swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 5, 2006 CHICAGO 10 Buffalo CAROLINA 9 Cleveland MINNESOTA 6½ Detroit NEW ENGLAND 10 Miami St. Louis 3 GREEN BAY NEW ORLEANS 6½ Tampa Bay INDIANAPOLIS 19 Tennessee NY GIANTS 4½ Washington Kansas City 3 ARIZONA JACKSONVILLE 7 NY Jets SAN FRANCISCO 3½ Oakland PHILADELPHIA 2 Dallas SAN DIEGO 3 Pittsburgh Monday, Oct. 9 DENVER 4 Baltimore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thenewlibrahi2 0 Posted October 5, 2006 Philly and KC look very good to me. Philly and KC look very good to me. Here are all of my picks, in red.... CHICAGO 10 Buffalo CAROLINA 9 Cleveland MINNESOTA 6½ Detroit NEW ENGLAND 10 Miami St. Louis 3 GREEN BAY NEW ORLEANS 6½ Tampa Bay INDIANAPOLIS 19 Tennessee NY GIANTS 4½ Washington Kansas City 3 ARIZONA JACKSONVILLE 7 NY Jets SAN FRANCISCO 3½ Oakland PHILADELPHIA 2 Dallas SAN DIEGO 3 Pittsburgh Monday, Oct. 9 DENVER 4 Baltimore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 5, 2006 I forgot no one likes to bet on this site.... Anyways a few of my picks Pittsburg NE KC TB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 997 Posted October 5, 2006 Philidelphia -2 over Dallas looks too good to be true. Philly and McNabb have been playing great football lately. At home against a struggling Dallas team? Seems too easy. If Terrel Owens wasn't playing, the line would probably be a lot higher, like -6 or -7. Owens is good, but I don't think Bloedsoe can keep up with McNabb's scoring. Not on the road against a tough Phily D. I'll take Phili -2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4i's 0 Posted October 5, 2006 Philidelphia -2 over Dallas looks too good to be true. Philly and McNabb have been playing great football lately. At home against a struggling Dallas team? Seems too easy. If Terrel Owens wasn't playing, the line would probably be a lot higher, like -6 or -7. Owens is good, but I don't think Bloedsoe can keep up with McNabb's scoring. Not on the road against a tough Phily D. I'll take Phili -2. I don't know how u can say that the Cowboys is struggling? Their defense is very good, and much better than Phillies D with the bang up secondary. Their offense showed that they are capable of scoring on any team. The line at -2 and -3 is where it should be for an even match up, and home team should get 3 pts as favorite. If the line is moving toward -3.5 which I doubt it would be, everyone will shift toward the underdog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 6, 2006 Philidelphia -2 over Dallas looks too good to be true. Philly and McNabb have been playing great football lately. At home against a struggling Dallas team? Seems too easy. If Terrel Owens wasn't playing, the line would probably be a lot higher, like -6 or -7. Owens is good, but I don't think Bloedsoe can keep up with McNabb's scoring. Not on the road against a tough Phily D. I'll take Phili -2. Same teams and Dallas won both last yr if I am not mitaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hadji 0 Posted October 6, 2006 I don't know why the Giants are getting so much respect. They are not that good. Redskins seems to be playing a lot better with Portis finally back and healthy. I would pick the Redskins outright but getting 4 1/2 is a no brainer to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted October 6, 2006 I don't know why the Giants are getting so much respect. They are not that good. Redskins seems to be playing a lot better with Portis finally back and healthy. I would pick the Redskins outright but getting 4 1/2 is a no brainer to me. Last year they faced at the Meadowlands right after the death of Wellington Mara, so it was an inspired game for the G-Men but they absolutely skunked the Skins like 36-0 or something. Pretty much the same teams without much change and the Giants just had a bye. Just an FYI. May your wagers be profitable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urmother 0 Posted October 6, 2006 i like philly and kc also (altho you have to pay a premium for kc at -3, -130 at my book). still i see 'em destroying the rook. i also like detroit at +6.5. w/the exception of the chicago game they've been keeping it close. they're offense looks like it's getting in gear and their run defense is tough. not a bad money line either. for points i like indy/tn under 48 and balt/den over 33. the tenn offense under young will be close to zilch, and indy will be in control early enough that they'll have the starters out and be playing ball control by the 3rd quarter. as for bal/den, 33 is just a low spread, especially for 2 offenses that both can put up some points. (despite their sluggishness so far) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 6, 2006 i like philly and kc also (altho you have to pay a premium for kc at -3, -130 at my book). still i see 'em destroying the rook. i also like detroit at +6.5. w/the exception of the chicago game they've been keeping it close. they're offense looks like it's getting in gear and their run defense is tough. not a bad money line either. for points i like indy/tn under 48 and balt/den over 33. the tenn offense under young will be close to zilch, and indy will be in control early enough that they'll have the starters out and be playing ball control by the 3rd quarter. as for bal/den, 33 is just a low spread, especially for 2 offenses that both can put up some points. (despite their sluggishness so far) Minnesota pretty much always covers at home, having said that yeah detroit has been getting pretty close Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nocarbs 0 Posted October 6, 2006 In college, take Tenn. -3 against UGA. that is X-mas early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmueller44 0 Posted October 6, 2006 Hey swirvenirvin :::: Please change the title of this thread to: ***Official NFL Wagering Thread*** 10/6 thru 10/7 (Week#5) The above has been the name of the wagering threads all season long. It is much easier to search and scroll to find them when you are consistant. THANK YOU!!!!! I didn't want to start another thread, and the stuff in this one is good. UPDATE: THANKS FOR SWITCHING THE TITLE!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 6, 2006 Hey swirvenirvin :::: Please change the title of this thread to: ***Official NFL Wagering Thread*** 10/6 thru 10/7 (Week#5) The above has been the name of the wagering threads all season long. It is much easier to search and scroll to find them when you are consistant. THANK YOU!!!!! I didn't want to start another thread, and the stuff in this one is good. UPDATE: THANKS FOR SWITCHING THE TITLE!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulletia 0 Posted October 6, 2006 I like the bills +10, I love them +11. The bears have destroyed some real weak sisters int he packers and lions. got all over seattle early. but the one common opponent they beat the vikes by 3 the bills won by 5 the bills have lost two games by a total of 10 points. the bears average 3.0 ypc, and have relied ona strong passing game thus far. The bills strength is defrending the pass. whether the bills offense can score some points well who knows. the lions were so close to 40 you can't even imagine. i like the bears to beat my bilsl but get a serious dog fight, somewhere areounf a 21-17 score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingofBeer 0 Posted October 6, 2006 I'm not sure why you guys like the Eagles so much. They are probably the most banged up team in the league and they haven't beaten a quality team yet. Their secondary will struggle to contain Glenn and TO, and their offense isn't the same when Westbrook is injured. I'm an Eagles fan so I wont bet against them...but dallas sure looks like a good wager to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
new-guru 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Any one taking SF home against the Raiders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,913 Posted October 8, 2006 Philly line is at -1.5 now??!!! Something going on i dont know about? I know Philly is banged up...but 1.5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Anyone with an Olympic Sportsbook account (referral ID: 47829 if interested!), best value prop bet of the day: Willis McGahee -10.5 yards over Thomas Jones (+200) McGahee has been on a tear and Jones had his only 100-yard game of the season last week. Bills are better than people think and I can see McGahee finding some holes as the defense focuses on torturing JP Losman. Not a sure thing by any means, but you can't beat 2:1 odds on a prop that has a good chance to cash even if it was standard odds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,913 Posted October 8, 2006 Ok can you veterans give me some advice here...... Was thinking of putting some $ on a parlay of St Louis -2.5 KC -3.5 Carolina -8 All to cover..... Do you guys see anything way wrong with doing that?? Thanks guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Ok can you veterans give me some advice here......Was thinking of putting some $ on a parlay of St Louis -2.5 KC -3.5 Carolina -8 All to cover..... Do you guys see anything way wrong with doing that?? Thanks guys. Parlays are traditionally bad bets? Also, St. Louis isn't a good bet. Away from the dome, they are downright putrid. Green Bay should win this one outright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,913 Posted October 8, 2006 Parlays are traditionally bad bets? Also, St. Louis isn't a good bet. Away from the dome, they are downright putrid. Green Bay should win this one outright. Oh ok....thanks. They are bad because you have to have everything go just right correct? Was thinking STL just because everyone on GB is bagned up on offense...i dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Oh ok....thanks. They are bad because you have to have everything go just right correct? Was thinking STL just because everyone on GB is bagned up on offense...i dunno. Yeah, but Favre to Jennings should be a good combo and Green and Morency are a decent 1-2 punch at home. Personally, I'm not betting anything but my prop bet (McGahee vs. T. Jones), but after getting screwed by St. Louis over and over again in "sure thing" betting situations, I wouldn't lay points with them on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,913 Posted October 8, 2006 Yeah, but Favre to Jennings should be a good combo and Green and Morency are a decent 1-2 punch at home. Personally, I'm not betting anything but my prop bet (McGahee vs. T. Jones), but after getting screwed by St. Louis over and over again in "sure thing" betting situations, I wouldn't lay points with them on the road. Ok ill take your advice.... Went with KC to cover the 3.5 Carolina to cover the 8 And took the over on Baltimore/ Denver (33) We'll see how it goes....but i like my chances with those. Thanks for your help...appreciate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Shepherd 10 Posted October 8, 2006 I'm not sure why you guys like the Eagles so much. They are probably the most banged up team in the league and they haven't beaten a quality team yet. Their secondary will struggle to contain Glenn and TO, and their offense isn't the same when Westbrook is injured. I'm an Eagles fan so I wont bet against them...but dallas sure looks like a good wager to me. echo that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
art schlichter's bookie 0 Posted October 8, 2006 The United Gambling Brotherhood: I've been doing well on Sundays this year, but does the empire strike back this week? Here's my card thus far: Rams -2.5 Rams 1h -.5 Car -7 Car -4.5 1h KC -3 KC score ov 21 pts. I think GB is horrible and I think the Rams will run all over them. KC's D gets a rookie QB and LJ runs vs. Arizona run D? Wow. And Carolina reasserts itself at home vs lowly Browns. three props: Gonzo catch 5 Gates catch 5 Kitna to throw pick gl to all Still considering Philly, Jags, Colts, Colts 1H, SF, SF OVER, NO/TB OV, Bills and SD Probably won't bet all. BONUS college wager: Take N Ill to stomp Miami O tonight. I already got em -6.5 IH and -11 game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Chicago -10 St Louis -3 NY Jets +7 Pittsburgh +3 Denver -4 those are my five big plays this week. chicago is absolutely dominant at home. buffalo has been good, but jp losman will get eaten alive and chicago will win by 20+. st louis is 3-1 with a defense that forces a lot of turnovers. the packers are banged up at RB and WR, and favre isnt even a sure thing to play at this point. the rams are going to put up a lot of points and i dont think the packers can keep up. cant believe the jets are 7 point dogs. i see that jets/jags game as a huge one for both teams as both are playoff contenders but the loser falls to 2-3. jags are banged up and the jets have played the colts as well as anyone last week. defense is firing, offense is good. jets win outright. steelers +3 is an easy bet imo. coming off the bye week in a game they have to have for this season vs a team with a QB still finding his bearings that is highly overrated after two wins over the worst two teams in football. denver is an easy bet for me too. baltimore is overrated right now. the d is forcing a bunch of turnovers but giving up yardage, and i think bell will run alright on them. denver's d has been dominant, and the baltimore offense wont do anything. denver will find a way to take an early lead and then win ugly the rest of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted October 8, 2006 Overall NFL: 35-38; -7.42 units Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 4-5; -4.9 units All for .5 units unless indicated otherwise Sunday NFL NY Giants (-4.5) for 2 units Detroit Green Bay(+3)@-120 for 2 units Miami (+10)@-115 Buffalo (+10)@-115 Cleveland (-7.5) for 2 units Jacksonville (-6.5) for 2 units Dallas (Moneyline@+110) for 2 units Overall College YTD: 118-97-4; +31.52 units Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 49-35-1; +29.72 units Sunday College Pending Parlay 3 units to win 7.37 units Hawaii 1st H (-7) and Northern Illinois 1st H (-7) Northern Illinois (-13.5) for 3 units Good luck to all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted October 9, 2006 Any one taking SF home against the Raiders Right here! I couldnt access this damn board the whole day. Did pretty good today: 10 pt teas including Indy -7 LOSS (unfreakinbelieveable Tenessee hung in like that) Giants -5.5 WIN Indy - 10 WIN (Half time at the greek, they just had to win outright....wow, Sportsbook.com had Indy -13 for the 2nd half which would have resulted in a loss!) SF -3 WIN Philly +1 WIN (Still dont know why Dallas saw so much action???) Pitt 1st half +1.5 WIN 2nd half Pitt/SD under 17.5 WIN In game betting under 33.5 Pitt/SD LOSS 6-2 for the day....Have won huge every weekend except for the drunk Vegas weekend. See yall tomorrow to discuss Monday night play. Late! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Yeah, kind of hard to share thoughts on the betting day when the site is down until football Sunday is just about over! Started off awful and ended up downright fantastic: McGahee Over 10.5 yards more than Thomas Jones (+200) - LOSS 3-team parlay - LOSS Tenn-Indy Over 48 (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!) StL-GB Over 46 TB-NO Over 35 2-team parlay - WINNER! KC-AZ Over 39 Oak-SF Over 39 Ben Roethlisberger Over 17 completions - WINNER Miami OH +14 (-115) - WINNER Even my Dad cashed in on the action today with a winning 3-teamer: BUF-CHI Over 34.5 (I thought he was insane) TB-NO Over 35 KC-AZ Over 39 Best of all, after worrying about whether or not I should hedge my Cardinals in 4 games ticket (and sitting through a potentially disasterous 1st inning), the 6th inning made for a nice 5:1 cash. Best season I've ever had in gambling bar none and I owe it to guys like Ditka, philly, Yer Mom, and the fine folks at Olympic Sportsbook that continue to post props I can take advantage of. Being a degenerate gambler, looking for a nice opportunity for tomorrow night, but I really don't see anything. I'm tempted to go Balt ML (+210) or Balt-Den Super Total Over 40.5 (+220), but neither seem worth it. I'll just have to wait until the props come out tomorrow and hope the odds don't shift too much by the time I get home from work! Great work team! Indy - 10 WIN (Half time at the greek, they just had to win outright....wow, Sportsbook.com had Indy -13 for the 2nd half which would have resulted in a loss!) More proof that Olympic Sportsbook (http://www.thegreek.com) is awesome! I'm always willing to sponsor new members! Just tell 'em bonus wh0re "47829" sent ya! Right, Yer Mom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted October 9, 2006 I'll give it to ya G-men, hard to teach an old dog new tricks and I really didnt want to experiment with a new service. Without a doubt Olympic is the undisputed best online book ive used (have only used 3 though) They let you 10pt teas totals!!! I couldnt freakin believe that. You can manipulate the point total by 1/3 to 1/4 most games. They also have halftime lines already set with over 1-2 minutes left in the 2nd quarter!?!? Weird but if you know what your doing you can really cash in when the opportunity presents itself. Had a good winning first week with them and the payout on pending wagers is instantaneous. Unless I have any problems with withdrawals on payouts, I need no other book for any reason. Hopefully you do well with the referral dollars bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgod 0 Posted October 9, 2006 In a for fun pick 'em vs the spread I went 7 of 8 on the early games with my one setback being the result of the last second Cleveland FG (which caused me to miss by 0.5 pts.) Unfortunately I couldn't follow that up in the afternoon/evening games as I went 1 of 5. Here were my picks: NE -9.5 over Mia Chi -11.5 over Buf Ten -18.5 over Indy Tamp +6.5 over NO Minny -6.5 over Det StL +2.5 over GB NYG -4.5 over Wash Car -8.5 over Clev SF -3.5 over Oak NYJ +7.5 over Jax KC -3.5 over Ariz Dal +2.5 over Philly Pitt +3.5 over SD Took Den +4.5 over Balt on Mon but it won't matter as my late game showing prevents me from the glroy of bragging rights for a this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
art schlichter's bookie 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Had a good day yesterday. Won some $. Could have been a great day but N Ill screwed me on college side. Love Ray and them tonight. Should be a tight, field goal game. Bal +5.5 couple o units gl to all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted October 9, 2006 Tonights play: 50% of the bets i've lost this year have come via UNDER the total. I hate em hate em hate em cause rooting against points is just no fun. And the few bets i've lost on the under were because of special teams blunders like muffing the catch and opponent takes over in the red zone....just makes me sick. I really see Denver covering the 5.5 and really have only one reason for not jumping on it. The weather conditions for tonights game as of now are 30 degrees with chances of rain and snow. I see this game with a similar final to their game 2 weeks ago at NE which was 17-7. With Denver coming off a bye and being at home I think it will be very difficult for Balt to come across points unless it comes via turnovers or poor special teams. I figure Denver to be good for 17ish points but because of the weather and a bad azz Balt D I have to lean to the under. Theres nothing cool about the under being at 33 though.....just sucks. Under 33 1.5 Benjis Good Luck!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzrboy 0 Posted October 9, 2006 This game is starting to look like a total contrarian play. Denver hasn't scored more than 17 yet in 3 games. Denver is avging 12 pts a game, giving up 10 pts a game. Baltimore is avging 21 a game, giving up 8 pts a game. Denver has 3 unders. Baltimore has 3 unders and a push. Last year's meeting produced a 12-10 game. Three year's ago produced a 6-26 game. The weather is cold, rainy, possibly snowy. Baltimore's stats for o/u are all dominated by the under for the last 3 years except for one. On Monday night's over the last 3 years, 3 overs and no unders. The logical choice is the under here. All evidence says under. But, I foresee some big plays tonight. Maybe a long run by Jamaal Lewis or Tatum Bell. Maybe a long pass to Javon Walker or Todd Heap. Maybe a punt return or defensive return (we are talking about Jake Plummer here). I'm gonna try the over, it makes no sense, but I'm gonna try it. Or a more attractive side is Rod Smith over 4 catches (-135). The juice is high on it, but Rod only averages 3 out of 16 games per year with less than 4 catches, and he's already had two games with less than 4 catches this year. If Rod is on the field, Jake will find him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yer mom 2 Posted October 9, 2006 Under 33 2 benjis (added .5 to original for weather factor) ADDED Balt first score to be Field Goal or Safety +110 1 Benji Denver First score to be Field goal or safety +120 1 Benji May do some in game plays if there seems like benefit Good luck!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VoDZKABoY 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Is the weather that bad in Denver? If so, I'm considering taking a shot at "No TD scored in game" for the first player to score a TD at +2000. If a TD is scored, it will likely be a RB. Here are the current odds for the RB's listed: Lewis +500 M. Anderson +1000 Tatum Bell +500 Mike Bell +800 Some interesting propositions I must say. Like some of you guys, I use the Greek and have made a killing on their prop bets, teasers, and live betting. It's a great site for those of you looking to move on to a better site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHulka 0 Posted October 9, 2006 steelers +3 is an easy bet imo. coming off the bye week in a game they have to have for this season vs a team with a QB still finding his bearings that is highly overrated after two wins over the worst two teams in football. You might want to start watching the games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC Chef Jeff 0 Posted October 9, 2006 This game is starting to look like a total contrarian play. A "contrarian". Isn't that a single-celled animal?? I'm thinking the Broncos will cover, which is why I'm going with Ravens +5. Brought up the 6 pt teaser for under 39 and +11, but couldn't PTG. Good luck to everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Is the weather that bad in Denver? If so, I'm considering taking a shot at "No TD scored in game" for the first player to score a TD at +2000. If a TD is scored, it will likely be a RB. Here are the current odds for the RB's listed: Lewis +500 M. Anderson +1000 Tatum Bell +500 Mike Bell +800 Some interesting propositions I must say. Like some of you guys, I use the Greek and have made a killing on their prop bets, teasers, and live betting. It's a great site for those of you looking to move on to a better site. Exactly. And if you sign up for Olympic/The Greek, tell 'em "47829" sent ya! Email BTC316@hotmail.com with any questions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHulka 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Glad I got Denver -3.5 before the line moved so drastically. Would love to see Denver win by 4, which would really hammer Vegas, assuming that most of the current action is going in Baltimore's direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites