Can there be one focking time..

[jets24 6]

FOCK

 

 

I am so sick of the media, I wanna puke. Today's shootings are because of one focked up guy. That's it. It's not because of the lack of response by security. It's not because he was Asian. It's not because of gun control. It's because he was focked in the head. It can't be stopped. It can't be predicted. Bad things happen sometimes. All we can do is pray for the families who are grieving.

 

FOCK!

[Doyle Redland 0]

FOCK

I am so sick of the media, I wanna puke. Today's shootings are because of one focked up guy. That's it. It's not because of the lack of response by security. It's not because he was Asian. It's not because of gun control. It's because he was focked in the head. It can't be stopped. It can't be predicted. Bad things happen sometimes. All we can do is pray for the families who are grieving.

 

FOCK!

 

 

 

sincere question for ya. How does this logic, which I agree with by the way, not apply to the war on terrorism?

[Boz/BoFan 0]

sincere question for ya. How does this logic, which I agree with by the way, not apply to the war on terrorism?

This is a random psychotic isolated incident. The war on terror is against groups and now even political parties who have it in the charters of their organization to kill any non muslim, at any cost, for the rest of their lives, according to Allahs will. We know who they are. We can actually take measures to prevent it. And they actually tell us they want to kill us.

 

To compare the two is remarkably foolish.

[redtodd 7]

The questioning of the school not shutting down is a pretty weak one on the media's part. Who would have thought that the shooting in the dorms would lead to a blood bath in the class rooms hours after? I am sure they all thought the shooter fled.

 

This is no one's fault but the arsehole who was shooting the gun.

[DuckStupid 40]

It's only a matter of time before they start questioning the possibility that this guy was a terrorist.

[Uh-huh 0]

 

To compare the two is remarkably foolish.

You're foolish and prone to jump to conclusions based on no evidence. But we all knew that already.

 

HTH

 

Uh-huh

[RLLD 4,207]

What if the Rutgers womens basketball team were to go into the Duke Men's lacrosse locker room and gun them down, you just gotta wonder how that would go down.....

[Uh-huh 0]

It's only a matter of time before they start questioning the possibility that this guy was a terrorist.

Do we know he wasn't?

[jocstrap 8]

You can't secure a campus

You can't blame the president of the school

 

One person was heavily armed and backed with tons of ammo and there is no stopping that. This could happen in a mall, sporting event, public park, or anywhere. No one should be blamed. A tragety thats all.

[Boz/BoFan 0]

You're foolish and prone to jump to conclusions based on no evidence. But we all knew that already.

 

HTH

 

Uh-huh

 

You're right, the whole Al Qeada/Terrorist thing has not been properly vetted, we should all still be on the fence as to these guys intentions. Phucking loser.

[DuckStupid 40]

You can't secure a campus

You can't blame the president of the school

 

One person was heavily armed and backed with tons of ammo and there is no stopping that. This could happen in a mall, sporting event, public park, or anywhere. No one should be blamed. A tragety thats all.

 

yep, If they locked down the campus, he just waits or does it somewhere else ... It's a can't win situation. He was looking to take people out and it was going to happen somewhere, at sometime. Tragic, but this stupid sh!t they keep talking about wanting to blame the university for not acting appropriately is just ... stupid.

 

Do we know he wasn't?

 

No. HTH.

[Mephisto 15]

I blame Imus. And rap music.

[jets24 6]

sincere question for ya. How does this logic, which I agree with by the way, not apply to the war on terrorism?

 

 

Still waiting for the sincere question.

 

For somebody to compare the two and ask how this applies to war is beyond belief. It also tells me that I can't have a reasonable conversation with you about this.

[DuckStupid 40]

Geraldo on Fox news ... We found a website with some asian holding guns, we're not sure if it's him or not, but it could be.

[jets24 6]

Geraldo on Fox news ... We found a website with some asian holding guns, we're not sure if it's him or not, but it could be.

 

 

Unfockingreal

[jerryskids 6,759]

I tried to make this point in earlier threads. Our society's focking need to assign blame, find scapegoats, etc. in the event of any bad situation riles the shiot out of me. Newsflash: sometimes bad people do bad things. I am all in favor of looking at the situation and learning from it in the future. But the need to blame others, AAARRRRGGGHHH.

[DuckStupid 40]

I tried to make this point in earlier threads. Our society's focking need to assign blame, find scapegoats, etc. in the event of any bad situation riles the shiot out of me. Newsflash: sometimes bad people do bad things. I am all in favor of looking at the situation and learning from it in the future. But the need to blame others, AAARRRRGGGHHH.

 

Maybe if you were more important around here, we would have recognized your effort?

[Tarheel Boy 0]

sincere question for ya. How does this logic, which I agree with by the way, not apply to the war on terrorism?

 

Because events such as today are usually made with little preparation whereas with terrorism there is typically a lot of planning involved. I doubt the dude today woke up this morning and planned where he was going to start shooting people. In both instances sick minded focks are involved, but I don't think there's much of a comparison after that.

[Doyle Redland 0]

Still waiting for the sincere question.

 

For somebody to compare the two and ask how this applies to war is beyond belief. It also tells me that I can't have a reasonable conversation with you about this.

your original post implied, to me, any way, that you felt no course of action could effectively prevent these types of incidents. I feel the same thing applies to terrorism. there is simply no way that we, or anyone else is ever going to eradicate terrorism, as terrorism is nothing more than a tactic, not a single group or religion, just a tactic. Now that doesn't mean we simply ignore the threat, but throwing bodies and bombs at any one group that has employed terroristic tactics certainly won't work. In short, declaring war on terrorism with an end objective of eliminating it is as realistic as believing that tighter campus/ workplace security will rid us of ugly events such as VaTech.

[jets24 6]

your original post implied, to me, any way, that you felt no course of action could effectively prevent these types of incidents. I feel the same thing applies to terrorism. there is simply no way that we, or anyone else is ever going to eradicate terrorism, as terrorism is nothing more than a tactic, not a single group or religion, just a tactic. Now that doesn't mean we simply ignore the threat, but throwing bodies and bombs at any one group that has employed terroristic tactics certainly won't work. In short, declaring war on terrorism with an end objective of eliminating it is as realistic as believing that tighter campus/ workplace security will rid us of ugly events such as VaTech.

 

 

The fact that you can somehow twist these two events together is the problem. You and I are as far away as understanding each other as MDC is to being liked. Aint gonna happen.

[Groundhog 24]

This is easy.

 

We/Society/The Media seek to blame because we would like to believe that this incident, like other tragedies before it, were preventable. It makes us feel better; having seen this tragedy occur, we are now wiser for it and can prevent the next one from happening. That's the thinking anyway.

 

Sometimes these things are in fact preventable; but a lot of times they aren't. But a world in which tragedies are completely unpredictable is a world that society at large fears.

[wiffleball 4,789]

Focking Bush.

 

Biggest Terrorist attack? His watch.

 

Focking Bush.

 

Biggest School Shooting? His watch.

 

Focking Bush.

 

I blame Bush.

 

He's the one.

 

I blame Bush.

 

He's the guy.

 

I blame Bush.

 

It's his fault.

 

It's all his fault.

[davebg 0]

If we didn't have anyone to blame then there wouldn't be anyone to sue...and how un-American would that be?

[Sergeant Bri 0]

This is why we can't have nice tragedies around here.

[wiffleball 4,789]

Okay, I'll answer this seriously. - WTF:

 

While I wholly agree that our culture seems to be overly litigous and tends to immediately want to point the finger of blame in cases like this, there IS an upside.

 

 

After OKC, virtually every buidling in the country had giant concrete barriers put up around them - damn near overnight. God knows how many lives were saved by that. After Columbine, virtually every school in the country instantly had metal detectors, check points, secured campuses and see-through book bags. - God knows how many lives were saved from that. Every cop in the country learned what NOT to do from Columbine as part of their regular scenario training. After the Tylenol scare in the 80's, virtually ever GD thing has one of them annoying seals on it. - Annoying as hell, but it prevented this crap from happening again - and saved God knows how many lives.

 

There are many examples like this. Yeah, the lawsuits are ridiculous. Yeah, we tend to blame too early, too often. But I'll take that - If it means that organizations and individuals feel compelled to constantly upgrade their safety and security provisions. In many countries, they take safety and security for granted - they do little or nothing and if your loved one dies as a result of malfeasance - tough shiit.

 

I have absolutely no dobut that some good will come from the VT Massacre. Whether it's 'panic buttons' in the classrooms, remotely locking doors, better communication systems, better survellance systems - whatever it is, VT and many other campuses will be safer next year than they are today? Safe? No. Safer? Absolutely.

 

Is our system perfect? No. Are a lot of the comments in this thread accurate? Yep. But all in all, the whole ugly mess - the media, the lawyers, the public outcry - is a part of a process that ultimately makes us safer.

 

- And that ain't all bad.

[jets24 6]

Okay, I'll answer this seriously. - WTF:

 

While I wholly agree that our culture seems to be overly litigous and tends to immediately want to point the finger of blame in cases like this, there IS an upside.

After OKC, virtually every buidling in the country had giant concrete barriers put up around them - damn near overnight. God knows how many lives were saved by that. After Columbine, virtually every school in the country instantly had metal detectors, check points, secured campuses and see-through book bags. - God knows how many lives were saved from that. Every cop in the country learned what NOT to do from Columbine as part of their regular scenario training. After the Tylenol scare in the 80's, virtually ever GD thing has one of them annoying seals on it. - Annoying as hell, but it prevented this crap from happening again - and saved God knows how many lives.

 

There are many examples like this. Yeah, the lawsuits are ridiculous. Yeah, we tend to blame too early, too often. But I'll take that - If it means that organizations and individuals feel compelled to constantly upgrade their safety and security provisions. In many countries, they take safety and security for granted - they do little or nothing and if your loved one dies as a result of malfeasance - tough shiit.

 

I have absolutely no dobut that some good will come from the VT Massacre. Whether it's 'panic buttons' in the classrooms, remotely locking doors, better communication systems, better survellance systems - whatever it is, VT and many other campuses will be safer next year than they are today? Safe? No. Safer? Absolutely.

 

Is our system perfect? No. Are a lot of the comments in this thread accurate? Yep. But all in all, the whole ugly mess - the media, the lawyers, the public outcry - is a part of a process that ultimately makes us safer.

 

- And that ain't all bad.

 

 

I agree with everything you said. Well done. But there is a big difference between learning from our mistakes and assigning blame. The blame game is what I am upset about.