Lendale White

[LittleGiants78 0]

With the unkown entity in Chris Henry and the injury prone Chris Brown- Is Lendale White a guy with any upside?

[nategraduates 0]

I'd wait a couple more weeks, but this guy looks like he is getting some carries and the goal line stuff.

Not definitive, scout him out for a couple more games to really see.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You never know.

He has the upside in that it seems no matter what Brown does, the team wants White to be the starter.

Brown looked very good in preseason...and great in week 1. He gets rewarded for that by White taking most of the carries and getting the start against Indy.

 

Will this be a different guy getting the majority of the carries every week though? Not sure.

Fisher loves to run the ball. I think he likes that he has 2 backs he can keep running and running and running if its working. And with that line, it should work for a good part of the year.

[Ricky's Swami 0]

All offseason and preseason I watched TEN closely hoping to figure out who their main RB would be because I knew their OL was going to continue to be a very good with the running attack. Not to dismiss what Travis Henry did but the TEN OL is very underrated and having VY back there also keeps defenses honest.

 

That said, I kept reading nuggets where one could tell that Fischer and Chow liked LenWhale the best out of the RBs and wanted him to succeed. This is despite spending the 2nd on Chris Henry. Speaking of the rookie, I see him as more of a workout/combine warrior whose stock got overvalued leading up to the draft. Despite his 4.3 40 time he doesn't play that fast (much like Ronnie Brown) and as a rookie, he already made some mistakes in blitz pick up which got VY sacked in preseason - the kiss of death for his playing time.

 

So, with Chris Henry pretty much out of the competition, that left LenWhale vs. Chris Brown. We all know Brown is talented but he's got the injury history and he also was thought of so little by TEN that they only signed him late in the offseason as a street FA looking for work. Sure, Brown piled up the yardage in week 1 but if you saw the game, he was getting into the secondary completely untouched. He made the JAX saftey miss a few times and got the huge yardage. He should be commended for that but it was more a function of the OL and (speculating here) a function of big LenWhale wearing down that defense early on. (At least that's what Fischer/Chow might believe as indicated by them naming LenWhale as the starter for week 2.)

 

I drafted LenWhale in round 8 and I am cautiously optimistic that I got the right guy. The TEN running attack looks awesome and as long as LenWhale gets at least 60% and the GL carries, he should produce VERY nicely.

 

Right now, my "studs" (Bush and Jacobs) are on the bench/traded and my "back ups" (Jordan and LenWhale) are in my starting line up.

 

Looking forward to seeing the Whale tear up the Aints on Monday night.

[Sho Nuff 720]

He should be commended for that but it was more a function of the OL and (speculating here) a function of big LenWhale wearing down that defense early on.

 

So, Lendale, who ran behind that same line and had only one less carry than Brown only got 66 yards to Brown's 175?

Lendale wore them out with his one series early in the game?

 

Here are brown's carries in the 1st quarter, with the last one being at the start of the 2nd.

5 yards, 5 yards, 4 yards, 8 yards, 24 yards.

And White failed on the 4th and 1 when he came in on the tail end of that drive to give Brown a breather after 5 carries for 46 yards.

 

Brown looked better all preseason...looked better in that game as well.

[eefflrat 0]

So, Lendale, who ran behind that same line and had only one less carry than Brown only got 66 yards to Brown's 175?

Lendale wore them out with his one series early in the game?

 

Here are brown's carries in the 1st quarter, with the last one being at the start of the 2nd.

5 yards, 5 yards, 4 yards, 8 yards, 24 yards.

And White failed on the 4th and 1 when he came in on the tail end of that drive to give Brown a breather after 5 carries for 46 yards.

 

Brown looked better all preseason...looked better in that game as well.

How did Brown look last week? Didn't White grind it out better vs. the Colts?

[Sho Nuff 720]

How did Brown look last week? Didn't White grind it out better vs. the Colts?

 

That is what was odd to me. Brown outperforms White in preseason. Brown outperforms White in game 1.

White gets the start again.

White did look better in game 2 though, I will say that.

But it did not seem like Brown got all that much opportunity either.

[kilroy69 1,251]

That is what was odd to me. Brown outperforms White in preseason. Brown outperforms White in game 1.

White gets the start again.

White did look better in game 2 though, I will say that.

But it did not seem like Brown got all that much opportunity either.

Im not sure what the question is. LenDale was drafted high and is getting paid better than brown. Its the same situation that was in Chicago. Jones was shipped out of town to make room for the higher payed draft pick in benson. The titans ars going to give lendale every chance they can to prove that he can carry the load. Brown had a good game in week 1 but he knows he is not the starter. He is only there to spell lendale and to step in if the kid can't carry the load.

[lambert58 71]

I think it is pretty simple. Tennessee has 2 decent backs who play better against different styles of defenses.

 

Against the BIG and strong d-line of Jax, Chris Brown was able to use his quickness to his advantage. It could have been a product of White pounding the ball and Brown using his burst to throw off Jax's defense, but bottom line, Brown had a great game.

 

 

Against Indy's smaller and quicker defense that totally destroyed Reggie Bush, LenDale was the better back. Brown was not able to out-quick the Indy D so White was effective in pounding the ball between the tackles...

 

Fisher has a good mix at running back but it will come at the expense of fantasy owners. I predict Fisher won't change a thing and will continue to use White and Brown and go with the hot-hand as the game progresses..

[boogaloobboy 0]

The common theme here is that White will get the goal line duties. And he has proven at USC and to a degree last week that he is good in short yardage. He is a very solid RB3 and great RB4 at this point.

[CookieG 4]

lambert58.. i agree with your post entirely. sure White is the young up-and-comer TEN wants to see do well and turn into the player that justifies his high draft pick.. but he simply doesn't have speed and game breaking ability. Fisher will continue to use both to serve the situation (i.e. defense faced) and it will stay a RBBC IMHO.

 

Right now, seeming to be the goal line choice (and lets face it, keepng Brown form the IR), White seems the more valuable guy to have, but i'd be suprised if a healthy CB doesn't break a few mid ranged scoring runs off.

 

I only care because i picked Brown up to fill in for Jacobs.. otherwise, it's a RBBC sitch. i'd rather have no part of. It's also so early.. injuries happen so frequently, that that can quickly clarify a murky backfield on its own.

 

The common theme here is that White will get the goal line duties. And he has proven at USC and to a degree last week that he is good in short yardage. He is a very solid RB3 and great RB4 at this point

 

Agreed. Esp. with the team playing so well and what VY brings to the table.

[jedeye 0]

I think it is pretty simple. Tennessee has 2 decent backs who play better against different styles of defenses.

 

Against the BIG and strong d-line of Jax, Chris Brown was able to use his quickness to his advantage. It could have been a product of White pounding the ball and Brown using his burst to throw off Jax's defense, but bottom line, Brown had a great game.

Against Indy's smaller and quicker defense that totally destroyed Reggie Bush, LenDale was the better back. Brown was not able to out-quick the Indy D so White was effective in pounding the ball between the tackles...

 

Fisher has a good mix at running back but it will come at the expense of fantasy owners. I predict Fisher won't change a thing and will continue to use White and Brown and go with the hot-hand as the game progresses..

 

 

This is a smart man, people. I think he nailed it on the head.

[Ricky's Swami 0]

If the TEN rushing attack is as good as I think, 60% of the carries plus the GL attempts should be enough to make the Whale a viable #2 RB.

 

Am I right or wrong?

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

If the TEN rushing attack is as good as I think, 60% of the carries plus the GL attempts should be enough to make the Whale a viable #2 RB.

 

Am I right or wrong?

 

I agree - he was my 12th round pick and I am starting him on MNF instead of Ronnie Brown - and will continue to do so until MIA gets their sh!t together. And I think White is a good start every week - Chrissy Brown will be ineffective or hurt at some point, and White will get even more chances. But getting 60% + GL carries makes him a viable RB2, a great RB3 and a stellar RB4/Flex player (how I'm using him).

 

Chris Brown's 177 yd performance was a fluke. He showed some of the reason he was drafted, but then sputterred the next week. IF Chris Brown gets a hole, he's got the break-away speed to bust a big run against big slow defenders - this is exactly what you saw against JAX.

 

White is going to be the more consistent of the two. In that same JAX game, White got the GL carry (and unfortunately fumbled) - but he could have easily had 66 and a TD. Combine that with this week's effort and White has been the better back.

 

I was initially really down on this guy - his weight was ridiculous. But he's got good vision and patience to let the play develop. He waits for the initial crash of O-Line/D-Line, then takes his time picking his way through, bowling over anything that gets in his way. It was weird watching him rumble for 6-10 yds a clip while appearing to run underwater. His big belly hanging down, he looks nothing like an athlete - but the results can't be disputed. He is a punishing runner.

[Larry David 20]

I think it is pretty simple. Tennessee has 2 decent backs who play better against different styles of defenses.

 

Against the BIG and strong d-line of Jax, Chris Brown was able to use his quickness to his advantage. It could have been a product of White pounding the ball and Brown using his burst to throw off Jax's defense, but bottom line, Brown had a great game.

Against Indy's smaller and quicker defense that totally destroyed Reggie Bush, LenDale was the better back. Brown was not able to out-quick the Indy D so White was effective in pounding the ball between the tackles...

 

Fisher has a good mix at running back but it will come at the expense of fantasy owners. I predict Fisher won't change a thing and will continue to use White and Brown and go with the hot-hand as the game progresses..

 

So if we go by this theory alone, which guy has a better day against the Saints? Are they small and quick or big and strong?

[Sho Nuff 720]

I agree - he was my 12th round pick and I am starting him on MNF instead of Ronnie Brown - and will continue to do so until MIA gets their sh!t together. And I think White is a good start every week - Chrissy Brown will be ineffective or hurt at some point, and White will get even more chances. But getting 60% + GL carries makes him a viable RB2, a great RB3 and a stellar RB4/Flex player (how I'm using him).

 

Chris Brown's 177 yd performance was a fluke. He showed some of the reason he was drafted, but then sputterred the next week. IF Chris Brown gets a hole, he's got the break-away speed to bust a big run against big slow defenders - this is exactly what you saw against JAX.

 

White is going to be the more consistent of the two. In that same JAX game, White got the GL carry (and unfortunately fumbled) - but he could have easily had 66 and a TD. Combine that with this week's effort and White has been the better back.

 

I was initially really down on this guy - his weight was ridiculous. But he's got good vision and patience to let the play develop. He waits for the initial crash of O-Line/D-Line, then takes his time picking his way through, bowling over anything that gets in his way. It was weird watching him rumble for 6-10 yds a clip while appearing to run underwater. His big belly hanging down, he looks nothing like an athlete - but the results can't be disputed. He is a punishing runner.

 

a fluke? come on...Brown has shown over and over again that when healthy he is a quality back.

In that same Jacksonville game White had 1 less carry than Brown...and a much different production.

He had 2 cracks inside the 10 in the first half and could not get the ball in.

He got the other goalline work after brown just had 5 carries for 46 yards.

Got it 1st and goal from the 9...got 4 yards...then no gain...then on 4th and goal from the one...again no gain.

 

Drive in the 3rd quarter...Brown handles the load...white gets one carry on first and goal from the 10 for 6 yards...Brown comes in...gains 2 on 2nd down...and Vince then gets the 2 yard TD run.

 

So basically all the goalline work White got...he failed to deliver.

I have not seen really much on him to show that he has been the better back at all in preseason or in game one. He was better this past week though.

 

but Brown through 2 games with 2 fewer carries than White is averaging 6.7 yards per carry to White's 3.9.

[gpann101 32]

I love it...You guys like Brown over LenDale one week then switch by the next.Lets think future here....LenDale has YET to prove he can carry a full load BY HIMSELF.That being said,he is as well an injury risk to certain degree.Then you have Brown who has proved himself in the past.Has he had some bad injury luck?...yes.However he is a more complete and dominate back.

My predictions...LenDale and Brown will be involved early in the season.Lendale may turn out to get the most work providing the team is winning.I think TENN is just preserving Brown incase they DO have a legit shot towards the playoffs with the hopes of Brown taking them the rest of the way.Brown has one motivation only...GET A HUGH PAYCHECK NEXT YEAR FROM SOMEONE!He is going to play his A55 off just like Travis did last year.

I say Lendale is the man now...Brown is the one you want late season/playoffs.

TENNESSE will not have a RB situation next year when they sign free agent RB Michael Turner.

[Ricky's Swami 0]

I agree - he was my 12th round pick and I am starting him on MNF instead of Ronnie Brown - and will continue to do so until MIA gets their sh!t together. And I think White is a good start every week - Chrissy Brown will be ineffective or hurt at some point, and White will get even more chances. But getting 60% + GL carries makes him a viable RB2, a great RB3 and a stellar RB4/Flex player (how I'm using him).

 

Chris Brown's 177 yd performance was a fluke. He showed some of the reason he was drafted, but then sputterred the next week. IF Chris Brown gets a hole, he's got the break-away speed to bust a big run against big slow defenders - this is exactly what you saw against JAX.

 

White is going to be the more consistent of the two. In that same JAX game, White got the GL carry (and unfortunately fumbled) - but he could have easily had 66 and a TD. Combine that with this week's effort and White has been the better back.

 

I was initially really down on this guy - his weight was ridiculous. But he's got good vision and patience to let the play develop. He waits for the initial crash of O-Line/D-Line, then takes his time picking his way through, bowling over anything that gets in his way. It was weird watching him rumble for 6-10 yds a clip while appearing to run underwater. His big belly hanging down, he looks nothing like an athlete - but the results can't be disputed. He is a punishing runner.

 

 

Speaking of Ronnie and overweight RBs, Ronnie showed up to mini camps at 250 lbs. which is what got him in the dog house with Cam.

 

Funny enough, I've got LeWhale, Jacobs and Jordan as my 3 primary RBs (now after trading Bush+ for Wayne).

 

My RBs are almost 800 combined lbs.

[lambert58 71]

So if we go by this theory alone, which guy has a better day against the Saints? Are they small and quick or big and strong?

 

 

My guess would be Lendale will be the best option. Addai had great success running the ball inside the tackles. Caddy, though he scored twice, struggled to put up yardage against the Saints. I realize that the O-Line for Tenn is a lot better than Tampa's but I do see a couple of goal line situations for LenDale...

 

 

Don't be surprised if both backs combined rush for over 200 again..

[Nikethemutt 0]

Don't be surprised if both backs combined rush for over 200 again..

 

With the way McAllister is playing, I'd probably be better off starting White and Brown together.

[The Next Generation 10]

I love it...You guys like Brown over LenDale one week then switch by the next.Lets think future here....LenDale has YET to prove he can carry a full load BY HIMSELF.That being said,he is as well an injury risk to certain degree.Then you have Brown who has proved himself in the past.Has he had some bad injury luck?...yes.However he is a more complete and dominate back.

My predictions...LenDale and Brown will be involved early in the season.Lendale may turn out to get the most work providing the team is winning.I think TENN is just preserving Brown incase they DO have a legit shot towards the playoffs with the hopes of Brown taking them the rest of the way.Brown has one motivation only...GET A HUGH PAYCHECK NEXT YEAR FROM SOMEONE!He is going to play his A55 off just like Travis did last year.

I say Lendale is the man now...Brown is the one you want late season/playoffs.

TENNESSE will not have a RB situation next year when they sign free agent RB Michael Turner.

 

This is the NFL, you don't "preserve" a guy in the beginning of the season hoping you make a playoff push. You play to win every game with your best players. That said, I believe they want White to take the job and not look back.

[boogaloobboy 0]

It is obvious to anyone who listened to the off season program reports and to Fischer's comments on the subject the orginization wants White to take the job. Brown complicated that week 1 but I still things as a 60/40% White split where White gets the goal line carries. If he has one or two more weeks like last week where he is clearly the better back expect that to change to where Brown is used as a third down back or for spelling only. All of this assumes White continues to run tough and show well though.

[steelers2101 7]

Regarding Henry, does anyone know anything on him. Will he be given an opportunity. Is he even worth a roster spot? I'm thinking of dropping him for A-Train even.

[DankNuggs 305]

White completely outplayed him week 2. Brown is nothing more than a change of pace type of runner between the 20's in that offense. I see 60/40 splits in Whites favor.

[CookieG 4]

That said, Lenwhale's got an ailing foot and Chrissy was in on the last series last week when the Titans had the ball inside the ten. I think that was more a matter of White's foot bothering him.

 

I think we need a few more games to sort out. No doubt the team would like to see White grab the lion's share of the RB duties.. but at this point, it's still to early to tell what will happen.

 

Good news if you have either is the solid play of both their line and their defense.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

That said, Lenwhale's got an ailing foot and Chrissy was in on the last series last week when the Titans had the ball inside the ten. I think that was more a matter of White's foot bothering him.

 

I think we need a few more games to sort out. No doubt the team would like to see White grab the lion's share of the RB duties.. but at this point, it's still to early to tell what will happen.

 

Good news if you have either is the solid play of both their line and their defense.

 

I just read that White practiced fully on Thursday and today and showed no ill effects of his foot issue.

[CookieG 4]

Okay.. i hadn't seen that yet (link)? He does have the extra day to heal up. My worry would be more long term if i owned him.. You do have to wonder a bit about his conditioning and ability to hold up all season. But hey, Bettis played fat his whole carreer and look how well that turned out. LenWhale has a ways to go before he looks that good.

 

Just took a quick look at The Tennesean (Nashville Daily). White was limited on Wed., but practced on Thurs. No real specifics.