Bill Clinton is a little defensive about Bin laden.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

This clown did nothing while in office, and now he is trying to re-write history by claiming he "tried" to get Bin laden. Too bad all evidence says otherwise.

 

Vid of Slick losing it:

 

 

Where else have I seen him jab that figure at the camera like that? Oh yeah, here:

 

 

In poker we call that a "tell".......I guess he always does that when he is lying through his teeth.

 

[GettnHuge 2]

why not post his own words where he pleaded with the saudis to take him...then when asked, turns around

and says bin laden was never offered to us. But...how do you ask the saudis to take him off our hands if

we never had or were never offered him? Then you have the: we couldn't hold him he didn't commit crimes

against the USA crap from him...yet when asked about this turns around again and still says he was never

offered to us.

 

why not just admit the truth, the people who hate him always will the people who like him always will

[Badmojo1006 0]

This clown did nothing while in office, and now he is trying to re-write history by claiming he "tried" to get Bin laden. Too bad all evidence says otherwise.

 

Rewrite History

 

You Republicans didn't give a sh*t about Bin Laden back in the 90's, now all of a sudden, at election time, they are pushing that tired old stick that Clinton was the bad guy...

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Rewrite History

 

You Republicans didn't give a sh*t about Bin Laden back in the 90's, now all of a sudden, at election time, they are pushing that tired old stick that Clinton was the bad guy...

 

 

Link to me not wanting bin Laden held responsible for the multiple Al Queda attacks against the U.S. during the '90's?

 

Um, and Clinton is putting himself front and center just before election time whining about how he is going down in history as a do-nothing President when it comes to terrorism.

[Ravens 03 0]

Just like he tried:

 

- to not stick that cigar in Ms. Lewinski's cooter.

- to not rape Juanita Broderick [?]

- to not sexually molest Katleen Wiley.

- to remain faithful to Hillary.

- to 'tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth'.

 

 

What a freaking joke this ###### is.

And the libs love him today and forever!

 

Sick!

[IAMWood 6]

Where is OBL?

[Badmojo1006 0]

Bill Clinton did not get Osama Bin Laden

 

Neither did Bush

 

And Bush didn't seem to care before 9/11 that "Bin Laden determined to strike in the US" as he dismissed it with a "All Right you covered your a$$ now..."

 

Or he didn't seem to care about Osama Bin Laden after 9/11 And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

[Cdub100 3,909]

It's been 1831 days since Bush said he'd catch Osama bin Laden 'Dead or Alive!'

 

"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you." - George W. Bush

[Recliner Pilot 61]

LOL at Cdub marking the wall every day...............1831 huh?

 

Lessee, Bin Laden has been hiding in caves since 9/11. Clinton was offered Bin Laden delivered to him but turned the offer down.

 

Mebbe if Clinton hadn't been such a poosay 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

 

Advantage: Bush.

 

Oh, and Cdub get a life.

[Badmojo1006 0]

 

i've given up arguing with you RP...You have fallen into the fartfish/gocolts area

 

You just do not make any sense and don't listen to any reasoning

[Cdub100 3,909]

LOL at Cdub marking the wall every day...............1831 huh?

 

Lessee, Bin Laden has been hiding in caves since 9/11. Clinton was offered Bin Laden delivered to him but turned the offer down.

 

Mebbe if Clinton hadn't been such a poosay 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

 

Advantage: Bush.

 

Oh, and Cdub get a life.

 

How many times does it need to be pointed out to you Bin laden was NOT offered to Clinton. Go ahead and link the Hannity trascript and I will post Clintons entire speech in NY

 

Get a life? Sorry, but of the many broken promises this one hurts the most. The man responsible for all of this is still alive and free and until he is brought to justice he will continue to be a ralling symbol for all the sicko's around the world.

 

People like you make me No war for monica... remember that? You pussies wouldn't support it.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Go ahead and link the Hannity trascript and I will post Clintons entire speech in NY

 

Tear your ass. Post it.

 

I'm waiting.

[Cdub100 3,909]

Tear your ass. Post it.

 

I'm waiting.

 

Sigh...

 

"...former national security advisor Sandy Berger, who insisted in sworn testimony before Congress in Sept. 2002 that there was never any offer from Sudanese officials to turn over bin Laden to the U.S."

 

Why am I wasting my time with you? Everything is Clinton/Kerrys fault, great.

 

Mean while under Bush's watch we have:

 

The worst terrorist attack in american History

The man you master mind the thing is, STILL RUNNING FREE 5 FOCKING YEARS LATER

Started a war that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 even though he said it did

and on and on and on.

 

...I guess all these are Clinton's and those damn lib's fault too.

 

No war for Monica. No war for Monica. Wag the dog. Wag the dog. OMG he got a bj and lied about it. Heaven forbid lets spend millions of dollars to prove he got a bj.

[Ravens 03 0]

"...former national security advisor Sandy Berger, who insisted in sworn testimony before Congress in Sept. 2002 that there was never any offer from Sudanese officials to turn over bin Laden to the U.S."

 

You're quoting Sandy Burglar?

 

Ha Ha!

[GettnHuge 2]

The worst terrorist attack in american History

The man you master mind the thing is, STILL RUNNING FREE 5 FOCKING YEARS LATER

 

you mean Khalid Shaikh Mohammed? he was caught 3 and a half years ago

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Sigh...

 

"...former national security advisor Sandy Berger, who insisted in sworn testimony before Congress in Sept. 2002 that there was never any offer from Sudanese officials to turn over bin Laden to the U.S."

 

Why am I wasting my time with you? Everything is Clinton/Kerrys fault, great.

 

Mean while under Bush's watch we have:

 

The worst terrorist attack in american History

The man you master mind the thing is, STILL RUNNING FREE 5 FOCKING YEARS LATER

Started a war that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 even though he said it did

and on and on and on.

 

...I guess all these are Clinton's and those damn lib's fault too.

 

No war for Monica. No war for Monica. Wag the dog. Wag the dog. OMG he got a bj and lied about it. Heaven forbid lets spend millions of dollars to prove he got a bj.

 

By that post I'll take it you don't want to link to the Clinton transcript. I wonder why?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Since Cdub is apparently afraid to post the whole transcript, I will link to the pertinent audio and let him explain what Slick meant.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3

[Guest Davaco]

and bush did nothing when he was in office. there is plenty of blame to go around.

 

plus, did OBL form AQ the day clinton was inagurated? i think not, which puts bush 1 on the hook as well.

 

and if bush 1 would have went all the way during desert storm...

 

plus, OBL is a weed, kill him, another one grows

 

:yawn:

[Recliner Pilot 61]

did OBL form AQ the day clinton was inagurated?

 

Dunno, is that something Monica did to him?

[Cdub100 3,909]

you mean Khalid Shaikh Mohammed? he was caught 3 and a half years ago

 

Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks

 

 

Since Cdub is apparently afraid to post the whole transcript, I will link to the pertinent audio and let him explain what Slick meant.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3

 

Please show me in here where it says, Sudan offered me Bin Laden but I refused. It doesn't you hack.

 

TRANSCRIPT:

 

Ex-President Clinton's Remarks on Osama bin Laden

Delivered to the Long Island Association's Annual Luncheon

Crest Hollow Country Club, Woodbury, NY

Feb. 15, 2002

 

Question from LIA President Matthew Crosson:

 

CROSSON: In hindsight, would you have handled the issue of terrorism, and al-Qaeda specifically, in a different way during your administration?

 

CLINTON: Well, it's interesting now, you know, that I would be asked that question because, at the time, a lot of people thought I was too obsessed with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

 

And when I bombed his training camp and tried to kill him and his high command in 1998 after the African embassy bombings, some people criticized me for doing it. We just barely missed him by a couple of hours.

 

I think whoever told us he was going to be there told somebody who told him that our missiles might be there. I think we were ratted out.

 

We also bombed a chemical facility in Sudan where we were criticized, even in this country, for overreaching. But in the trial in New York City of the al-Qaeda people who bombed the African embassy, they testified in the trial that the Sudanese facility was, in fact, a part of their attempt to stockpile chemical weapons.

 

So we tried to be quite aggressive with them. We got - uh - well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan.

 

And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again.

 

They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

 

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan.

 

We then put a lot of sanctions on the Afghan government and - but they inter-married, Mullah Omar and bin Laden. So that essentially the Taliban didn't care what we did to them.

 

Now, if you look back - in the hindsight of history, everybody's got 20/20 vision - the real issue is should we have attacked the al-Qaeda network in 1999 or in 2000 in Afghanistan.

 

Here's the problem. Before September 11 we would have had no support for it - no allied support and no basing rights. So we actually trained to do this. I actually trained people to do this. We trained people.

 

But in order to do it, we would have had to take them in on attack helicopters 900 miles from the nearest boat - maybe illegally violating the airspace of people if they wouldn't give us approval. And we would have had to do a refueling stop.

 

And we would have had to make the decision in advance that's the reverse of what President Bush made - and I agreed with what he did. They basically decided - this may be frustrating to you now that we don't have bin Laden. But the president had to decide after Sept. 11, which am I going to do first? Just go after bin Laden or get rid of the Taliban?

 

He decided to get rid of the Taliban. I personally agree with that decision, even though it may or may not have delayed the capture of bin Laden. Why?

 

Because, first of all the Taliban was the most reactionary government on earth and there was an inherent value in getting rid of them.

 

Secondly, they supported terrorism and we'd send a good signal to governments that if you support terrorism and they attack us in America, we will hold you responsible.

 

Thirdly, it enabled our soldiers and Marines and others to operate more safely in-country as they look for bin Laden and the other senior leadership, because if we'd have had to have gone in there to just sort of clean out one area, try to establish a base camp and operate.

 

So for all those reasons the military recommended against it. There was a high probability that it wouldn't succeed.

 

Now I had one other option. I could have bombed or sent more missiles in. As far as we knew he never went back to his training camp. So the only place bin Laden ever went that we knew was occasionally he went to Khandahar where he always spent the night in a compound that had 200 women and children.

 

So I could have, on any given night, ordered an attack that I knew would kill 200 women and children that had less than a 50 percent chance of getting him.

 

Now, after he murdered 3,100 of our people and others who came to our country seeking their livelihood you may say, "Well, Mr. President, you should have killed those 200 women and children."

 

But at the time we didn't think he had the capacity to do that. And no one thought that I should do that. Although I take full responsibility for it. You need to know that those are the two options I had. And there was less than a 50/50 chance that the intelligence was right that on this particular night he was in Afghanistan.

 

Now, we did do a lot of things. We tried to get the Pakistanis to go get him. They could have done it and they wouldn't. They changed governments at the time from Mr. Sharif to President Musharraf. And we tried to get others to do it. We had a standing contract between the CIA and some groups in Afghanistan authorizing them and paying them if they should be successful in arresting and/or killing him.

 

So I tried hard to - I always thought this guy was a big problem. And apparently the options I had were the options that the President and Vice President Cheney and Secretary Powell and all the people that were involved in the Gulf War thought that they had, too, during the first eight months that they were there - until Sept. 11 changed everything.

 

But I did the best I could with it and I do not believe, based on what options were available to me, that I could have done much more than I did. Obviously, I wish I'd been successful. I tried a lot of different ways to get bin Laden 'cause I always thought he was a very dangerous man. He's smart, he's bold and committed.

 

But I think it's very important that the Bush administration do what they're doing to keep the soldiers over there to keep chasing him. But I know - like I said - I know it might be frustrating to you. But it's still better for bin Laden to worry every day more about whether he's going to see the sun come up in the morning than whether he's going to drop a bomb, another bomb somewhere in the U.S. or in Europe or on some other innocent civilians. (END OF TRANSCRIPT)

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Hey look, Cdub is here. Mebbe he will link us to the full transcript of the Clinton speech and point out how Bin Laden WASN'T offered to Clinton.

 

Or mebbe not.

[Cdub100 3,909]

Hey look, Cdub is here. Mebbe he will link us to the full transcript of the Clinton speech and point out how Bin Laden WASN'T offered to Clinton.

 

Or mebbe not.

 

... show me where it says Sudan offered him to us.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

... show me where it says Sudan offered him to us.

 

Why no link?

 

Explain how Clinton was able to decide to not bring Bin Laden here if he wasn't available to be brought here, or how Clinton was able to plead with the Saudis to take him if he wasn't available?

 

"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

 

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan

[Cdub100 3,909]

Why no link?

 

Explain how Clinton was able to decide to not bring Bin Laden here if he wasn't available to be brought here, or how Clinton was able to plead with the Saudis to take him if he wasn't available?

 

"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

 

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan

 

"Clinton was offered Bin Laden delivered to him but turned the offer down." - RP

 

...You are focking retard. Where the hell does it say he was offered to us, because that's what you said. This forced me to point out what a complete tool you are

 

Clinton said he didn't not bring him here because he couldn't in 1996.

 

At the time OBL committed no crimes against America, but he did commit crimes against Sudan and Clinton asked them to take him, but they didn't want to touch him with a 10 foot poll.

 

What's so hard to understand?

 

Also I posted the whole transcrip no cut and past job like you.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

"Clinton was offered Bin Laden delivered to him but turned the offer down." - RP

 

...You are focking retard. Where the hell does it say he was offered to us, because that's what you said. This forced me to point out what a complete tool you are

 

Clinton said he didn't not bring him here because he couldn't in 1996.

 

At the time OBL committed no crimes against America, but he did commit crimes against Sudan and Clinton asked them to take him, but they didn't want to touch him with a 10 foot poll.

 

What's so hard to understand?

 

Also I posted the whole transcrip no cut and past job like you.

 

lol

 

Do you own the Davaco alias? By Clinton's own words he confirms the offer was made, or he couldn't turn them down, or try to get someone else to take him. I know this may be above your reasoning ability, but it is a fact.

 

Um, and Clinton asked the Saudis to take him, not Sudan. Sudan is who offered Bin Laden to Clinton. Man, you can't even get that right.

[Cdub100 3,909]

lol

 

Do you own the Davaco alias? By Clinton's own words he confirms the offer was made, or he couldn't turn them down, or try to get someone else to take him. I know this may be above your reasoning ability, but it is a fact.

 

Um, and Clinton asked the Saudis to take him, not Sudan. Sudan is who offered Bin Laden to Clinton. Man, you can't even get that right.

 

Keep reaching, you just might take hold of reality

[MDC 7,432]

This clown did nothing while in office, and now he is trying to re-write history by claiming he "tried" to get Bin laden. Too bad all evidence says otherwise.

 

Vid of Slick losing it:

 

 

Where else have I seen him jab that figure at the camera like that? Oh yeah, here:

 

 

In poker we call that a "tell".......I guess he always does that when he is lying through his teeth.

 

 

At least al Qaida didn't blow up the Trade Center and New Orleans didn't drown while Clinton was President.

[Montezuma 0]

I usually try to stay out of the political discussions here. But what is the transcript that people are talking about but no one will link? Was OBL actually offered to Clinton, if so how do we know? I'm not trying to argue one way or another, this is the first I've heard of this, can anyone run through this from the beginning (with links)?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Keep reaching, you just might take hold of reality

 

lol

 

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

[Snoopy1 0]

lol

 

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

 

 

Sure isn't focking yours...

 

And again, 9/11 commision has stated this supposed "offer" never took place. Apparently only Hanity and RP are in the know on this one...

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ok Sport, why don't you explain Clinton's quotes I provided.

 

Was he on crack when he said he didn't want to take Bin Laden because he didn't have a reason to keep him?

Was he on crack when he said he pleaded with the Saudis to take him?

 

This should be good.

[Guest Davaco]

isnt this a moot point? if bin laden was vaporized by clinton, AQ would just name someone else thier leader and move on.

 

is it really that hard to plan 9/11?

 

take flight lessons

hi-jack planes

crash into buildings

 

sure bin laden finaced it with his billions, but something tells me that his money wasnt in a diversified portfoloio of common stocks and bonds. Pretty sure anyone could have had access to his coin if he was dead.

[Snoopy1 0]

Ok Sport, why don't you explain Clinton's quotes I provided.

 

Was he on crack when he said he didn't want to take Bin Laden because he didn't have a reason to keep him?

Was he on crack when he said he pleaded with the Saudis to take him?

 

This should be good.

 

Translation: This is what RP does when he can't prove something...

 

Hey RP the 9/11 commission heard that tape too, and they still said the Sudan never offered Bin Laden.

 

 

Since you keep claiming this is true, I guess this would be one more time you've been caught lying.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Hey RP the 9/11 commission heard that tape too, and they still said the Sudan never offered Bin Laden.

 

Um, no they didn't. It came to light after the 9/11 commission. Clinton spent 4 hours in front of those yahoos spinning his version of what happened.

 

And I notice you have nothing in the way of an explanation as to why Clinton said he didn't take Bin Laden but pleaded with the Saudis to take him.

[De Novo 0]

Recliner Pilot with the typical Republican defense tactic: deflection. Bush PROMISED to get Bin Ladin. 5 years ago. He's said multiple times since then things to the effect of "I don't know where he is" or "I don't care where he is" or "I don't think about him very often." Bush broke a promise, and spread false information in order to go to war. Yet, it's Clinton's fault

 

Wasn't it a Republican who armed Bin Ladin anyway? If this is about Dems vs. Republicans, you're more to blame than anyone.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I still note none of you are willing to explain what Clinton was talking about in the link I provided.

[De Novo 0]

I still note none of you are willing to explain what Clinton was talking about in the link I provided.

Clinton said that he couldn't capture Bin Ladin because had no grounds to hold Bin Ladin on. He wanted the Saudis to take him. They didn't. Seems pretty straightforward.

 

Bin Laden was armed by the CIA under *GASP* Reagan's watch. By your argument, this surely is the fault of Republicans.

[Snoopy1 0]

I still note none of you are willing to explain what Clinton was talking about in the link I provided.

 

 

Why? It's been explained to you half a dozen times. If you don't get it by now, you just are smart enough to understand it.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Why? It's been explained to you half a dozen times.

 

Sorry, not one of you have explained what Clinton was talking about. All you have is "The 9/11 Commission report" said.................but they didn't have this tape before their report was issued.

 

All they had was Clinton spinning his version of events.

[Uh-huh 0]

Sorry, not one of you have explained what Clinton was talking about. All you have is "The 9/11 Commission report" said.................but they didn't have this tape before their report was issued.

 

All they had was Clinton spinning his version of events.

 

Hey, it's the lil' gay deceiver!

 

What are you babbling lying about this time?

 

Pay homage to your god, lemming.