TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0 Posted August 5, 2006 Willis Mcgahee Buffalo stinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eo11 0 Posted August 5, 2006 Alexander's on the madden cover for 07, if you're superstitious... only the first preduction run then the special Hall of Fame edition with Big John on it comes out Alexander is pissed but hell he should be happy it still gets paid and he might not go down for the season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted August 5, 2006 IMO, it will be Westbrook. He's being targeted as a top 14 pick in non-PPR leagues, and a top 10 pick in PPR leagues. Looking at his history, he's been fragile, and despite reports of being used more and establishing a better ground attack, I am unconvinces that the Eagles are capable of doing it, or that Westy is capable of staying healthy with an increased workload. Also looking at his numbers, even if he's 10% better than he was last year, he's still only going to be a top 15 producer, and a major injury risk at that - not what I want as my first round pick. Too risky and could bury a lot of teams this year. Plus he'll have someone in as a GL vulture, which still further reduces his value. I think he's being way overhyped this year, and he's a RB2 at best. Westy is stud!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted August 5, 2006 Westy is stud!!! I agree. But I don't think he;ll live up to expectations or draft value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football is life 0 Posted August 5, 2006 Easy: Edgerin James. The Indy oline was AND is stellar, and the Zona line is horrible. I don't care how motivated you are, if you have 7 guys running at you full speed at the snap of the ball virtually unblocked... you are going to get stuffed. Again, and again, and again... plus Edge is no spring chicken with surgically repaired knee... can't afford to take too many of those big hits. Last, he is going to a downgraded offense. While Arizona has some talent, they are no Indy and Warner is no Manning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted August 5, 2006 TO's done it before and he'll do it again. Besides he is the only player I'd like to see break a leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junkie 0 Posted August 5, 2006 The most fumble prone RBs are going to fumble maybe 5 or 6 times a year. Even the best QB will throw double digit picks, and it's not unheard of to get in the 20s. It doesn't really come close to evening out, but whatever works for you. QBs have very little value in that system, though. I think if you're going to give -2 for an int, you should give 6 pts for a TD pass if you want to have the QB position to mean something. This is what I've been arguing in one of my leagues. In that league QBs get 4 pts per TD and -2 pts per int. It devalues QBs over the course of the season, but on a game-by-game basis the pts from your QB can fluctuate too much. It just so happens that I had Favre in that league and he cost me a few games all by himself, but in another league I'm in he was a top 8 QB. I'm definately in favor of -1 pt per int. Sorry to hijack the thread above, but answering the origional question, Steve Smith will disappoint, and I'm a Carolina homer. I'm not sure if he will ruin a team, but he won't have the #s he had last year. Look for slightly better than Terry Glenn type stats from last year, where he'll dominate one week, and disappear the next. I like Tiki, TO, Jordan, and Westbrook, but Edge I won't pick where he is being picked now. Maybe I'll get burned...who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted August 5, 2006 This is what I've been arguing in one of my leagues. In that league QBs get 4 pts per TD and -2 pts per int. It devalues QBs over the course of the season, but on a game-by-game basis the pts from your QB can fluctuate too much. It just so happens that I had Favre in that league and he cost me a few games all by himself, but in another league I'm in he was a top 8 QB. I'm definately in favor of -1 pt per int. Sorry to hijack the thread above, but answering the origional question, Steve Smith will disappoint, and I'm a Carolina homer. I'm not sure if he will ruin a team, but he won't have the #s he had last year. Look for slightly better than Terry Glenn type stats from last year, where he'll dominate one week, and disappear the next. I like Tiki, TO, Jordan, and Westbrook, but Edge I won't pick where he is being picked now. Maybe I'll get burned...who knows? In a successful attempt to balance out the positions so QB was valuable, while maintaining continuity on turnovers (we felt that as WR/RB is -2 for a fumble, an int should't be worth less) our league changed TDs to 6 pts, and kept Ints at -2. We added passing bonuses (+5 at 300 and +5 at 400) and receiving bonuses (+5 for a 100+ day). Altogether, the scoring is pretty fair. A QB can blow up on a good day or kill you on a bad day, which if you think about it is pretty similar to the NFL. 140 yds (7) 0 TDs , 3 ints(-6) = 1 point. Meanwhile 320 yds (21+5 bonus), 3 TDs (18), 1 Int (-2) = 37 points. RBs are still king, but QBs are a huge asset in this format. 6 pt TDs are a must for -2 Ints. Otherwise it's too weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junkie 0 Posted August 6, 2006 In a successful attempt to balance out the positions so QB was valuable, while maintaining continuity on turnovers (we felt that as WR/RB is -2 for a fumble, an int should't be worth less) our league changed TDs to 6 pts, and kept Ints at -2. We added passing bonuses (+5 at 300 and +5 at 400) and receiving bonuses (+5 for a 100+ day). Altogether, the scoring is pretty fair. A QB can blow up on a good day or kill you on a bad day, which if you think about it is pretty similar to the NFL. 140 yds (7) 0 TDs , 3 ints(-6) = 1 point. Meanwhile 320 yds (21+5 bonus), 3 TDs (18), 1 Int (-2) = 37 points. RBs are still king, but QBs are a huge asset in this format. 6 pt TDs are a must for -2 Ints. Otherwise it's too weak. That scoring system sounds fine, but we don't get yardage bonuses until 400 yds (5 pts), and passing TDs are only 4 pts. I've been lobbying for a change for 3 years now, but everyone seems too scared to change anything. Games are won or lost in that league by QB play alone most times. I hate having a guy like Warner throwing for 350 yds 1 TD and 2 INTs (17 pts), and losing to someone starting a guy like Brees who throws for 200 yds, 2 TDs and 0 INTs (18 pts). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uby 0 Posted August 6, 2006 Easy: Edgerin James. The Indy oline was AND is stellar, and the Zona line is horrible. I don't care how motivated you are, if you have 7 guys running at you full speed at the snap of the ball virtually unblocked... you are going to get stuffed. Again, and again, and again... plus Edge is no spring chicken with surgically repaired knee... can't afford to take too many of those big hits. Last, he is going to a downgraded offense. While Arizona has some talent, they are no Indy and Warner is no Manning. yup. Warner has won the Super Bowl. as for biggest flops of the year, in no order: RBs -Tiki Barber -Dominic Davis -Lamont Jordan -Ronnie Brown WRs -Randy Moss -Roy Williams -Plaxico Burress -Javon Walker QBs -Eli Manning -Brett Favre -Jake Plummer -Steve McNair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted August 6, 2006 If you mean RUIN a team, it has to be a top 5 pick. Of those 5, in order of season tanking likelihood, Tiki, Alexader, LT, Portis, LJ. If any one of these guys gets hurt early, or has seriously dimished effectiveness do to workload or other considerations, there is no way a redraft team can win. I would say the #6 pick is the diciest. Edge, Steven Jackson, Ronnie Brown are the usual suspects, and all have issues. Of course the poor schmuck that uses the #5 pick for Peyton Manning is doomed anyway. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frankie Valiant 0 Posted August 6, 2006 this is a good question I have to go with Edge as well, not because of the player! but because of the team he is going to play for.... considering that Arizona has not had much of a running for quite sometime now, makes me believe that Edge might not put up the type of numbers that you would expect from a player that is being projected to be drafted somewhere around the 5th overall pick..... I just don't see Arizona all of a sudden getting a solid running game right away, but I think that getting Edge over there is a good start....(mabey next year).......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football is life 0 Posted August 6, 2006 TO's done it before and he'll do it again. Besides he is the only player I'd like to see break a leg. agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffdomino 0 Posted August 6, 2006 The thing with TO is that Bledsoe and Parcells have less "pride" than Reid and McNabb. Does any one remember TO having a bad game when he played last year? Parcells would work around the additude instead of catering to the QBs prissiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Naked 0 Posted August 6, 2006 TO's done it before and he'll do it again. Besides he is the only player I'd like to see break a leg. I don't think you'll see another player more motivated to produce on the field this year than TO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onejayhawk 3 Posted August 6, 2006 The thing with TO is that Bledsoe and Parcells have less "pride" than Reid and McNabb. Does any one remember TO having a bad game when he played last year? Parcells would work around the additude instead of catering to the QBs prissiness. Parcells has said often about the situation with Bledsoe and TO, that if TO shoots his mouth, it isnt Bledsoe's job to deal with, its the Head Coach's job. TO will be solid unless injured, this year. J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 6, 2006 deuce mccalister....the guy is a bum. a frickin bum. This is my BIGTIME sleeper, i think he could be top 5 at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Naked 0 Posted August 6, 2006 as for biggest flops of the year, in no order:RBs -Ronnie Brown First time I have seen anyone say this. I'm curious as to your reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffdomino 0 Posted August 6, 2006 First time I have seen anyone say this. I'm curious as to your reasoning. I think Brown has one of the greatest risk/rewards variable this year but I think everyone, worth their salt, knows this so I do not think you can consider him a flop if he does not succeed. Personally, I think the only way this guy will not do good is if the injury bug hits him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dynastybaby 0 Posted August 6, 2006 I would have to say the guy known as listen2me23 will ruin plenty of teams this year..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites