Some suprising up and down movement at Wr

[remote controller 143]

I gotta wonder what caused the upward movement of Walker??

 

http://www.footballguys.com/rankings-updown.php?viewpos=wr

 

Wards upward movement makes sense as it ties back to Ben's good news.

 

Jackson jumped a whole point also, and Fitz and Boldin both fell back some.

 

Coles, Moulds, and Burelson (don't get that at all) all had big jumps.

 

Galloway and Rod Smith tumbled according to the rise of Clayton and Walker.

[swirvenirvin 25]

Its because they are startig to realize that he is top 10 potential. I tried defending him in the Walker A. Johnson trhead. I would be very happy with him as a #2. If him and Plummer get any kind of connection, I can see him being a steal

[Zackattack 0]

The guy tore his ACL? I don't really remember to many players who came back very strong thier first year after tearing thier ACL. They never seem to be at full speed also. That is one of Walkers strengths. Not to mention he had one rally good year that is it. I know he is big, was fast and is talented but I am not taking a chance on the guy as high as he is going. Good luck with him this year.

 

P.S Jake the Snake is throwing hiom the ball also. He is too inconsistent for me as a QB.

[Belushi 9]

The guy tore his ACL? I don't really remember to many players who came back very strong thier first year after tearing thier ACL. They never seem to be at full speed also. That is one of Walkers strengths. Not to mention he had one rally good year that is it. I know he is big, was fast and is talented but I am not taking a chance on the guy as high as he is going. Good luck with him this year.

 

P.S Jake the Snake is throwing hiom the ball also. He is too inconsistent for me as a QB.

 

 

Good points. Another is that this is a run-first team. Two RB's with 1,000 yards each last year. Shanny wants to run, and Rod Smith is still the main man there. He and Jake have been working together for years. Add in the ACL problem, and I don't see any way Walker is top 10, even if he's the #1 WR in Denver.

[Fantasyfreakny 0]

Good points. Another is that this is a run-first team. Two RB's with 1,000 yards each last year. Shanny wants to run, and Rod Smith is still the main man there. He and Jake have been working together for years. Add in the ACL problem, and I don't see any way Walker is top 10, even if he's the #1 WR in Denver.

 

 

walker also struggled with gb playbook when he first came into the league.He with strugle with denvers playbook,acl,run first team,do the math.How good were lelies numbers there?Im sure hes faster and knew the playbook and still had just avg numbers at best.

[Homerj24 0]

Also, WR's tend to struggle their 1st season with a new team. I think Walker is best left to someone else this season.

[Fumbleweed 543]

P.S Jake the Snake is throwing hiom the ball also. He is too inconsistent for me as a QB.

 

Aside from the AFC title game last year, Jake was pretty terrific in 2005.

[Zackattack 0]

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P.S Jake the Snake is throwing hiom the ball also. He is too inconsistent for me as a QB.

 

 

 

Aside from the AFC title game last year, Jake was pretty terrific in 2005.

 

 

I just don't think you can count on him to win big games. He is not the guy who leads the offense. I don't think I would call him brilliant by any means. I have watched him play and I am not impressed at all.

He is improving but Denver is ready to give up on him. They wouldn't have snagged Cutler if they were happy with Jake.

[tampa_fan_01 0]

Javon Walker could have a very suprising year. He does have the talent, and now he is on a good team that doesnt need him to be great. Rod Smith isnt getting younger, and Walker is far superior to Lelie. He should be good this year.

 

Burleson should have a good season for a #2 WR, because Seattle plays a solid West Coast system, and Burleson should succede in his role. He just isn't cut out to be a #1 guy.

 

Fitz and Bouldin falling is news to me. There should be no reason for this IMO, besides the fact that their on the same team...

 

Nice thread Remote

[zmanzzzz 1]

I gotta wonder what caused the upward movement of Walker??

 

http://www.footballguys.com/rankings-updown.php?viewpos=wr

 

Wards upward movement makes sense as it ties back to Ben's good news.

 

Jackson jumped a whole point also, and Fitz and Boldin both fell back some.

 

Coles, Moulds, and Burelson (don't get that at all) all had big jumps.

 

Galloway and Rod Smith tumbled according to the rise of Clayton and Walker.

 

who are you?

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

walker also struggled with gb playbook when he first came into the league.He with strugle with denvers playbook,acl,run first team,do the math.How good were lelies numbers there?Im sure hes faster and knew the playbook and still had just avg numbers at best.

 

News flash! Walker NEVAH learned the O in GB. It was apparent to the GB staff who gave up on him and just said, "go long left, right or strait." That's when he blossemed. When he did not have to think and was responsble only for catching it or stopping the pick. He is dumber than a straw brick. And coming off the ACL, no thanks. I will talk him up on draft day hoping to move him up on others sheets.

[Ras66not99 0]

News flash! Walker NEVAH learned the O in GB. It was apparent to the GB staff who gave up on him and just said, "go long left, right or strait." That's when he blossemed. When he did not have to think and was responsble only for catching it or stopping the pick. He is dumber than a straw brick. And coming off the ACL, no thanks. I will talk him up on draft day hoping to move him up on others sheets.

 

Well said....

[remote controller 143]

who are you?

The Rats A$$!

[mr.shitty 0]

two things to consider with walkers injury...

 

1. it was the first game of the season, so hes had more time to heal

2. hes a WR... wrs dont put the same amount of stress on their knees as RBs.

[Polamalu43 0]

Aside from the AFC title game last year, Jake was pretty terrific in 2005.

 

I agree. He was good for a team perspective, but a disappointment from a fantasy football perspective.

[burdsheet 0]

I gotta wonder what caused the upward movement of Walker??

 

http://www.footballguys.com/rankings-updown.php?viewpos=wr

 

Wards upward movement makes sense as it ties back to Ben's good news.

 

Jackson jumped a whole point also, and Fitz and Boldin both fell back some.

 

Coles, Moulds, and Burelson (don't get that at all) all had big jumps.

 

Galloway and Rod Smith tumbled according to the rise of Clayton and Walker.

 

They must think Walker is going to click w/ Plummer to justify moving him up. I don't think he'll get 8 TDs all season. I don't know.... first year on a new offense, coming off a major injury. It's possible, but the odds are definitely not in his favor.

[SmartassBoiler 0]

I see Javon Walker as a slightly more versatile Ashley Lelie. In his first year back from an injury, I'll let someone else risk him as a WR2. I think there's much better WR2s out there this year. Walker will not be at full speed, and even if he is I don't see him cracking the top 12 WRs this year on that offense. Yes, it's a good offense, but Shanahan has slowly made it a more conservative offense with the RBBC approach.

 

So, he better be 100% healthy and perform at 100% all season long in order to justify his ADP. In my opinion, there's no way he outperforms it.

[big D 0]

News flash! Walker NEVAH learned the O in GB. It was apparent to the GB staff who gave up on him and just said, "go long left, right or strait." That's when he blossemed. When he did not have to think and was responsble only for catching it or stopping the pick. He is dumber than a straw brick. And coming off the ACL, no thanks. I will talk him up on draft day hoping to move him up on others sheets.

 

Plummer-Walker should be a match made in heaven given that they're both dumb as stumps. Go long, go left, go right should work well!

[Cowboy918 0]

They must think Walker is going to click w/ Plummer to justify moving him up. I don't think he'll get 8 TDs all season. I don't know.... first year on a new offense, coming off a major injury. It's possible, but the odds are definitely not in his favor.

The guy is on a new team which is the real question mark IMO and to me his talent(vs ACL) makes him worth the risk as solid #2. Jake may not be the best fantasy qb but he is good enough to make walker a star.

[fantasytool 0]

I would rather draft Rod Smith 2-3 rounds later than draft Javon Walker too early. This is kind of like last year when Lelie was drafted before Rod Smith. People just want to bury Rod Smith, saying he is too old, that it is time for him to become the #2 WR, etc. All I know is that, in the past, Plummer has looked to Rod Smith. I would expect that to continue this year. Javon Walker should help out Rod Smith, now defenders might actually have to pay attention to the 2nd WR in Denver. It just seems much better value to go for Rod Smith instead of Walker.

[remote controller 143]

I would rather draft Rod Smith 2-3 rounds later than draft Javon Walker too early. This is kind of like last year when Lelie was drafted before Rod Smith. People just want to bury Rod Smith, saying he is too old, that it is time for him to become the #2 WR, etc. All I know is that, in the past, Plummer has looked to Rod Smith. I would expect that to continue this year. Javon Walker should help out Rod Smith, now defenders might actually have to pay attention to the 2nd WR in Denver. It just seems much better value to go for Rod Smith instead of Walker.

This says it all.

[Belushi 9]

I would rather draft Rod Smith 2-3 rounds later than draft Javon Walker too early. This is kind of like last year when Lelie was drafted before Rod Smith. People just want to bury Rod Smith, saying he is too old, that it is time for him to become the #2 WR, etc. All I know is that, in the past, Plummer has looked to Rod Smith. I would expect that to continue this year. Javon Walker should help out Rod Smith, now defenders might actually have to pay attention to the 2nd WR in Denver. It just seems much better value to go for Rod Smith instead of Walker.

 

Couldn't agree more. Did the same thing last night in a draft. Instead of depending on Walker as my #2 WR, I waited and got Rod Smith as my #3 WR. He'll have at least as good numbers as Walker this year.

[9-Route 0]

the comment about rod smith's value is very pertinent here.

 

plummer is a big factor here as well.

 

i dont like denver wrs right now because of plummer. true, as fumble pointed out, jake enjoyed a very pleasing statistical season by "reality football" standards last yr. he threw fewer picks than his norm, and managed games well---leading to lots of victories; however, fantasy football-wise, he was sub-par. he didnt rack up huge yds, and threw under 20tds (he has only reached 20tds 1 time in his career---a campaign 2 yrs ago when he threw 20ints!!) i see the bronco think-tank liking last yr's strategy---keep it simple for him and dont allow him chances to make big mistakes and blow games. that said, it is very unlikely that even a fully healthy walker would post stats comparable to his career yr in gb (1380-12). i think rod will continue to be the chain mover, while javon becomes what they wanted lelie to be---a deep threat with intermediate range reliability as well. wrs in denver just wont post stats worthy of top15 ranks.

[Fumbleweed 543]

I agree. He was good for a team perspective, but a disappointment from a fantasy football perspective.

 

He finished as the 11th best QB for 2005.....that's about what was expected of him EXACTLY.

 

I wouldn't say he was a disappointment at all fantasy-wise.....just that he didn't exceed expectations.

[scomo 0]

Go back and look at the stats. R. Smith was a top 15 WR last year. I drafted him as my 3rd WR in the 6th round. He's as safe and secure as you can get. I will be looking for him again this year and hope everyone else believes the hype surronding JaBroke Walker.

[Zap 0]

He finished as the 11th best QB for 2005.....that's about what was expected of him EXACTLY.

 

I wouldn't say he was a disappointment at all fantasy-wise.....just that he didn't exceed expectations.

 

In my league here, which penalizes -3 for picks (thank you t.j), Plummer ended the season as QB6.

[Fumbleweed 543]

In my league here, which penalizes -3 for picks (thank you t.j), Plummer ended the season as QB6.

 

Furthers my point.......he wasn't really a disappointment. Kind of like Kerry Collins wasn't a huge fantasy disappointment either unless you thought he was top 2 material. When guys finish right where they were projected to be by most people, they aren't true "disappointments". They met expectations.

[FBIGUY 0]

I had Lelie early in the year last year....so I watched Jake try to throw the deep ball and this is what I see!!!!!!!

 

THE GUY HAS NO TOUCH....he must have missed an open DEEP Lelie 8-10 times......i'm telling you Jake is not the guy for Walker this year....Cutler could be great in a couple years.

 

Bottom line....stay away from Walker.

[Phurfur 70]

I would rather draft Rod Smith 2-3 rounds later than draft Javon Walker too early. This is kind of like last year when Lelie was drafted before Rod Smith. People just want to bury Rod Smith, saying he is too old, that it is time for him to become the #2 WR, etc. All I know is that, in the past, Plummer has looked to Rod Smith. I would expect that to continue this year. Javon Walker should help out Rod Smith, now defenders might actually have to pay attention to the 2nd WR in Denver. It just seems much better value to go for Rod Smith instead of Walker.

 

This is my stratagy too.