Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 6, 2007 More dipshittery from Algore. Live Aid is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on? The Live Earth event is, in the words of one commentator: 'a massive, hypocritical fraud'. For while the organisers' commitment to save the planet is genuine, the very process of putting on such a vast event, with more than 150 performers jetting around the world to appear in concerts from Tokyo to Hamburg, is surely an exercise in hypocrisy on a grand scale. Matt Bellamy, front man of the rock band Muse, has dubbed it 'private jets for climate change'. A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army. The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher. The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations. Throw in the television audience and it comes to a staggering 74,500 tonnes. In comparison, the average Briton produces ten tonnes in a year. The concert will also generate some 1,025 tonnes of waste at the concert stadiums - much of which will go directly into landfill sites. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/fema...in_page_id=1879 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted July 6, 2007 But AlGore buys CARBON CREDITS...so it's ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 7, 2007 But AlGore buys CARBON CREDITS...so it's ok. Yep. looks like that Carbon Credit-Gettin Company Algore owns is in for a windfall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 7, 2007 Throw in the television audience and it comes to a staggering 74,500 tonnes. In comparison, the average Briton produces ten tonnes in a year. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/fema...in_page_id=1879 156 brittons have died in iraq to date, should we chalk that up to GWB doing his part for the evironment? this concert is about raising awareness that will lead to future gains, not gains today you dope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 7, 2007 Yeah, raising awareness so Algore can ca$h in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 8, 2007 Yeah, raising awareness so Algore can ca$h in. at least he's cashing in on something that will benefit us all, unlike cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers so that your cronies can make billions off profiteering and set you up with 6 figure speaking engagements for the rest of eternity. you are such a know nothing ass hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted July 8, 2007 If he wants to do something that will benefit the world, he can start by taking his loony friends over to China and India and get them to change their ways. He will be welcomed like a hero when he protests in China. After that I can think of a few things he can take care of in Africa. Then he can head over to Iran and North Korea, nuclear wars are probably bad things, he can do something about it. I have a few other ideas, but guilting Americans to cut back on energy usage is way down the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 8, 2007 If he wants to do something that will benefit the world, he can start by taking his loony friends over to China and India and get them to change their ways. He will be welcomed like a hero when he protests in China. After that I can think of a few things he can take care of in Africa. Then he can head over to Iran and North Korea, nuclear wars are probably bad things, he can do something about it. I have a few other ideas, but guilting Americans to cut back on energy usage is way down the list. so because his priorities aren't your priorities what he's doing has no meaning or purpose. self rightous much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted July 8, 2007 If he wants to do something that will benefit the world, he can start by taking his loony friends over to China and India and get them to change their ways. He will be welcomed like a hero when he protests in China. After that I can think of a few things he can take care of in Africa. Then he can head over to Iran and North Korea, nuclear wars are probably bad things, he can do something about it. I have a few other ideas, but guilting Americans to cut back on energy usage is way down the list. Al Gore is such a tool, and he doesn't even see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 8, 2007 at least he's cashing in on something that will benefit us all, unlike cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers so that your cronies can make billions off profiteering and set you up with 6 figure speaking engagements for the rest of eternity. you are such a know nothing ass hole. WTF are you babbling about you moron? Exactly how is Bush gonna cash in? You come up with speaking engagements? Yeah, that's a novel idea no other ex-President has had. Bush must be a genius to start a war that has driven his approval rating into the toilet so he will be in big demand on the speaking circuit after he leaves offfice. You really are focking stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CurlyNight's Ghost 0 Posted July 8, 2007 I'm going to use even more energy and stuff so my great great great great grandkids will suffer!@#@! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pingpong 0 Posted July 9, 2007 Nice reply...that took you a full day to come up with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted July 9, 2007 Nice reply...that took you a full day to come up with? No, it took about 5 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 9, 2007 WTF are you babbling about you moron? Exactly how is Bush gonna cash in? You come up with speaking engagements? Yeah, that's a novel idea no other ex-President has had. Bush must be a genius to start a war that has driven his approval rating into the toilet so he will be in big demand on the speaking circuit after he leaves offfice. You really are focking stupid. speaking engagements are not the point, bush has cashed in by riding their money to a life as former president (all be it the worst one in history) while Cheney and his haliburton cronies have ridden the wave to record profits. its great to be on the inside of this administration, more so than any administration in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 9, 2007 speaking engagements are not the point, bush has cashed in by riding their money to a life as former president (all be it the worst one in history) while Cheney and his haliburton cronies have ridden the wave to record profits. its great to be on the inside of this administration, more so than any administration in history. So when you claimed Bush was "cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers" by setting up 6 figure speaking engagements for eternity, speaking engagemens were not the point. The rest of your post goes down hill from there..............more mindless babbling. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted July 9, 2007 So when you claimed Bush was "cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers" by setting up 6 figure speaking engagements for eternity, speaking engagemens were not the point. The rest of your post goes down hill from there..............more mindless babbling. Nice job. I realize this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but I don't care. I have to ask you something. Seriously. How can you actually defend George Bush all the time but act like Al Gore is the devil, yet still sleep at night? I'm not saying Gore is exempt from criticism...........but your constant defense of GW, in seemingly every situation imaginable, is just amazing and appalling to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 9, 2007 I realize this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but I don't care. I have to ask you something. Seriously. How can you actually defend George Bush all the time but act like Al Gore is the devil, yet still sleep at night? I'm not saying Gore is exempt from criticism...........but your constant defense of GW is just amazing and appalling to me. I don't defend Bush "all the time". I have several issues I differ with Bush on. However, I will point out idiocy when it is posted here, so when you chime in with your "cashing in on 3000 deaths" drivel I will call you on it. And Algore is just using scare tactics and junk science to hawk his latest money making project. He did squat about GW while in office, and has done nothing since with the exception of using it to make himself rich. Okeedokee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indybearsfan 0 Posted July 9, 2007 So when you claimed Bush was "cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers" by setting up 6 figure speaking engagements for eternity, speaking engagemens were not the point. The rest of your post goes down hill from there..............more mindless babbling. Nice job. i used it as a blanket example of one of the many benefits he will receive on the backs of those that have died. my bad in assuming you understood complex thought. I should have expected as much from you, your simple mindedness apparently knows no bounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 19, 2007 i used it as a blanket example of one of the many benefits he will receive on the backs of those that have died. my bad in assuming you understood complex thought. I should have expected as much from you, your simple mindedness apparently knows no bounds. Get back to me when you can explain how soldier's deaths benefit Bush financially. Until then you are just mindlessly babbling Demwit talking points and attempting to pass it off as "complex thought". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boz/BoFan 0 Posted July 19, 2007 at least he's cashing in on something that will benefit us all, unlike cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers so that your cronies can make billions off profiteering and set you up with 6 figure speaking engagements for the rest of eternity. you are such a know nothing ass hole. Tell em IBF! I totally agree, we should've sat on our asses and waited for 5 or 6 more 9/11's just to get us silly slap d!ck Americans good and riled up.......then we make sure Iran, Al kyeeeeeedahh!, Hamas, and all the other pillars of humanity acquire nukes and THEN just maybe formulate a strategy to deal with them. We just jumped the gun, as history has shown us, the best thing to do is to go on defense, allow multiple attacks, and act very slowly.....its the recipe for instant success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID RUFFIN 2 Posted July 19, 2007 I don't defend Bush "all the time". I have several issues I differ with Bush on. However, I will point out idiocy when it is posted here, so when you chime in with your "cashing in on 3000 deaths" drivel I will call you on it. And Algore is just using scare tactics and junk science to hawk his latest money making project. He did squat about GW while in office, and has done nothing since with the exception of using it to make himself rich. Okeedokee. Name a couple of issues you differ with Bush on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uh-huh 0 Posted July 19, 2007 I don't defend Bush "all the time". I have several issues I differ with Bush on.Forgive us for doubting you on this one. They don't call you the Lemming for nothin'. However, I will point out idiocy when it is posted here, so when you chime in with your "cashing in on 3000 deaths" drivel I will call you on it.Will you start with all of your posts? And Algore is just using scare tactics and junk science to hawk his latest money making project. He did squat about GW while in office, and has done nothing since with the exception of using it to make himself rich. Al learned from Cheney, W and Pappy Bush's examples. P.S. Welcome back (not), lemming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID RUFFIN 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Name a couple of issues you differ with Bush on. That's what I thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 20, 2007 That's what I thought First time back to the bored since your other post, but congrats on patting yourself on the back. Here are a few: Immigration Prescription drug boondoggle. Spending in general Campaign finance "reform" Not bringing the hammer down harder on the ragheads in Iraq. There are others, but those are off the top of my head. hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uh-huh 0 Posted July 20, 2007 You have chosen to ignore all posts from: Recliner Pilot. · View this post · Un-ignore Recliner Pilot Hmm. Not every turd got flushed down the bowl. Pity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 20, 2007 For someone who ignores all my posts, you certainly have a hard time ignoring my posts. Moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,133 Posted July 20, 2007 The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher. The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations Yeah the performers and people attending would probably not be travelling in any capacity or creating any waste whatsoever. Get back to me when you can explain how soldier's deaths benefit Bush financially. Its not so much the deaths, its sending them in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 20, 2007 Its not so much the deaths, its sending them in the first place. So when you accuse Bush of: "cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers" .....you really meant just sending them there. Backtrack much? Ok, then explain how sending them their will make Bush richer when he leaves office. This should be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,133 Posted July 20, 2007 Live Aid is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on?The Live Earth event is, in the words of one commentator: 'a massive, hypocritical fraud'. or The Live Earth event is, in the words of some dude: For while the organisers' commitment to save the planet is genuine, the very process of putting on such a vast event, with more than 150 performers jetting around the world to appear in concerts from Tokyo to Hamburg, is surely an exercise in hypocrisy on a grand scale. Its nice that they acknowledge the geniune commitment. But they follow it up with 150 performers jetting around the world to appear in concerts is hypocrisy. Performers travel the world constantly to perform, in this case some awareness and dollars were hopefully raised. Matt Bellamy, front man of the rock band Muse, has dubbed it 'private jets for climate change'. Fair enough, I don't know who Matt Bellamy or Muse, I did just check out there website, and they are playing all over the world in the next few weeks. Biking there no doubt. A Daily Mail investigation has revealed that far from saving the planet, the extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army. A huge fuel bill, and acres of garbage, and thousands of tonnes of carbon emissions would occur on that day whether or not these concerts happened. That attention was paid to climate change is the difference. The use of extravaganza here and hypocrisy earlier are showing this to be a very slanted piece. The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world. The true environmental cost, as they transport their technicians, dancers and support staff, is likely to be far higher. I like the .63 miles part. It must be the most conservative assessment, they didn't even round up. The total carbon footprint of the event, taking into account the artists' and spectators' travel to the concert, and the energy consumption on the day, is likely to be at least 31,500 tonnes of carbon emissions, according to John Buckley of Carbonfootprint.com, who specialises in such calculations. The total carbon footprint "of the event" would be what the footprint for the day minus what it would have been had the event not happened. Sensationalizing for an agenga maybe. Throw in the television audience and it comes to a staggering 74,500 tonnes. In comparison, the average Briton produces ten tonnes in a year. I imagine that if the LiveEarth event had not happened that not one of the people that watched would have watched TV that day. The concert will also generate some 1,025 tonnes of waste at the concert stadiums - much of which will go directly into landfill sites. And the concert goers would not have produced any tonnes of waste had the not attended. Slanted half arsed piece. So when you accuse Bush of:"cashing in on the death of over 3000 good soldiers" .....you really meant just sending them there. Backtrack much? Ok, then explain how sending them their will make Bush richer when he leaves office. This should be good. I didn't accuse Bush of that, and therefore wasn't backtracking. Wow, I am a little bored today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 20, 2007 the truth about the hypocrisy of this concert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 21, 2007 I didn't accuse Bush of that, and therefore wasn't backtracking. I stand corrected, it was someone else. However, you still have not explained how sending troops to Iraq is gonna make Bush richer after he leaves office. Got anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites