DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 good thing you did it over the weekend just look are your prize log, it's 25 per page. and calculate your percentage over 4 pages. i got 8/31 so about 25% it use to be 50%. so i don't think you can really farm anymore, like 200+ battles and increase ep and i'm #1 now with out beating jasieck a single time thanks drj never could've done it without you Yeah, I think they mustve realized that system wasn't going to work. Take a look at the pages around here: http://everwars.com/ewprizelogs.x?start=30125 And then the pages around here: http://everwars.com/ewprizelogs.x But the problem is, they can never actually fix things from what I notice on the boards. They always go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and break it the other way. I'm convinced that the reason it was so easy to get items for a short time is because some of the whine threads after the big update. And of course they realized they went overboard so now they have to completely gimp out everything. I've gone through 40 pages of the most recent awarded prizes, there was maybe 1 item that would help me. It was page after page of useless crap. 40 pages is what, 1000 prizes. I didn't see a single awesome heavy armor piece, a single great sword, more than 1 or 2 good amulets. And I know I'm buffed, so it's gonna be hard to improve, but they've basically made it impossible for anyone but the weakest guys to improve. I am probably somewhere around the 5th/6th most powerful character in the game. And it's going to be near impossible for anyone underneath to catch me, or for me to catch anyone above me. If they really wanna make this game cool, and make it a constant struggle for the top and endless fighting, they should make these items deteriorate and then find some middle ground in the item awards. Your Pristine Chest Piece becomes Polished. Then it becomes normal, tarnished, corroded, and then useless. Then you have to keep fighting to ensure you have good stuff, and the top guys would fluctuate based on who was most active and got the best items over xxx timeframe. Right now, good luck decking your character out as good as the top guys unless they alter the system such that everyone has to completely reequip. With what they've done now, there is about 0 incentive to fight. Might as well just refresh a bunch of screens and collect everpoints... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 I'm officially done with this game. The newest changes have completely ruined the game. I had my fun, the game was good for a couple weeks. enjoy all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 12, 2007 I'm officially done with this game. The newest changes have completely ruined the game. I had my fun, the game was good for a couple weeks. enjoy all. Please don't go, the drones need you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 DRJ, since you seem to be the pro at setting your attributes up can you give me your thoughts on which of the following jewelery I should use: Agility 10 Strength 10 Dexterity 9 Dextertiy 6 With none of them I would be: Armor: 172 Life:311 Magic:0 Agility:8 Strength:5 Intellect:4 Dexterity:15 Resists:9 Strength piece is a must - strength bonus is better than the agi/dex bonuses. After that, you gotta go with the agility 10, dex 9. You need a little more agility to induce misses than you currently have, dex is pretty solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 12, 2007 I'm officially done with this game. The newest changes have completely ruined the game. I had my fun, the game was good for a couple weeks. enjoy all. edjr quitting something? no................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 http://forums.everwars.com/showthread.php?t=672 Better not be everpoints Well, that blows. I guess I should have fought my way back up last night instead of trying to let the 44 everpoints ride. Either way, who cares....I have no incentive to anything but refresh screens anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 12, 2007 Strength piece is a must - strength bonus is better than the agi/dex bonuses. After that, you gotta go with the agility 10, dex 9. You need a little more agility to induce misses than you currently have, dex is pretty solid. Well, I'm currently using an 8 dex charm over a 5 str one should I swap those? And yes, I know my stuff sucks bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 Well, I'm currently using an 8 dex charm over a 5 str one should I swap those? And yes, I know my stuff sucks bad. I would say yes, Str seems more important than Dex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 edjr quitting something? no................ The game sucks now. I'm not going to sit there and hit refresh all day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 The game sucks now. I'm not going to sit there and hit refresh all day Yeah, that's kind of my take too... I guess they believe that people should fight their way up to the top and then just repeatedly battle the same 5 guys again and again. That's their idea of a game. And well, considering I know I can kick about everyone's asses except for about 3 and it's impossible for me to aquire anymore good items, that's not too fun. All I can do is just hit refresh every 10 minutes so I get more everpoints in the hopes that I'll find a needle in a haystack with one of them. Thrilling... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 Yeah, that's kind of my take too... I guess they believe that people should fight their way up to the top and then just repeatedly battle the same 5 guys again and again. That's their idea of a game. And well, considering I know I can kick about everyone's asses except for about 3 and it's impossible for me to aquire anymore good items, that's not too fun. All I can do is just hit refresh every 10 minutes so I get more everpoints in the hopes that I'll find a needle in a haystack with one of them. Thrilling... My problem is why not inact all the changes before they change the everpoints? and instead of skill points, why not get everpoints from battles too? If there was a way to sell my items I would be on there right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 12, 2007 My problem is why not inact all the changes before they change the everpoints? and instead of skill points, why not get everpoints from battles too? If there was a way to sell my items I would be on there right now. wait, what are you guys talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 My problem is why not inact all the changes before they change the everpoints? and instead of skill points, why not get everpoints from battles too? If there was a way to sell my items I would be on there right now. Well, you can sell items, you just can't get much for them. Eventually they'll make the store or whatver, and maybe that'll help. My problem is this - what do I do in this game anymore? It's entirely item based, the whole goal of the game is to stockpile cooler items than other people so you can kick their ass. Now that I can't get any items, what do I do? Just keep fighting dudes #3 - #8, who I know I can pummell, again and again and hope that a miracle happens and I get an item that makes me better able to fight dude #2 and #1? And what do I do if I get get said items? Just be #1 and beat up dude #2 all day long? Yeah, that's worth refreshing my screen an entire day over. There needs to be more to it, like a constant struggle to keep good equipment because all your stuff is corroding (like you would expect it would through battle). So there's some realistic chance of overtaking a guy that is sitting on the best of every piece that there is. And so there's a constant struggle among the top guys, who are always fighting to make sure they have good equipment or they will lose their rank... I guess what it amounts to is, I'm bored already. There's nothing left to do in this game, and clicking again and again and again knowing that there's really no chance whatsoever I'm going to get the 2 or 3 pieces I seek just isn't stimulating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 Well, you can sell items, you just can't get much for them. Eventually they'll make the store or whatver, and maybe that'll help. My problem is this - what do I do in this game anymore? It's entirely item based, the whole goal of the game is to stockpile cooler items than other people so you can kick their ass. Now that I can't get any items, what do I do? Just keep fighting dudes #3 - #8, who I know I can pummell, again and again and hope that a miracle happens and I get an item that makes me better able to fight dude #2 and #1? And what do I do if I get get said items? Just be #1 and beat up dude #2 all day long? Yeah, that's worth refreshing my screen an entire day over. There needs to be more to it, like a constant struggle to keep good equipment because all your stuff is corroding (like you would expect it would through battle). So there's some realistic chance of overtaking a guy that is sitting on the best of every piece that there is. And so there's a constant struggle among the top guys, who are always fighting to make sure they have good equipment or they will lose their rank... I guess what it amounts to is, I'm bored already. There's nothing left to do in this game, and clicking again and again and again knowing that there's really no chance whatsoever I'm going to get the 2 or 3 pieces I seek just isn't stimulating. I agree with you. But what do we want for free? Our money back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 I agree with you. But what do we want for free? Our money back No doubt. It does have some potential and it appears that they have some future plans that may improve it. But as is, it's pretty danged simplistic, and boring when played in its intended fashion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 239 Posted June 12, 2007 Well, you can sell items, you just can't get much for them. Eventually they'll make the store or whatver, and maybe that'll help. My problem is this - what do I do in this game anymore? It's entirely item based, the whole goal of the game is to stockpile cooler items than other people so you can kick their ass. Now that I can't get any items, what do I do? Just keep fighting dudes #3 - #8, who I know I can pummell, again and again and hope that a miracle happens and I get an item that makes me better able to fight dude #2 and #1? And what do I do if I get get said items? Just be #1 and beat up dude #2 all day long? Yeah, that's worth refreshing my screen an entire day over. There needs to be more to it, like a constant struggle to keep good equipment because all your stuff is corroding (like you would expect it would through battle). So there's some realistic chance of overtaking a guy that is sitting on the best of every piece that there is. And so there's a constant struggle among the top guys, who are always fighting to make sure they have good equipment or they will lose their rank... I guess what it amounts to is, I'm bored already. There's nothing left to do in this game, and clicking again and again and again knowing that there's really no chance whatsoever I'm going to get the 2 or 3 pieces I seek just isn't stimulating. Man I totally agreew with the items getting weaker over time. I think that would be a great tie in to the market idea. You could have your weapons, armor, etc repaired for a fee. I guess I am waiting to see how this market pans out. Hopefully they will have a better system for buying and selling items. I mean I have been getting rare items that would be kick azz for other guys, but I just can't use them. And what do I get for selling them? 15 EverPoints? but if you were to try to buy the exact same thing from the item shop, it would easily be over 300 EP's. So I guess I am on a wait and see type of status. BTW skill points as prizes blows donkey balls. It should be straight everpoints for buying skills as well as weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 12, 2007 Man I totally agreew with the items getting weaker over time. I think that would be a great tie in to the market idea. You could have your weapons, armor, etc repaired for a fee. I guess I am waiting to see how this market pans out. Hopefully they will have a better system for buying and selling items. I mean I have been getting rare items that would be kick azz for other guys, but I just can't use them. And what do I get for selling them? 15 EverPoints? but if you were to try to buy the exact same thing from the item shop, it would easily be over 300 EP's. So I guess I am on a wait and see type of status. BTW skill points as prizes blows donkey balls. It should be straight everpoints for buying skills as well as weapons. I totally agree except for the skill points. I think that skill points should still be awarded for Rank III and maybe even Rank II prizes. Just get rid of them for Rank I prizes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 12, 2007 There needs to be more to it, like a constant struggle to keep good equipment because all your stuff is corroding (like you would expect it would through battle). So there's some realistic chance of overtaking a guy that is sitting on the best of every piece that there is. And so there's a constant struggle among the top guys, who are always fighting to make sure they have good equipment or they will lose their rank... You should really post this on the suggestions page. It is a whole lot better than this suggestion they got: I think that the addition of pets to the game would make the game not only different, but very fun, because in addition to your main character, you would have sub characters (the pets) to manage and do other activities with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 12, 2007 You should really post this on the suggestions page. It is a whole lot better than this suggestion they got: Gave it a shot: http://forums.everwars.com/showthread.php?p=5051#post5051 They'd probably prefer adding pets. HA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 GR04 is a 3.5 and he attacked me and lost. I'm a 2.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted June 12, 2007 GR04 is a 3.5 and he attacked me and lost. I'm a 2.1 I attacked you at 50%. Now that you've brought this up, I'm going to keep attacking you until I have triple digit wins against you. ETA: Get used to seeing this: Giants Rule 04 has 174 life and -12 stamina leftedjr has 6 life and 49 stamina left Giants Rule 04 attacks using Celestrium Bastard Sword for 7 damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 12, 2007 I attacked you at 50%. Now that you've brought this up, I'm going to keep attacking you until I have triple digit wins against you. ETA: Get used to seeing this: I won't see it and you'll just slip further in the rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted June 13, 2007 Page 2 bump. Stat Check: Armor: 204Life: 332 Magic: 2 Agility: 10 Strength: 19 Intellect: 6 Dexterity: 11 Resists: 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 13, 2007 I'm officially done with this game. The newest changes have completely ruined the game. I had my fun, the game was good for a couple weeks. enjoy all. Rank Username Attack R/G Race Rating Won Lost Online Up/Dn 86 edjr Attack 1 Halfling 2.1 770 80 YES 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 13, 2007 I forgot to say "for the day" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted June 13, 2007 I forgot to say "for the day" Changing your mind now? 6 for one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 13, 2007 I'm going to run up my character's ranking and sell him on egay to some Everwars queer. And I won't leave him feedback until he leaves some for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted June 13, 2007 » » » You have 50 unclaimed prizes! « « « Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted June 13, 2007 » » » You have 50 unclaimed prizes! « « « The prizes are slowly sucking less and less. I just cashed in 45, and while I didn't get any rare items, I got 5 uncommon items. Nothing I kept or can use, but maybe they're evening it out and moving away from all skill points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 13, 2007 The prizes are slowly sucking less and less. I just cashed in 45, and while I didn't get any rare items, I got 5 uncommon items. Nothing I kept or can use, but maybe they're evening it out and moving away from all skill points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Nothing but skill points, and commons for me this morning. I have still yet to find any ultra-rare items, and I only have 2-3 rare items. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wyatt Earp 0 Posted June 13, 2007 No doubt. It does have some potential and it appears that they have some future plans that may improve it. But as is, it's pretty danged simplistic, and boring when played in its intended fashion. Just posted this in the forums over there... I'm f'n fed up with getting 1 f'n skill point.. and being discouraged from fighting for prize codes. What exactly is the point of the game for mid ranked players? Clearly the devs don’t like people farming, as the item frequency in prize codes has been adjusted to deter that. That’s all great and fine, but unless I’m missing something there are only two ways to get items. One, fight to get prize codes and two being do nothing until you have enough EPs to buy something in the shop.… and then hope the shop has the item you’re looking for. So if I’ve understood everything I’ve seen/read/heard on this site I should do one of the following: Log in as often as possible, click on random links (battle logs, character, forums, etc) basically anything but actually fighting more than once or twice a day. Just to keep building EPs up until I have a sufficient amount for a decent item in the shop. This also requires a fair amount of luck in the shop actually having an item you desire for sale. The problem here is it’s rather boring, if I wanted to wait around for a good sale I’d go sit in front of the mall. The other method would be to fight as often as possible, currently 30 times an hour at 100 percent, cashing in prize codes and keeping my fingers crossed that I get a decent item. Naturally you’d want to fight people you were pretty certain you could beat, since you’re looking for prize codes. You can call that farming if you want; I choose to call this choosing your opponent wisely being that the goal is to win. The problem here is out of the last 150 prize codes I cashed in 130 were skill points, and of the 20 items the best I got was a sword with damage of 8. Some great rank 1 prize codes there. Clearly the 130 skill points were an awesome prize, as I now have almost 700 extra skill points to do nothing with. So I’m left to wonder, what does one do if they actually want to improve their character? The dev team frowns on “farming” and I frown on sitting around collecting EPs. Despite my post, and likely tone, I actually enjoy the game. You guys have done a great job, it just seems that now there isn’t really much point to anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted June 13, 2007 I agree...I didn't play today. Probably won't bother anymore. Because beyond that, once you become powerful, there's no point in the game anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wyatt Earp 0 Posted June 13, 2007 I agree...I didn't play today. Probably won't bother anymore. Because beyond that, once you become powerful, there's no point in the game anymore. What, you mean you don't want to amass 10,000 extra skill points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 239 Posted June 14, 2007 What, you mean you don't want to amass 10,000 extra skill points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spottedowl 1 Posted June 14, 2007 Not fully reading this last page... sadly, I am with edjr. I quit because the game bores me to tears and I'm disappointed with the stagnent moves allowed. It was a fun time waster. Auf Wiedersehen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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edjr 6,592 Posted June 14, 2007 They have ruined this game for everyone. From the people ranked in the top 10 to the people that are just starting. How do you even get started? you start with nothing, so how the fock do you get skill points to increase skills? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted June 14, 2007 I just sold all my weapons and am equipping only spells I'm an Xtreme Mage! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrdirt73 0 Posted June 14, 2007 I just sold all my weapons and am equipping only spells I'm an Xtreme Mage! crepitus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites