The Moz 69 Posted June 12, 2006 I recently ( due to Caddy's tough schedule ) tried to trade him in a deal I was fairly certain the other owner would gobble up. I offered Caddy ( pittman ) , Galloway, and Kennison for Droughns ( Suggs and Norwood ) , A. Boldin, and C. Jackson ® - Keeper league. The other guy really doesn't even consider it - and this guy has nowhere near a stud RB on his team ( Droughns , A. Green, K. Barlow - his RBs ! ! ) and he is loaded with WR's. Anyway it's not just this guy I have tried with several poeple and its like Caddy even thouhg he is being drafted at the end of most frist rounds has lower 2nd round value ? In a large keeper league I would of though he would of had alot of value. What am I missing with this guy ? Is his tough schedule destroying his value that much even in keeper leagues ? Am I just over valuin gthe mad broham ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted June 12, 2006 I recently ( due to Caddy's tough schedule ) tried to trade him in a deal I was fairly certain the other owner would gobble up. I offered Caddy ( pittman ) , Galloway, and Kennison for Droughns ( Suggs and Norwood ) , A. Boldin, and C. Jackson ® - Keeper league. The other guy really doesn't even consider it - and this guy has nowhere near a stud RB on his team ( Droughns , A. Green, K. Barlow - his RBs ! ! ) and he is loaded with WR's. Anyway it's not just this guy I have tried with several poeple and its like Caddy even thouhg he is being drafted at the end of most frist rounds has lower 2nd round value ? In a large keeper league I would of though he would of had alot of value. What am I missing with this guy ? Is his tough schedule destroying his value that much even in keeper leagues ? Am I just over valuin gthe mad broham ? It sounds like he would rather have Boldin over Caddy on his keeper team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uby 0 Posted June 12, 2006 I recently ( due to Caddy's tough schedule ) tried to trade him in a deal I was fairly certain the other owner would gobble up. I offered Caddy ( pittman ) , Galloway, and Kennison for Droughns ( Suggs and Norwood ) , A. Boldin, and C. Jackson ® - Keeper league. The other guy really doesn't even consider it - and this guy has nowhere near a stud RB on his team ( Droughns , A. Green, K. Barlow - his RBs ! ! ) and he is loaded with WR's. Anyway it's not just this guy I have tried with several poeple and its like Caddy even thouhg he is being drafted at the end of most frist rounds has lower 2nd round value ? In a large keeper league I would of though he would of had alot of value. What am I missing with this guy ? Is his tough schedule destroying his value that much even in keeper leagues ? Am I just over valuin gthe mad broham ? kennison and galloway are nothing to hang your hat on especially in a keeper league!!! i wouldn't consider the deal either. edit: lol i thought that read C. Johnson. i would seriously consider that deal, but still Galloway and Kennison are close to done and Boldin will be top 10 for years to come. Caddy, while a great young RB, hasn't proven he's top10 yet in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 0 Posted June 12, 2006 Caddy has durability issues dating back to college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
famousb 11 Posted June 12, 2006 Caddy has durability issues dating back to college. IMO, these issues (that have slightly played true in the NFL already), plus what the soph's from last year (see KJ amd JJ) did, and his tough schedule and division (NO is the only weak team there) are all contributing factors. Granted, he could be a stud for a couple of years to come, and Gruden is in love with him and shows no signs of changing that, but it was only one year whereas Boldin has been putting up top 10 WR numbers - top 5 if he didn't get injured... Not saying I would rather have Boldin than a top-tier RB (I do have Boldin in one keeper league), but Caddy has qualified as a first round draft pick for exactly one year now. If he starts the season off strong and appears to repeat last years numbers or surpass, i bet you could offer that same trade mid-season and he may bite.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted June 12, 2006 It sounds like he would rather have Boldin over Caddy on his keeper team. Agree. Plus he may like the bright future of Chad Jackson. I believe he may feel like he's giving up too much because Cadillac was hurt for too long last year. That left a bad taste in a lot of FF'ers mouths, mine included. I sold him away for a really good wr last year down the stretch because I was so deep at RB and I didn't completely trust him. I'd gladly take Cadillac back this year, but at the end of the 1st round (10-12). This guy may hold out for something better. What if you tweaked the offer a little to include receiver depth a step below Chad Jackson? Maybe a veteran without the amount of upside that Jackson has? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollardposse 0 Posted June 12, 2006 There is a guy in my dynasty league that has been trying to dump caddy since the end of the season. The problem is this; He wants a first round talent in return. Caddy may never play a full 16 games. His injuries are never serious, but they are nagging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted June 12, 2006 Everyone I talk to has a lowered value of Caddy. I figured in a dynasty league he was golden and pretty much a top 5 - 8 dynasty talent . looks like I was a bit wrong on that. My only reason for trying to trade him is his schedule is like murders row and I am trying to win in 06 not 07 or 08. i actually really like him looking at his overall talent level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gottabesweet84 0 Posted June 12, 2006 Hope not, I was kind of happy when I found out they drafted Trueblood and I believe that OG from Oklahoma? Keep him healthy. Hopefully some passing plays come more his way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted June 12, 2006 Is this a PPR league? It is a viable trade... but I wouldn't do it either if I was him. I know that this is speculating, but I think that Droughns and Caddy will finish about the same this year, and if it is a PPR league... that Droughns may even have the better numbers. With Frye gaining more experience, getting a cagy vet in Joey J to go along wiht an upcoming Edwards, and possibly even Winslow contributing, along with (most importantly) the addition of Bentley... I see the Brown Offense being much improved. Bentley alone I would think would greatly help the Browns red zone woes from last year and significantly improve Droughns' value. And when it comes to Boldin vs Galloway... there really is no comparison as far as keeper value. Not saying it is not a decent trade, but I can easily see why he doesn't want to do it when you throw in Caddy's propensity for injuries where as Droughns has been very durable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyKing 4 Posted June 13, 2006 Moz - I think the opinions on Caddy are extreme - either very high or very low, unfortunately right now I don't think you can get full value for him. Me personally, I would not trade Boldin alone for those guys - Galloway just scares me plus you're giving me another Buccaneer. Droughns is pretty solid and comparable to Caddy - comparing Boldin to Galloway is no contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel City Blues 0 Posted June 13, 2006 Trading old players for youth in a dynasty league just isn't going to work. Caddy is the only young player you offered up, but Droughns isn't that far behind. Definitly not worth giving up Boldin and another up and comer at WR for a one tier upgrade at RB. Redraft league, I could see the trade going down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bubbameister 0 Posted June 13, 2006 I am a Caddy owner and was really high on his future last year. The belief was that Gruden was going to use him in all facets of the game. I never questioned his ability I questioned his role in the offense. Since I'm in a PPR league his value is not that high. Probably ranked somewhere betweeen RBs 10-15. Should Caddy have more than 45 receptions then his stock will rise. Bottom line: I think Pittman is a very good RB and will continue to affect Caddy's numbers. Prediction for Caddy: 1300 rushing yards, 35 receptions for 275 yards, and 11 total TDs. I don't question is durability...for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted June 13, 2006 I just don't think it was a great trade offer. as others have stated, the guy might like the upside of his other players more - obviously you do, or you wouldn't be trying to acquire them. So basically, he's as smart as you and wants to keep the guys that you want to get from him. How does that reflect poorly on Caddy's value? I'm laughing at your logic here - he didn't want to give you the better part of the trade, so that naturally means Caddy's value is dropping? I think Caddy's value is just as high as it's ever been. I think the whole injury thing is way overhyped - in Gruden's offense, Caddy is going to be a monster. He had an injury early and came on strong later. He's going to be a stud and I'd take him over SJax in a heartbeat who's getting a ton of hype/man-love around here and in other forums...funny how people aren't mentioning the fragility that SJax has shown as a factor in his value. 2006 should be a strong year for Caddy - good O-Line, good defense to keep them in games, an offensive minded coach like Gruden, who will utilize him for rushing, receiving and at the stripe. 1300/12 300/2 seems realistic to me, coming straight from the "projections pulled out of my butt" file. Prediction for Caddy: 1300 rushing yards, 35 receptions for 275 yards, and 11 total TDs. I don't question is durability...for now. whoa - didn't see your post as I was typing mine...our projections are close! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 467 Posted June 13, 2006 but still Galloway and Kennison are close to done What are you basing this on??, It is obviously not Galloways stats from last year 1. Steve Smith CAR 16 16 150 103 1,563 12 228.3 14.3 2. Santana Moss WAS 16 16 134 84 1,483 9 202.3 12.6 3. Larry Fitzgerald ARI 16 16 165 103 1,409 10 200.9 12.6 4. Chad Johnson CIN 16 16 155 97 1,432 9 197.2 12.3 5. Joey Galloway TB 16 16 152 83 1,287 10 188.7 11.8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
