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**Official College Bowl Games Betting Thread**

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:wub: Philly, I have to thank you for the Boise St. pick. That one saved my ass today. I put a nice amount on the money line and on the spread. My stupid overs went 2-3, so I kept faith and figured if you missed your WV pick, it's not very likely that you will miss the Boise pick also. I would never have thought Boise had a chance in this game until I read your writeup.

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I'm leaning towards wake since the dogs have been covering a ton lately. 10 points is a bunch in a bowl game for a ranked team to be getting. I'll wait for philly, art, hurricane to post, they have a lot more info than i have time to look up right now.

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I'm leaning towards wake since the dogs have been covering a ton lately. 10 points is a bunch in a bowl game for a ranked team to be getting. I'll wait for philly, art, hurricane to post, they have a lot more info than i have time to look up right now.

 

I feel the same way. I will say this: I don't care if every solid gambler on this thread (Ditka, philly, Art Schlichter and the MIA Yer Mom) all pick Louisville, I am not taking a heavy favorite for the rest of the Bowl season. I'm still hurting from what West Virginia did to me yesterday and lost my ass on Clemson on Friday (same -9.5 spread)

 

So it's either Wake plus the points, the over for the game, or the team overs (for L'ville or both).

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Had a .500 day but Michigan cost me big. My god Lloyd Carr is incompetent.

 

I like Louisville and LSU in the upcoming games.

But I think I might just lay off and keep my powder dry for the weekend.

Those spreads are a tad high.

 

See you all back here for weekend action in NFL and college.

 

gl to all

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Well, for what its worth (probably not much :doublethumbsup: ) I am taking the following in the Orange Bowl:

 

Wake +10 2 units

Wake ML 2 units

 

Good luck all!

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I'm thinking about passing on this game. Wake Forest overachieved in a mediocre ACC this year, and is likely to get exposed tonight. But Wake Forest is a very good team ATS under coach Grobe as an underdog. This might be one where I wait until the last second to make a small play.

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I'm thinking about passing on this game...This might be one where I wait until the last second to make a small play.

 

Classic philly! :cry:

 

Let me know what you think of the total in this one. Wake has a solid D, but I think they'll have to open it up (like OK last night).

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10-11 for bowls and down 1 unit thanks to Philly and his Boise play. Tonight I'm riding Louisville who to me is one of the top 2 or 3 explosive teams in college ball IMO. Wake has been a great story but they lost at UNC and were beaten pretty soundly by V Tech recently. Louisville was on a roll down the stretch and thrashed a pretty solid S Florida team. Giving the 9.5 and taking the Cardinals. It's definately a risk giving that many points but Louisville can hang a lot of points on almost anyone if they are on a roll.

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Boise State and SIU saved me from disaster yesterday. I am taking Wake Forest +10 tonight. Basically, they have been money all year and 10 points is alot for an 11 win team in a bowl game.

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I'm going with the first half over of 25.5 on Wake/Lville. I have no reasoning for this other than a hunch.

After watching every play of the first half in USC/Michigan game yesterday, seeing them struggle to move the ball AT ALL, I would have bet anything that they wouldn't combine for more than 21 pts in the second half, let alone 30, or 40, or what they actually scored (44). And the opposite of that game was most of the early games where both teams scored early and then produced VERY LITTLE second half scoring. :dunno: That kind of ass-backwards logic has me talking to myself. I've given up trying to reason anything out. :lol: If USC and Michigan can score 44 points in a half without OT, anything can happen.

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Overall College YTD: 273-235-6; +57.67 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 144-115-2; +67.17 units

Subset: College bowls: 17-11; +15.65 units

 

Tuesday

 

Louisville (-10) for 2 units WINNER!!

 

Bah. I guess I couldn't pass this game after all.

 

Call it a hunch play. Lots of big dogs have been covering lately. I don't think a double digit favorite has covered since TCU on the first game of the bowls. I think Louisville had enough time off to prepare for the Wake Forest misdirection offense. And Wake is going to have trouble with this Louisville offense.

 

Lay the lumber. Good luck to all.

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Overall College YTD: 273-235-6; +57.67 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 144-115-2; +67.17 units

Subset: College bowls: 17-11; +15.65 units

 

Tuesday

 

Louisville (+10) for 2 units

 

Bah. I guess I couldn't pass this game after all.

 

Call it a hunch play. Lots of big dogs have been covering lately. I don't think a double digit favorite has covered since TCU on the first game of the bowls. I think Louisville had enough time off to prepare for the Wake Forest misdirection offense. And Wake is going to have trouble with this Louisville offense.

 

Lay the lumber. Good luck to all.

 

I think you mean -10. No way I take lumber in these freakin' bowls. I took Wake at +10.5. Here's hoping you get a push!

 

Good luck to all!

 

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Bowls 11-13 ATS

Streak 5-2

 

A favorite is due to cover, and I think L'ville is the one. I'm on record for the Big East being overlooked, and Wake is very much a product of their system. A month to prep is to the Cards advantage, and their athleticism will be too much for the Demon Deacons. The common opponent trend is 6-0 in bowl games. While the differential between Louisville and Wake's victories over Syracuse isn't that great (28-13, 20-10) Wakes was at home, L'ville @ the Cuse.

 

Give the points.

 

Good luck to all!

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I think you mean -10.

 

Whoops. Fixored. I guess I am so used to taking underdogs, that will happen.

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Do college players do anything but fumble? Seriously.

 

Seems the only things you will see in college ball is:

 

1. Constant fumbles in the red zone

2. 4th downs galore (and usually they don't make it unless it's the team you're rooting against)

3. Challenges that never get reversed!!!

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Overall College YTD: 273-235-6; +57.67 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 144-115-2; +67.17 units

Subset: College bowls: 17-11; +15.65 units

 

Tuesday

 

Louisville (-10) for 2 units WINNER!!

 

Bah. I guess I couldn't pass this game after all.

 

Call it a hunch play. Lots of big dogs have been covering lately. I don't think a double digit favorite has covered since TCU on the first game of the bowls. I think Louisville had enough time off to prepare for the Wake Forest misdirection offense. And Wake is going to have trouble with this Louisville offense.

 

Lay the lumber. Good luck to all.

 

Was pleasantly surprised to wake up and see that Louisville covered...

 

Overall College YTD: 274-235-6; +59.67 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 145-115-2; +69.17 units

Subset: College bowls: 18-11; +17.65 units

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Overall College YTD: 274-235-6; +59.67 units

Subset: 2 unit plays or higher: 145-115-2; +69.17 units

Subset: Bowls: 18-11; +17.65 units

 

Wednesday

 

LSU (-8.5) for 2 units WINNER!!

Over LSU/ND (56) for 2 units LOSER!!

 

With the season fast approaching to an end, I am happy to be up about 60 units. It's not quite the +77.5 units of last year. And it's better than the goal I set for myself a month or so ago to reach +50 units. Feels like I am playing with house money, so I'll get a little aggressive on tonight's games.

 

Key angle: Notre Dame is 0-8 ATS last 8 bowl games. Notre Dame has not won a bowl game since 1994.

Key angle: LSU is 7-0 ATS vs non-conference teams last two years.

 

Games like Kentucky upsetting Clemson and Boise St beating Oklahoma have given enthusiasm to bettors to take big dogs in some of these late bowl games. However, sometimes the mismatch is just too great between two teams. Wake Forest gave Louisville a lot of trouble last night. Yet, Louisville still got the 11 point win and cover. And Notre Dame will probably be a popular play tonight, I am guessing, since I can't access sportsinsights from work. Hell, Notre Dame is the most popular college football team in the country, so of course they will be backed by the public tonight. However, the real problem here is that while LSU is considered the most talented SEC team, Notre Dame is slow, bad defensively, and been blown out by 26 points to Michigan and 20 points to USC, the only BCS bowl teams on their schedule.

 

There is no doubt that Notre Dame faced an easy schedule. Their quality victories are a 38-14 win over Navy in the first game that Navy was starting a backup QB, a 41-17 home win over Penn St in game that Penn St outgained Notre Dame, but lost the turnover battle 3-0, and a 20-17 home win over UCLA, in a game Notre Dame needed a last second TD to win, and a 14-10 win over Georgia Tech in Week One. Notre Dame, despite playing a bunch of cupcakes in a piss poor schedule, gained 5.8 yards per play vs teams that allow 5.2 ypp. They allow 5.2 yards per play vs teams that gain 5.2 ypp. I am not impressed, especially defensively.

 

LSU gains 6.5 ypp vs teams that allow 5.4 ypp. LSU allows 4.1 ypp vs teams that average 5.3 ypp. LSU is ranked #3 in the nation on defense. LSU has the much better offense and defense in this game. LSU lost two games this year, 7-3 at Auburn, in a game where LSU got screwed repeatedly by the officials. They lost to Florida 23-10, in a game they turned it over 5 times. They are coming in with a 6 game winning streak, including a win at Arkansas in their last game.

 

Mindset is a tricky thing tonight. Notre Dame feels disrespected, saying that people are calling them slow. Brady Quinn: "I get tired of hearing how bad we are." Newsflash: Notre Dame hasn't won a bowl game since 1994. The offensive line is leaky and the pass defense gives up big plays. I think this is Notre Dame's way of trying to rebound from a bad loss to USC, a game where Notre Dame was trying to propel itself into a top ranking this year, trying to pump themselves up. They were outplayed, shredded by Booty and the USC WRs. Will LSU bring less motivation into this game that Notre Dame? I don't think so. The Sugar Bowl is back in New Orleans after a one year absence, and this is in LSU's back yard. They might get a similar boost as the Saints did on that Monday Night game vs Atlanta early in the NFL season.

 

I have been going against Notre Dame a lot this year, especially the middle toward the end of the year, and that has made me money. I thought they were overrated all year long, and I won't change my opinion now. The fact that both teams are in the top 14 in points scored, and that we haven't seen many shootouts in bowls the last couple of days lead me to like the OVER. If Notre Dame wants to hang around in this game, they have to outscore LSU. I think given all this time to prepare, Charlie Weiss will have a good enough game plan for Notre Dame to scores points. But I don't think it will be enough. I will fade Notre Dame again.

 

Good luck to all.

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I need Notre Dame to win the game outright for me to win my college bowl pick em contest at work. Im not feeling good about this. :thumbsdown:

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Looking to take the over on whatever the books set as the total passing yardage for Brady Quinn. I'm hoping it's with 250 yards, but I'll pound it at any number to chase my losses from yesterday.

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Bowls 12-13

 

Last 10: 7-3, streaks 3-0, 7-2

 

LSU has better talent. Bigger, faster, superior athletes, especially on the defensive side. Notre Dame has effectively moved the ball on offense all year, but they haven't stopped anyone. Physically, it's a bit of a mismatch.

 

The pro scouts think we'll see many more matchups between the two QB here. Personally, I'm not a big Russell fan. He hasn't played well against the best teams on their schedule, throwing 3 Int's each vs Tennessee and Florida. LSU got some bad officiating vs Auburn, but he made a major mistake late to cost the Tigers a shot at winning, in a game where their offense mustered only a FG. He's a specimen, but I think he needs another year of college ball. Not the case with Quinn. The guy's ability gets unfairly denigrated by the backlash against the media's perceived love of Notre Dame. He can make every throw, is tough to sack, and is NFL ready (or at least as ready as college QB are).

 

I think Charlie Weiss is the wild card here. The Irish defense aren't going to shut anybody down, but their WR (especially the kid with the unspellable name) are as good as anyone's. They've had a month to get ready for this game. It spooks me a bit that the defenses have come out so strong after the layoff in other games, while the offenses have struggled a bit to find their footing. But I like his ability to game plan vs an LSU scheme that isn't going to do anything too tricky. They rely on their personnel to line up and come at you. Throw in the underdog attitude that has suited teams so well in the post-season, and the Irish look good to me in a shootout.

 

I haven't seen where the line is now; I'm stuck at work. But at the 8.5 that I saw earlier, I like Notre Dame and the points.

 

ETA: Got this at ND +9.5 (buying the half point)

 

Good luck to all!

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Isn't the Sugar Bowl in LSU's backyard? I think this is a huge advantage for LSU.

 

:D It sure didn't hurt them against Oklahoma in the 2003 BCS Championship game.

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That LSU defense is viscious!!!

 

I'm thinking shootout.

Weis will have 5 weeks to prepare for this game. I don't think ND will have that much trouble moving the ball.

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2006 College Football Record

156-133-6 (54%) +11.98 units

2+ plays 30-28-1 +1.265 units

 

LSU -8.5 .5 unit

 

I've taken a back seat during most of this bowl season, and other than philly i've seen a lot of good cappers get hit hard these past few weeks. This is one I wanted to play though. i've seen ND get beat badly against good teams all season and i dont see why that changes here. Its in louisiana and lsu's def should slow down quinn and company.

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I do not know if it makes a difference on your bet but 4 players suspended for at least 1st quarter tonight for LSU.

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I'm going with the first Q over at 7.5 It seems Notre Dame's strength is offense and moving the ball. And their defense really hasn't stopped anyone of quality. So, barring any red zone turnovers, I like this bet. That being said, almost everything I have posted on this site in the last two weeks has lost so feel free to take the other side. :cry:

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I do not know if it makes a difference on your bet but 4 players suspended for at least 1st quarter tonight for LSU.

 

 

thanks for the info, but no big deal...

 

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -Four LSU players could be punished for violating team rules by having their playing time reduced in Wednesday night's Sugar Bowl, a university official said.

 

LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette did not release the names of the players prior to the game.

 

A source tied to the university, who did not want to be named because coach Les Miles had not yet discussed the matter publicly, identified the players as starting safety Jesse Daniels, kick returner and running back Trindon Holliday, and reserve linebackers Perry Riley and Kelvin Sheppard. He said the players missed curfew while in New Orleans.

 

Bonnette said the players "are being disciplined within the framework of the team and their playing time may be affected as a result of their actions."

 

He declined to discuss details of the violations, calling them "very minor in nature, but significant in the framework of the team."

 

SPORTSLINE

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I'm going with the first Q over at 7.5 It seems Notre Dame's strength is offense and moving the ball. And their defense really hasn't stopped anyone of quality. So, barring any red zone turnovers, I like this bet. That being said, almost everything I have posted on this site in the last two weeks has lost so feel free to take the other side. :cry:

 

 

who is offerring that?

 

Closest I have seen is 10.5 :cry:

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11-11 for bowls, I was on LSU all the way up til tonight. Changing my mind and taking UND +9, just a gut feeling.

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who is offerring that?

 

Closest I have seen is 10.5 :dunno:

 

I got it yesterday at sportsbook, at a +105 to boot.

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OK, so I reloaded my account with 20 units. And I am down to 6 remaining. Not betting tonight so I don't lose any more until at least the weekend.

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I got it yesterday at sportsbook, at a +105 to boot.

 

 

wow thats focked up on a game where O U is in the mid 50's

 

 

Good for you, hope you put some money on it :dunno:

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wow thats focked up on a game where O U is in the mid 50's

Good for you, hope you put some money on it :dunno:

 

I thought the number seemed a little out of whack. I had to go double check my pending wagers when you said it was 10.5 at other books. I guess the oddsmakers were infuenced by the slow starts and lots of unders in the bowl games so far. And then typically as gametime gets closer, the o/u numbers tend to increase. I put two units on it. So, the way my bowl season is going, 1st Q should end up 3-3 with at least one TD called back by penalty. :rolleyes:

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Isn't the Sugar Bowl in LSU's backyard? I think this is a huge advantage for LSU.

 

Tough to say. There are differing school' of thought about that. Some feel the home field is huge (LSU in the 04 championship game, Boise for years on the blue turf, USC this year though the Trojans had lost their last 2 games in the Rose Bowl). Others point to bowls being a reward for a team, and there's not much reward to staying at home (Georgia last year vs West Va, New Mexico this year on it's home field).

 

I posted earlier my pick of ND, largely because of Weis and the way dogs have performed this bowl season. As a guy that watched Miles for years, if there's anyone that can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, he's your man.

 

 

thanks for the info, but no big deal...

 

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -Four LSU players could be punished for violating team rules by having their playing time reduced in Wednesday night's Sugar Bowl, a university official said.

 

LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette did not release the names of the players prior to the game.

 

A source tied to the university, who did not want to be named because coach Les Miles had not yet discussed the matter publicly, identified the players as starting safety Jesse Daniels, kick returner and running back Trindon Holliday, and reserve linebackers Perry Riley and Kelvin Sheppard. He said the players missed curfew while in New Orleans.

 

Bonnette said the players "are being disciplined within the framework of the team and their playing time may be affected as a result of their actions."

 

He declined to discuss details of the violations, calling them "very minor in nature, but significant in the framework of the team."

 

SPORTSLINE

 

Starting safety sitting out the first half.

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Russell looks more like 7 feet!!

 

He's a big, big kid. That's not a Charles Barkley 6'6"; it's legit.

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