Core Dillon

[Cowboy918 0]

I know this guy has had a butt load of rush attempts and he is 31 but with the Pats WR looking as bad as they ever have(more so than usual) will they lean more on Corey. The guy still has the ability to put up top 5 numbers but he is ranked so far down i don't get it. I look for a great year from him this year somewhere in the range of 1400/13

[49ER MAN 0]

I know this guy has had a butt load of rush attempts and he is 31 but with the Pats WR looking as bad as they ever have(more so than usual) will they lean more on Corey. The guy still has the ability to put up top 5 numbers but he is ranked so far down i don't get it. I look for a great year from him this year somewhere in the range of 1400/13

 

It's possible although you have to wonder how much time Maroney will see the field. I could see 1200 yards and 12 TD's but any more than that might be a bit much considering Dillon is getting up in age and coming off an injury last season.

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

Maroney and Faulk will see time which will make all of them worthless fantasy wise.

[Vikings4ever 550]

If he can stay heatlhy, I'd expect him to get about the same numbers as last year, 900-1,000 combined yards, and 10-14 TDs. Instead of losing carries to any injury, he'll lose them to Maroney.

[TUM301 10]

If he can stay heatlhy, I'd expect him to get about the same numbers as last year, 900-1,000 combined yards, and 10-14 TDs. Instead of losing carries to any injury, he'll lose them to Maroney.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

It's possible although you have to wonder how much time Maroney will see the field. I could see 1200 yards and 12 TD's but any more than that might be a bit much considering Dillon is getting up in age and coming off an injury last season.

 

I'll take that all day and twice on Sunday for a guy I can get in the 4th round of a 12 teamer (ADP 4.04). Those are top 10 numbers for a RB you can get cheap.....huge value. I'm hoping to get Dillon on a team or 2 this year with Maroney coming a few rounds later.

[famousb 11]

If he can stay heatlhy, I'd expect him to get about the same numbers as last year, 900-1,000 combined yards, and 10-14 TDs. Instead of losing carries to any injury, he'll lose them to Maroney.

 

I'd actually WANT CD to lose carries to Maroney/Faulk this year. Sure it may sound stupid on the surface, but look at it like this. CD will be staying fresher, playing in more games, and have less likelihood of getting injured. Plus, and most importantly, he'll be fresher when he's getting the carries where it counts - in the red zone.

Seriously, if you were BB, who would you be giving the rock to inside the 20? Kevin "I average just over TDs a year" Faulk, a rookie RB, or Corey "I've scored 13 TDs for you each of the last two years" Dillon?

 

I highly doubt his total carries for the year would drop below last season (209) considering he only played in 12 games, and i honestly don't see Faulk and Maroney stealing that many carries unless CD gets hurt. So just say 210 carries minimum this year. Well, he should also be fresher for those carries so his YPC should go up some too. Let's just bump it from 3.5 to 4.0 - that's a modest increase that's still below his career avg. That comes out to 840 yds, and i'm setting that at a MINIMUM.

If you put in his career avgs (even w/ years he played less than 16 games). He avgs 269 carries per year, and 4.3 ypc. - that's 1157 yds. Which is pretty nice for an avg. And there were 4 years (including two seasons ago) where he had over 300 carries.

 

So the rushing carries and yardage play out to decent #2 numbers, but i really believe his TD totals will only go up this year due to being fresher, and hopefully getting more opportunities in redzone...

[Belushi 9]

I think people are really missing out on Dillon this year. I picked him up early in the 4th round in a mock draft the other night as my #2 RB to go with Alexander, Harrison, and Boldin. He's going to get the goal-line carries, and I expect most of the carries during the season as well. I don't think the rook has that big of an impact this year. Dillon will have a chip on his shoulder now that everyone's saying he's washed up and his replacement has been drafted. Remember the year he first came to the Pats?

[Super Cubs 154]

I think Dillon is the value pick in this years draft.

[DBZFan2K 0]

Brady's receiving arsenal isn't that great, so I think they will at least try to re-establish the running game. If not, Plan B would be for Brady to throw screens and dink passes to make up for it. Dillon is worth a try as a RB2 but make sure you have a solid RB3 as a safety net.

[zmanzzzz 1]

i think they will rest dillon during the season, with the intention of riding him in the playoffs. just like they did last year.

[Raider 84 29]

I think Dillon is the value pick in this years draft.

 

[MudDawgs4Life 6]

Not that high on Dillon this year, not surprisingly, I am that high on Maroney. If anybody watched Corey Dillon last year, he just looked awful. He looked slow. Lacked any explosion. He had 209 carries last season, do you know how many went for over 20 yards? TWO! that's it. Yeah, he scored a lot of short TDs, every patriots RB does, doesn't mean i want him as my #2.

 

As for the tom brady comments, those are just wrong. what, because he lost David Givens and a bunch of journeymen the passing game is going to suck? please. tom brady spreads the ball around arguably more than any QB in the NFL, it's very common to see complete passes to 8, 9, even 10 guys in the same game. He puts WRs on the map, not the other way around. i don't expect this to change at all this year.

 

As a pats fan, i'm over dillion, i'm ready for the future. simply put, maroney looks explosive and hungry. from a fantasy standpoint, i would avoid dillon in the early rounds (4 might be good value though, but i haven't heard of him going that late until now), and snatch up maroney and just wait - the possibility for a huge 2nd half is there. maroney probably warrants a 6th round draft pick in savvy, runnning-back-happy leagues.

[famousb 11]

simply put, maroney looks explosive and hungry.

you've seen him play in the NFL already?

[bigtuna 0]

I expect to see Maroney in as the starter by seasons end.

 

He will play little at first, as protection concerns will keep him on the pine.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I don't see the Pats running any more than they did last year. They had some injuries at WR and RB all season, so you can't go by last year's numbers. The Pats will probably be running around 27-28 times a game this year.

 

You have Dillon, Maroney and Faulk (3rd down) each seeing time out there. Based upon that, I would think that you are looking at a breakdown similar to this:

 

Dillon: 16 carries

Maroney: 7 carries

Faulk: 4 carries

 

One thing to consider when ranking Dillon is that he was a TD machine given the number of touches and games that he played. There were a couple of games where he had multiple TD's without putting up anything on yards.

 

So, in a TD heavy league, I think that you will see Dillon in there for the Pats (Faulk is a fumbler and Maroney is a rook). However, you have to determine in preseason whether the Pats will be going to a more passing oriented attack inside the 5 with bigger receivers like Caldwell or Jackson and the TE's .

 

Basically, I would think that you can expect 1050 yards and 10-12 TD's from Dillon this season. If that is ok with your scoring for an RB2, then go for it.

[Savage Beast 1]

you've seen him play in the NFL already?

 

No he hasn't, and he may not. Maroney has to sign his contract first, and he is already having agent problems. The only threat to Dillon's carries this season are if he is injured. Dillon is not in a competition with an unsigned rookie for playing time this season.

[Boston 0]

*I fully expect the Pats to run more this year. Last year their D got devastated with injuries for a good period of time. Due to that they were in a position they hadn't been in too much recently...getting lit up and playing catch up. With the D stabilized the need to throw won't be as dramatic. Don't get me wrong they will throw a lot but they will be much more balanced than 05.

 

*Another reason they didn't run as much last year...when your top three RBs are injured and you're starting a street free agent that doesn't bode very well for the ground game.

 

*A reason why the run game will be far more effective in 06...the O line has a great opportunity to be vastly improved over last year's MASH unit. With a healthy Light, Kazcur, Mankins and Koppen (hopefully) as well as Kazcur and Mankins being more experienced (as well as some added depth) the O line should go back to the very effecient and effective unit it has been in the past. This is probably the most underrated area of strength for the Pats going into 2006.

 

*While Givens will definetly be missed the Pats recieving core as a whole has the definite potential to be better in 06 than 05. Last year the Pats had stiffs like Dwight, Davis and Bethel at WR. Givens also missed three games and Troy missed time as well. At TE Fauria was a shell of what he was. Faulk was injured for a good chunk of time as well and he's a big contributor in that area as well. This year Watson has the potential to go the next level, Thomas (I'm very high on him), Mills and CJax are around and intriguing (they should at least be better than who they are replacing) and Faulk is healthy. As for Caldwell the early reports have been positive (aren't they always this time of year) but he's still an unknown quantity at this point. Also, the word is the Pats have been very pleasantly surprised by Maroney's hands. The bottomline is the Pats passing game will be very effective and if the O line gives Brady more time than last year it won't matter who he's passing to because he'll get it to them.

 

*As for Dillon I truly don't know what to make of him. Quite simply, he sucked last year. Even before the injuries mounted for him he looked bad. He had zero explosion and was going down easily and didn't run with the violence of the year before. While all reports say he's been on a mission this offseason I still need to see him play like 04 to believe it. I could see his numbers being anywhere between 600-1,200 yards. There's that big a swing. Unfortunately you're really not going to know what Corey Dillon is showing up this year until the regular season begins.

 

*IMO Maroney has a chance to be better than Dillon beginning this year. I'm hearing BB absolutely loves him and has been very impressed with him so far. The fact that his hands look good mean he'll be a big factor even if Dillon regains his 04 form. I think this kid is going to bring a serious jump to the Pats running game and will contribute more and more as the year goes on. BB plays his best players and if Dillon has indeed hit the wall I don't think he'll hesitate for one minute to lean on Maroney if he proves to BB he deserves it.

 

As a Pats fan I'd love to see Dillon regain his form. A 1-2 punch of Maroney and Dillon with Faulk and Pass around as change of pace backs would be a loaded backfield. Yet, realistically Dillon is still an unknown quantity and Maroney is as well as he's still a rookie. My guess is Dillon puts up good TD numbers but Maroney will be a major factor as a combo of Maroney's young legs and Dillon being kept fresh is the Pats best bet for ground game success. Add that to a healthy O line and I fully expect the Pats to be light years more effective on the ground than last year's debacle.

[Money Ball 0]

I'd actually WANT CD to lose carries to Maroney/Faulk this year. Sure it may sound stupid on the surface, but look at it like this. CD will be staying fresher, playing in more games, and have less likelihood of getting injured. Plus, and most importantly, he'll be fresher when he's getting the carries where it counts - in the red zone.

Seriously, if you were BB, who would you be giving the rock to inside the 20? Kevin "I average just over TDs a year" Faulk, a rookie RB, or Corey "I've scored 13 TDs for you each of the last two years" Dillon?

 

I highly doubt his total carries for the year would drop below last season (209) considering he only played in 12 games, and i honestly don't see Faulk and Maroney stealing that many carries unless CD gets hurt. So just say 210 carries minimum this year. Well, he should also be fresher for those carries so his YPC should go up some too. Let's just bump it from 3.5 to 4.0 - that's a modest increase that's still below his career avg. That comes out to 840 yds, and i'm setting that at a MINIMUM.

If you put in his career avgs (even w/ years he played less than 16 games). He avgs 269 carries per year, and 4.3 ypc. - that's 1157 yds. Which is pretty nice for an avg. And there were 4 years (including two seasons ago) where he had over 300 carries.

 

So the rushing carries and yardage play out to decent #2 numbers, but i really believe his TD totals will only go up this year due to being fresher, and hopefully getting more opportunities in redzone...

 

^^^One of the best posts this year on RBs. Just put so eloquently. You go with experience here, I'm ready to see him with that hunger again, and that chip on his shoulder, yes. Of having a rookie mentioned in the RBBC possibility. Atleast one more great year I expect from Corey Dillon.

 

 

I think people are really missing out on Dillon this year. I picked him up early in the 4th round in a mock draft the other night as my #2 RB to go with Alexander, Harrison, and Boldin. He's going to get the goal-line carries, and I expect most of the carries during the season as well. I don't think the rook has that big of an impact this year. Dillon will have a chip on his shoulder now that everyone's saying he's washed up and his replacement has been drafted. Remember the year he first came to the Pats?

 

 

I was thinking after watching the Four letter network the other day:Corey Dillon is gonna help me win this year many times. So, I have to get him while everyone's sleeping on a man that is gonna have a year like two seasons ago when he first came to the Pats. Like you, I think Mahoney will be on the outside looking in, and will have to wait for his turn to get any significant amount of carries. Thanks for the insight.

*MAKES MENTAL NOTE*: Draft Corey Dillon as Number 2 RB.

[texasmouth 1]

^^^One of the best posts this year on RBs. Just put so eloquently. You go with experience here, I'm ready to see him with that hunger again, and that chip on his shoulder, yes. Of having a rookie mentioned in the RBBC possibility. Atleast one more great year I expect from Corey Dillon.

I was thinking after watching the Four letter network the other day:Corey Dillon is gonna help me win this year many times. So, I have to get him while everyone's sleeping on a man that is gonna have a year like two seasons ago when he first came to the Pats. Like you, I think Mahoney will be on the outside looking in, and will have to wait for his turn to get any significant amount of carries. Thanks for the insight.

*MAKES MENTAL NOTE*: Draft Corey Dillon as Number 2 RB.

Wont touch Dillon without Maroney. Just me I guess. Dillon is on the downhill slide. Started last year, will continue this year. That guy has a lot of miles on him.

[taa455 0]

Be careful with Dillon and, even more so, Belichick.

 

I had Dillon last year and there were at least 3 or 4 games when we had NO CLUE if the guy was going to play. It was always the "game-time decision" crap. I don't want that headache again. If you want Dillon as a #3, good idea. Otherwise stay away, IMO.

[Boston 0]

Be careful with Dillon and, even more so, Belichick.

 

I had Dillon last year and there were at least 3 or 4 games when we had NO CLUE if the guy was going to play. It was always the "game-time decision" crap. I don't want that headache again.

 

...and that was without a viable backup. With Maroney in the fold and a healthy Pass and Faulk it will be much easier to rest Dillon and make sure he's there for the whole season.

[zmanzzzz 1]

i just drafted dillon as my #2rb at 4.10 and am happy. reading this thread makes me want to pick up maroney at some point. it is a homer league so i can prolly wait to the end of the draft or even pick him up when i have someone to drop.

 

the preseason may reveal things.

[mitch moore 0]

Keeper league(0-4) start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1Flex(RB/WR/TE), 1TE ,1K, 1D/ST

Rounds 1-4, kept players filled in and/or draft from the pool if you kept less than Max. 4.

No Rookies may be drafted til Round 5

 

Traded Moss for Dillon and 6.1

 

High risk/high reward IMO, but I'm not sold on Moss's health or motivation and I'm definently not high on Aaron Brooks.

 

Also with my keepers being Jordan, Caddillac and Gates, I would have had 3 players on bye week 3 had I kept Moss.

 

In this league being able to start 3 RBs is huge.

 

All I hope for is a year close to what's he's averaged with the Pats, anything else would be a bonus.

[famousb 11]

Keeper league(0-4) start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1Flex(RB/WR/TE), 1TE ,1K, 1D/ST

Rounds 1-4, kept players filled in and/or draft from the pool if you kept less than Max. 4.

No Rookies may be drafted til Round 5

 

Traded Moss for Dillon and 6.1

 

High risk/high reward IMO, but I'm not sold on Moss's health or motivation and I'm definently not high on Aaron Brooks.

 

Also with my keepers being Jordan, Caddillac and Gates, I would have had 3 players on bye week 3 had I kept Moss.

 

In this league being able to start 3 RBs is huge.

 

All I hope for is a year close to what's he's averaged with the Pats, anything else would be a bonus.

 

Horrible trade IMHO... at best, you'll wind up 2nd in your division after this trade... well, even before the trade you would've been lucky to finish second, so you're probably about even...

actually, i think it was a good trade on your part. There'll be a rush of RBs in the first rd(s), and you don't want to get shut out of having 3 in this league...

[LIVING ICON 0]

 

Horrible trade IMHO... at best, you'll wind up 2nd in your division after this trade... well, even before the trade you would've been lucky to finish second, so you're probably about even...

actually, i think it was a good trade on your part. There'll be a rush of RBs in the first rd(s), and you don't want to get shut out of having 3 in this league...

 

 

Good trade for both owners. Dillon should produce solid numbers exspecilly since he is your number 3. What idd the other guy's keepers look like for him to be able to trade a back like dillon that close to the draft.

[mitch moore 0]

He's gonna have, LT, Shaun Alexander, Chad Johnson and Moss now.

Don't ask, yeah he bent over a lot of owners over the past three year(champ all three).

From Canada no less(see sig below).

Goooo USA

[football is life 0]

I like Dillon this year. Shhhhh! I want his ADP to stay nice and low!!!

[LIVING ICON 0]

He's gonna have, LT, Shaun Alexander, Chad Johnson and Moss now.

Don't ask, yeah he bent over a lot of owners over the past three year(champ all three).

From Canada no less(see sig below).

Goooo USA

 

 

Wow, those are pretty impresive. One thing though

no wonder hes the reigning champion of Naffl