vetoable, dumb or makin too much of it

[Guest RenoZ]

400 morons in the world and their KING is right here in our presence!!

 

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Right now it's 8:1 against the deal, with 3 people saying (unsolicited) that it's bad enough that something is seriously wrong with it/collusion.

I'm sure that now that I've posted about it the results will be skewed by DankNuggs and his 5 aliases voting it up the other way, but I find it very amusing that one of the more vocal people against the veto of this deal has

 

Well that should settle this once and for all.

 

You need to win this debate so badly that you're making a poll that really isn't all that relevant to the whole discussion/topic. You crack me up.

 

I don't think anyone here (well I know I didn't) said they would chose the Caddy/Kennison over Jacobs/Johnson, just that its at least debateable that some one would. Which side one would take in the trade is really not the point. The guy who made the trade apparently takes the Caddy side and that's all that really matters and that's all that anyone is really arguing.

 

Of course some have said that Kennison is an underrated WR and is at least on the same planet as Johnson, but only to show the trade is not vetoable.

 

Here you win , now I can see how desperately you need it for your mental state.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

OMFG...the 2_cent_hooker got TORE UP by the Newbs on the Help Bored too.

 

I seriously cannot stop laughing!!!! Oops, I think I just pissed my pants a little.

 

Four total people made reference to a veto and the results were 1 Veto and 3 NO Veto.

 

Problem is...the one guy that voted for it was rdrs4life focking with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

it's 12:1 right now, liar.

[Guest RenoZ]

it's 12:1 right now, liar.

 

Did you read my post, fockface? Here, I'll copy/paste it for you so you don't have to strain your neck looking up:

 

"Four total people made reference to a veto and the results were 1 Veto and 3 NO Veto.

 

Problem is...the one guy that voted for it was rdrs4life focking with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Well that should settle this once and for all.

It wasn't intended to. nice projection, but the only purpose was to either validate or discredit the suggestion that something has happened in the 4 weeks subsequent to the draft so as to make this a fair or even trade - the suggestion proposed by the "no veto" crowd.

 

Why would you have any issue with that? It was presented neutrally - oh, wait - I know....because it shows that y'all are reaching and that your justification is invalid. I get it. Had the poll results been against me you would have all embraced them wholeheartedly and lashed out at me for being wrong. I get it.

 

You need to win this debate so badly that you're making a poll that really isn't all that relevant to the whole discussion/topic. You crack me up.

I don't need to "win" anything and I don't think it's even something that can be won - we all have our opinions. I was looking for "topic neutral" feedback/input on the valuation of the players in the deal since so many have made the comment about their valuation. How is that not relevant? You must have some sort of comprehension issue.

 

I don't think anyone here (well I know I didn't) said they would chose the Caddy/Kennison over Jacobs/Johnson, just that its at least debateable that some one would. Which side one would take in the trade is really not the point. The guy who made the trade apparently takes the Caddy side and that's all that really matters and that's all that anyone is really arguing.

Ah....nice spin. So now it's not debatable that they're not valued equally, yet all anyone on the "no veto" side has been saying in defense of the deal is that they could be considered of equal value. Way to flip flop at your own convenience. At least I've been consistent through this topic. Also the question was what's changed in the month since the deal since that's the other "no veto" argument.

 

Taking issue with someone collecting unbiased opinion on the supporting argument y'al have been presenting simply shows how flimsy the arguments are in my opinion. If you were strong in your convictions, you'd have embraced that poll 100% because it would serve to validate/support your supporting argument. Rejecting the poll and insulting me for posting it shows pretty clearly that you know you're in the wrong and lashing out for the proof of it.

 

Of course some have said that Kennison is an underrated WR and is at least on the same planet as Johnson, but only to show the trade is not vetoable.

 

Here you win , now I can see how desperately you need it for your mental state.

 

Sorry - my post was in a neutral tone and intended only to add something to either support or dispute the claims that in the 4 weeks since the draft enough has changed to value Caddy/Kennison equally or close to jacobs/AJ. The desperation appears to be with those who's supporting arguments the poll results contradict.

 

I posted that knowing that one of two results could have occurred - I was prepared to have been made to look foolish from those poll results, yet here the "no veto" side sure seems to be up in arms because it worked out against them. Imagine that.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

400 morons in the world and their KING is right here in our presence!!

 

Did you read my post, fockface?

 

 

 

 

And here's yet another example of your childish, immature and antagonistic name-calling.

 

Do you feel personal attacks help you to gain credibility or respect on these forums? Does playing the internet tough guy make you feel better about your tiny peemus or something?

 

Surely you are compensating for something - lack of intellect, or an inferiority complex or getting beat up a lot in school....but I'm not here to evaluate you personally...I'l just keep pointing out every time you resort to this childish behaviour.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

It wasn't intended to. nice projection, but the only purpose was to either validate or discredit the suggestion that something has happened in the 4 weeks subsequent to the draft so as to make this a fair or even trade - the suggestion proposed by the "no veto" crowd.

 

Why would you have any issue with that? It was presented neutrally - oh, wait - I know....because it shows that y'all are reaching and that your justification is invalid. I get it. Had the poll results been against me you would have all embraced them wholeheartedly and lashed out at me for being wrong. I get it.

I don't need to "win" anything and I don't think it's even something that can be won - we all have our opinions. I was looking for "topic neutral" feedback/input on the valuation of the players in the deal since so many have made the comment about their valuation. How is that not relevant? You must have some sort of comprehension issue.

Ah....nice spin. So now it's not debatable that they're not valued equally, yet all anyone on the "no veto" side has been saying in defense of the deal is that they could be considered of equal value. Way to flip flop at your own convenience. At least I've been consistent through this topic. Also the question was what's changed in the month since the deal since that's the other "no veto" argument.

 

Taking issue with someone collecting unbiased opinion on the supporting argument y'al have been presenting simply shows how flimsy the arguments are in my opinion. If you were strong in your convictions, you'd have embraced that poll 100% because it would serve to validate/support your supporting argument. Rejecting the poll and insulting me for posting it shows pretty clearly that you know you're in the wrong and lashing out for the proof of it.

Sorry - my post was in a neutral tone and intended only to add something to either support or dispute the claims that in the 4 weeks since the draft enough has changed to value Caddy/Kennison equally or close to jacobs/AJ. The desperation appears to be with those who's supporting arguments the poll results contradict.

 

I posted that knowing that one of two results could have occurred - I was prepared to have been made to look foolish from those poll results, yet here the "no veto" side sure seems to be up in arms because it worked out against them. Imagine that.

 

 

Please go back and re-read this thread, you are so wrong about everything you say here. No one said it's a good trade. In fact many times I said I wouldn't do it and that I like AJ much better than Kennison.

 

In fact I didn't see one person that was "against a veto" saying it was a fair deal, only that a commsioner or other league members shouldn't enfore their will or player evaluations on another league memeber. Any attempt to justify the players involved was only there to show what a person might be thinking and why the trade wasn't so lopsided that it was automatically collusion.

 

Seriously go back and check.

[Jimmy 0]

it's 12:1 right now, liar.

 

Dude, your poll is ridiculous. NOONE in this thread is saying it's a "good" trade. The whole argument is that it doesn't require heavy-handed vetoing. Unsolicited, in that thread, people are saying it's a bad trade, but not worthy of a veto. The way you biasedly presented it, you're going to be able to bring back a bunch of misrepresented statistics. But, in the body of your own thread you're having to defend yourself to a whole new group of people.

 

You brought up some valid points early on, now you're desperately clinging to the same tired arguments that have been contractdicted by multiple people, multiple times. And while I find it unfortunate that some of the people are attacking you in the process, I'm completely understanding why they keep accusing you of spinning things.

[doughboys_2002 11]

Team A trades: Jacobs and An. Johnson

Team B trades: Caddy and Kennison

 

Looks bad right? but vetoable? doesn't look like collusion from owners

 

thoughts?

 

I think it is an stupid trade. I really don't see and advantage for either person. Kind one hand washing the other. You have an unproven RB in Jacobs, and Johnson is playing for a unproven QB. Neither has ever been a full time starter. Then you have Caddy, who had an off year last year, and really is still an unproven commodity, and Kennison, well look at the KC QB situation that explains everything. I think it is more laughable then anything else

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Sorry - my post was in a neutral tone and intended only to add something to either support or dispute the claims that in the 4 weeks since the draft enough has changed to value Caddy/Kennison equally or close to jacobs/AJ. The desperation appears to be with those who's supporting arguments the poll results contradict.

 

Really? How can a poll that asks the poll taker to choose one choice or the other determine if those people think the gap between the two choices is so great. It simply shows a preference for one of the choices, nothing more.

 

You really can't believe this direction you are now taking this can you?

 

Who said it was a fair trade? People only said that you have no right to veto it.

[jeffkomlo 19]

ITS OVER!

 

Trade went through with 3 votes against.

Time will tell if it was a good deal.

Life goes on - let the season begin

 

thanks,

2cents

Octopus

Phillybear (we will face each other in the "no hassle league")

Reno

Lambert

CMH

USMC

Killersquids

patsfanatic

and anyone I left out

 

.......................................and they lived happily ever after.

 

THE END?

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Dude, your poll is ridiculous. NOONE in this thread is saying it's a "good" trade. The whole argument is that it doesn't require heavy-handed vetoing. Unsolicited, in that thread, people are saying it's a bad trade, but not worthy of a veto. The way you biasedly presented it, you're going to be able to bring back a bunch of misrepresented statistics. But, in the body of your own thread you're having to defend yourself to a whole new group of people.

 

You brought up some valid points early on, now you're desperately clinging to the same tired arguments that have been contractdicted by multiple people, multiple times. And while I find it unfortunate that some of the people are attacking you in the process, I'm completely understanding why they keep accusing you of spinning things.

 

Seriously, this thread is really take a turn towards bizzaro world.

[hitman29 0]

I LOVE this thread! I have to go pick up my son and get dinner ready, take a shower and get him to bed. But whatever you guys do, DON'T LET THIS THREAD DIE! I'm going to need a few laughs tonight after a long day. Thanks.

[Blaneyfan 0]

ITS OVER!

 

Trade went through with 3 votes against.

Time will tell if it was a good deal.

Life goes on - let the season begin

 

thanks,

2cents

Octopus

Phillybear (we will face each other in the "no hassle league")

Reno

Lambert

CMH

USMC

Killersquids

patsfanatic

and anyone I left out

 

.......................................and they lived happily ever after.

 

THE END?

 

Good for you man, you made the right choice and so did the other owners that didn't vote to veto!

[Dr. Octopus 0]

ITS OVER!

 

Trade went through with 3 votes against.

Time will tell if it was a good deal.

Life goes on - let the season begin

 

thanks,

2cents

Octopus

Phillybear (we will face each other in the "no hassle league")

Reno

Lambert

CMH

USMC

Killersquids

patsfanatic

and anyone I left out

 

.......................................and they lived happily ever after.

 

THE END?

 

2 cents will be very disappointed to hear that. Maybe he can speak to your league and convince them they are all morons and the season is over.

[jeffkomlo 19]

I LOVE this thread! I have to go pick up my son and get dinner ready, take a shower and get him to bed. But whatever you guys do, DON'T LET THIS THREAD DIE! I'm going to need a few laughs tonight after a long day. Thanks.

 

When the next trade comes up you'll be the 1st to know!

[usmcwar85 0]

415 posts later HAHA...glad i left this thing before it hit 200...

[kwhiz73 0]

ITS OVER!

 

Trade went through with 3 votes against.

Time will tell if it was a good deal.

Life goes on - let the season begin

 

thanks,

2cents

Octopus

Phillybear (we will face each other in the "no hassle league")

Reno

Lambert

CMH

USMC

Killersquids

patsfanatic

and anyone I left out

 

.......................................and they lived happily ever after.

 

THE END?

 

right call--good job commish. At least the majority of players in your league are level headed.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

2 cents will be very disappointed to hear that. Maybe he can speak to your league and convince them they are all morons and the season is over.

 

i actually couldn't care less. I find it amusing that so many of you have belittled, harranged and baited me repeatedly though simply for presenting an alternate point of view on the matter. Personal attacks have been standard fare and for what - because I dared to suggest that a trade of somoene's 3/4 for someone's 6/15 isn't fair or equitable, and that for the good of the league I would veto IF the vote of the league called for a decision, and IF I couldn't get justifcation from the owners.

 

You folks spin and spin and spin and the net result is still the same: You either believe that a trade where there is no collusion can be vetoed or you believe that a trade can only be vetoed with no collusion.

 

That is the fundamental difference of opinion and I'd like to point out that through 11 pages of this discussion I have had the class and dignitty to make my points without calling anyone names. I have respecfully responded to any and all challenges, and even in the face of being attacked with childish name calling and malicious projection of my beliefs have responded civily to those who would prefer to antagonize.

 

Regardless of the content of this topic, I want to say that I find it somewhat pathetic that people cannot have a difference of opinion without resorting to those kinds of tactics. It's truly shameful and it makes many of you look really, really bad as human beings, topic aside.

 

On topic, I still believe what I believe - the poll I posted on the help forum was intended only to address one thing: whether the valuation has changed on those players since the intial draft. It was not, as has been suggested, intended to be any sort of proof that it should be vetoed, nor was it intended to speak to collusion or no collusion (even though some brought that up, I was right there to correct them)

 

This was a point that's been beaten into the ground by the "no veto" crowd agan and again - that player valuation changes, the draft was a month ago, etc, etc, etc. I have maintained throughout that while I agree that value changes, it doesn't change that much. But the "no veto" crowd maintained that valuation changes so much so as to serve as justification for why you would allow a 3/4 for a 6/15 deal. Thus I was seeking some neutral validation of that. As stated: that poll could just as easily have gone against me. And had it done so I am 100% certain that every single one of you would have been right here to jump down my throat calling me names and using the poll as proof of what an idiot I am. I also knew that this would be the result if it showed that the vast majority consider the valuation completely lopsided. (10:1 at the time I posted the link)

 

So it is with great satisfaction that I see the bevy of responses from you all here, continuing to insult me, calling the poll dumb, projecting intent that isn't there and generally making asses out of yourselves. Satisfying only because it was entirely predictable. Really what it shows is a sad statement about some of your inability to have a civil debate and showing the ugliest side of your natutre: when you disagree with someone.

 

How sad for you that everyone in the world doesn't agree with you - must be hard to attack that many people.

[mobb_deep 920]

tl;dr

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

ITS OVER!

 

Trade went through with 3 votes against.

Time will tell if it was a good deal.

Life goes on - let the season begin

 

thanks,

2cents

Octopus

Phillybear (we will face each other in the "no hassle league")

Reno

Lambert

CMH

USMC

Killersquids

patsfanatic

and anyone I left out

 

.......................................and they lived happily ever after.

 

THE END?

 

Glad it worked out for your league. I will be interested in hearing how this season ends for those two teams, and how the league is affected by such a trade. It certainly sets an interesting precident for future transactions.

 

Please also keep us informed about the 3 dissenters and how they handle this as the season goes forward.

 

But honestly since i have no vested interest in your specific deal I am glad that all parties are satisfied - it went up to league vote and so the commish didn't have to make a decision. If the vote failed and the commish had to make the call I'd have respected whichever call he made.

 

I've offered the hypotheticals for how I'd handle it IF the league voted it down, and have been thoroughly blasted for it - that's fine. None of those people play in my league and my league's been entirely satisfied with me as commish. But in your case it didn't go that far and it's a good thing for your commish to not have to be put into that position.

 

When it comes down to it, as someone fairly neutral suggested 6 pages or so ago, if it did come to a commissioner vote and the folks here ripping me to shreds had to be in the position to decide, many of them wouldn't be as ballsy as they can be when it's on a message board and they aren't responsible for sh!t. Many simply seem to hate commissioners in general, and hey - that's their right I suppose. It's just amazing the lack of respect and civility some would show another just for disagreeing with a hypothetical situation.

 

Hell, one guy psychoanalized me for using big words. Wow.

 

This will be my last post on this topic, as I'm sure many of you will appreciate. and FYI, i love that I had so much opportunity to receive responses from both RenoZ and DankNuggs. I may post one more time just to capture every name-calling and insult that they heaped on myself and others from their very first "contributions" here just to marvel at how an actual human being was raised. Your parents must weep at the very thought of how their child turned out.

[mobb_deep 920]

This will be my last post on this topic, as I'm sure many of you will appreciate.

 

 

I didn't even read this thread and you're annoying me.

[Guest RenoZ]

 

I didn't even read this thread and you're annoying me.

 

Fock - you should have spent three days with him.

[doughboys_2002 11]

i actually couldn't care less. I find it amusing that so many of you have belittled, harranged and baited me repeatedly though simply for presenting an alternate point of view on the matter. Personal attacks have been standard fare and for what - because I dared to suggest that a trade of somoene's 3/4 for someone's 6/15 isn't fair or equitable, and that for the good of the league I would veto IF the vote of the league called for a decision, and IF I couldn't get justifcation from the owners.

 

You folks spin and spin and spin and the net result is still the same: You either believe that a trade where there is no collusion can be vetoed or you believe that a trade can only be vetoed with no collusion.

 

That is the fundamental difference of opinion and I'd like to point out that through 11 pages of this discussion I have had the class and dignitty to make my points without calling anyone names. I have respecfully responded to any and all challenges, and even in the face of being attacked with childish name calling and malicious projection of my beliefs have responded civily to those who would prefer to antagonize.

 

Regardless of the content of this topic, I want to say that I find it somewhat pathetic that people cannot have a difference of opinion without resorting to those kinds of tactics. It's truly sameful and it makes many of you look really, really bad as human beings, topic aside.

 

On topic, I still believe what I believe - the poll I posted on the help forum was intended only to address one thing: whether the valuation has changed on those players since the intial draft. It was not, as has been suggested, intended to be any sort of proof that it should be vetoed, nor was it intended to speak to collusion or no collusion (even though some brought that up, I was right there to correct them)

 

This was a point that's been beaten into the ground by the "no veto" crowd agan and again - that player valuation changes, the draft was a month ago, etc, etc, etc. I have maintained throughout that while I agree that value changes, it doesn't change that much. But the "no veto" crowd maintained that valuation changes so much so as to serve as justification for why you would allow a 3/4 for a 6/15 deal. Thus I was seeking some neutral validation of that. As stated: that poll could just as easily have gone against me. And had it done so I am 100% certain that every single one of you would have been right here to jump down my throat calling me names and using the poll as proof of what an idiot I am. I also knew that this would be the result if it showed that the vast majority consider the valuation completely lopsided.

 

So it is with great satisfaction that I see the bevy of responses from you all here, continuing to insult me, calling the poll dumb, projecting intent that isn't there and generally making asses out of yourselves. Satisfying only because it was entirely predictable. Really what it shows is a sad statement about some of your inability to have a civil debate and showing the ugliest side of your natutre: when you disagree with someone.

 

How sad for you that everyone in the world doesn't agree with you - must be hard to attack that many people.

 

I am sorry, but reading this, alothough I previously posted once stating: "I think it is an stupid trade. I really don't see and advantage for either person. Kind one hand washing the other. You have an unproven RB in Jacobs, and Johnson is playing for a unproven QB. Neither has ever been a full time starter. Then you have Caddy, who had an off year last year, and really is still an unproven commodity, and Kennison, well look at the KC QB situation that explains everything. I think it is more laughable then anything else."

 

I find your comments very much the same as you are accusing everyone else. I have put in bold a few comments of interest. You my friend are no better then those you are accusing. You have over 700 post on this board, and in doing so you should know the results you will get, however maybe next time you will accept the opposing opinion with respect and dignity, at least for the sake of those that show you the same.

 

I also wanted to state that it does not always matter where people are drafted, half the members of this website have stories of draft happy people that have no idea what they are doing and draft crazy. I have had the same experiance this year.

 

SO before you type a message to complain about people, make sure to target the specific group, and don't be a hypocrite!

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Fock - you should have spent three days with him.

 

yet another profane and insulting post. Whyan I not shocked in the slightest?

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

I find your comments very much the same as you are accusing everyone else. I have put in bold a few comments of interest. You my friend are no better then those you are accusing. You have over 700 post on this board, and in doing so you should know the results you will get, however maybe next time you will accept the opposing opinion with respect and dignity, at least for the sake of those that show you the same.

 

...

SO before you type a message to complain about people, make sure to target the specific group, and don't be a hypocrite!

 

Note that I chose to respond to those insulting members once, in general terms, and only after the topic was resolved - but was perfectly civil towards all, regardless of their opinion during the discussion. Post after post of name calling and baiting and I merely bit my tongue and defended my standpoint.

 

so simply put you're preaching to the choir and iterating something that I in fact did through 11 pages of their nonsense. I was as respectful as possible and was not treated with any except by a very few members.

 

 

Thus no hypocricy at all, but thanks for your touching concern. Perhaps your time would be better spent instructing the insulting people in here who spent 11 pages using profanity and name-calling as their MO.

[doughboys_2002 11]

Note that I chose to respond to those insulting members after the topic was resolved - but was perfectly civil towards all, regardless of their opinion during the discussion.

 

Thus no hypocracy at all, but thanks for your touching concern.

Maybe you should check out what I highlighted on your post, then tell me you were being a hypocrit.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Maybe you should check out what I highlighted on your post, then tell me you were being a hypocrit.

 

maybe you should develop a basic understanding of a timeline.

 

Seems like you're the one being a hypocrite since you haven't addressed anyone who's been name-calling through this topic, yet spent all this time "calling me out" for pointing it out at the very end.

 

In maintaining my MO of not calling people names in here I will simply add you to my short list of those who are so asinine as to no longer be deemed worthy of a response at FFT.

[doughboys_2002 11]

maybe you should develop a basic understanding of a timeline.

 

Seems like you're the one being a hypocrite since you haven't addressed anyone who's been name-calling through this topic, yet spent all this time "calling me out" for pointing it out at the very end.

 

In maintaining my MO of not calling people names in here I will simply add you to my short list of those who are so asinine as to no longer be deemed worthy of a response at FFT.

Because I heven't read anyone else trying to sound like they are better then anyone else for not name calling, then call people names in the next sentance. So you can take your childesh , I'm gonna take my ball and go home, behavior and go home. You are a pompas a$$, and your post is just as insulting to those people that insulted you. You want to be a b!tch then be one, you are worse then those that blantently call you an a$$, cause you are trying to put a front on it. So go take your ball, shove it up your fat a$$.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

This was a point that's been beaten into the ground by the "no veto" crowd agan and again - that player valuation changes, the draft was a month ago, etc, etc, etc. I have maintained throughout that while I agree that value changes, it doesn't change that much. But the "no veto" crowd maintained that valuation changes so much so as to serve as justification for why you would allow a 3/4 for a 6/15 deal. Thus I was seeking some neutral validation of that. As stated: that poll could just as easily have gone against me. And had it done so I am 100% certain that every single one of you would have been right here to jump down my throat calling me names and using the poll as proof of what an idiot I am. I also knew that this would be the result if it showed that the vast majority consider the valuation completely lopsided. (10:1 at the time I posted the link)

 

 

You really should go back an re-read, you're so self-righteous. The "player valuation" aspect was a very minor point in showing a plausible reason other than collusion to justify the trade. It merely explained why some one might make that trade and be happy about it. Everyone sees that except for you, but we're the ones that are wrong though, right? You showed us.

 

You play the victim really well. Yeah everyone is gaining up on poor scooter, why he is so innocent.

 

P.S. I never personally insulted you until you really went off the deep end and basically twisted the whole intent of the thread and the arguments of the "no veto" contingent and placed a ridiculous poll to prove you're point (that everyone sees through). And even then it was a minor throw away taunt.

 

I repeat, when you have time go back and re-read this posts and you'll see just how wrong you are.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

So you can take your childesh , I'm gonna take my ball and go home, behavior and go home. You are a pompas a$$, and your post is just as insulting to those people that insulted you. You want to be a b!tch then be one, you are worse then those that blantently call you an a$$, cause you are trying to put a front on it. So go take your ball, shove it up your fat a$$.

You give as you get - I offered an overall opinion about those in here who failed to treat me with respect after I treated them so. but nice of you to show your true colors there Mr Concerned Citizen.

 

I think you should hook up with RenoZ and DankNuggs (uh, they're the same guy, btw) - y'all would get along famously with that garbage mouth of yours.

 

Oh, and spellcheck: look into it.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

This will be my last post on this topic,

 

Did anyone really beleive this?

[doughboys_2002 11]

You give as you get - I offered an overall opinion about those in here who failed to treat me with respect after I treated them so. but nice of you to show your true colors there Mr Concerned Citizen.

 

I think you should hook up with RenoZ and DankNuggs (uh, they're the same guy, btw) - y'all would get along famously with that garbage mouth of yours.

 

Oh, and spellcheck: look into it.

Do you really think I care about my spelling, I never claimed to be a "Concerned Citizen" and I am a real man so yes I have a "garbage mouth", kind of entitled to that. Why don't you take your pathetic attempt at being a better person and try to sell it to the Fantasy Softball website, the chicks might dig it over there, that is if you are into that kinda thing.

[mobb_deep 920]

You play the victim really well. Yeah everyone is ganging up on poor _my_2_cents_, why he is so innocent.

 

fixed

 

This will be my last post on this topic, as I'm sure many of you will appreciate.

 

There goes that idea...

 

Seriously man, learn when to shut up. You're just feeding into these guys. I know you're a noob around here, but you seem pretty intelligent. Surely you can see that these guys are just winding you up. In most arguments there's never a winner or a loser. Both parties usually end up looking like douchebags. Take it from someone with plenty of experience in the field.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

You really should go back an re-read, you're so self-righteous. The "player valuation" aspect was a very minor point in showing a plausible reason other than collusion to justify the trade. It merely explained why some one might make that trade and be happy about it. Everyone sees that except for you, but we're the ones that are wrong though, right? You showed us.

 

You play the victim really well. Yeah everyone is gaining up on poor scooter, why he is so innocent.

 

P.S. I never personally insulted you until you really went off the deep end and basically twisted the whole intent of the thread and the arguments of the "no veto" contingent and placed a ridiculous poll to prove you're point (that everyone sees through). And even then it was a minor throw away taunt.

 

I repeat, when you have time go back and re-read this posts and you'll see just how wrong you are.

 

funny, because that wasn't my intent at all. I've actually explicitly told you what my intent was, "skippy" or "slurper" or whatever name I'll start calling you....my handle is _my_2_cents_ - learn to use it - name calling is just inappropriate, as I've been pointing out.

 

but that's ok - you go on and assume whatever motivation you like. Clearly that's your style. I will now officially never open this topic again. I made my points without once calling anyone a name through 10.5 pages of this topic and was met with hostility and insults. You included. if you all want to act like 5th graders and gang up on anyone you disagree with, that's on you, not me. And hey - good luck with that - I'm sure y'all will get far in life with that close minded attitude.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

and I am a real man

 

funny - I pictured you in drag.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Seriously man, learn when to shut up. You're just feeding into these guys. I know you're a noob around here, but you seem pretty intelligent. Surely you can see that these guys are just winding you up. In most arguments there's never a winner or a loser. Both parties usually end up looking like douchebags. Take it from someone with plenty of experience in the field.

 

you know, you're right. Like I said - I'm done in here. I made it through 10+ pages without taking their bait, so why should I now?

 

Excellent point, and thank you for helping me back from the dark side.

[doughboys_2002 11]

funny - I pictured you in drag.

Thats cause you wish I was in drag....Also funny coming from a guy that is above insult....

[Dr. Octopus 0]

funny, because that wasn't my intent at all. I've actually explicitly told you what my intent was, "skippy" or "slurper" or whatever name I'll start calling you....my handle is _my_2_cents_ - learn to use it - name calling is just inappropriate, as I've been pointing out.

 

deny deny deny

[jeffkomlo 19]

Keep it going fellers...........

 

Attempting to win the longest (albeit "dumbest) post award.

 

Thank you for your continued cooperation.