Ron Paul People

[hoytdwow 202]

If Paul does not get the GOP nomination, do you think he will run as a 3rd party candidate? Has he addressed this question?

[edjr 7,137]

He was asked that directly by a "you tuber" last night.

 

He said "I'm an * term senator as a republican, I am running as a republican"

 

HTH

[wiffleball 4,800]

Really wished he would've been asked how he was going to cut spending by a third and tax revenue by half. All while not borrowing - in fact paying DOWN debt.

 

 

THAT's a nifty trick right there!

[Juggernauts 0]

Why would you want a cross dressing faux celebrity as your next president? I mean, I always though RuPaul was overrated anyway!

[edjr 7,137]

Why would you want a cross dressing faux celebrity as your next president? I mean, I always though RuPaul was overrated anyway!

 

 

That wasn't funny when Bill Maher said it 9 months ago.

[VikesFan 1]

Really wished he would've been asked how he was going to cut spending by a third and tax revenue by half. All while not borrowing - in fact paying DOWN debt.

THAT's a nifty trick right there!

 

Your numbers are backwards. Reducing all federal income tax would cut taxes by about 1/3. Moving out of Iraq, abolishing the IRS, departments of Education and Energy, and cutting other spending woudl cut expenditures by more than half.

[Juggernauts 0]

That wasn't funny when Bill Maher said it 9 months ago.

 

 

My bad. I don't watch Maher. It's just everytime I hear Ron Paul I always think if RuPaul

[hoytdwow 202]

He was asked that directly by a "you tuber" last night.

 

He said "I'm an * term senator as a republican, I am running as a republican"

 

HTH

 

Let me rephrase:

 

After either Giuliani or Romney is nominated by the GOP, do Ron Paul supporters believe he will continue his run as a 3rd party candidate? Would you want him to do this?

 

I'm not really supporting him at this point, but I really hope he stays in the race till the end

[edjr 7,137]

Let me rephrase:

 

After either Giuliani or Romney is nominated by the GOP, do Ron Paul supporters believe he will continue his run as a 3rd party candidate? Would you want him to do this?

 

I'm not really supporting him at this point, but I really hope he stays in the race till the end

 

a 3rd party candidate will never win, it's a waste of time and money, so no I don't want him to.

[hoytdwow 202]

a 3rd party candidate will never win, it's a waste of time and money, so no I don't want him to.

 

well, he can't use the money for anything else but campaigning, and he'll have nothing but time, so why not?

[redtodd 7]

I would think Democrats would love for him to run as a 3rd party because he would steal votes from the Republicans.

[edjr 7,137]

well, he can't use the money for anything else but campaigning, and he'll have nothing but time, so why not?

 

 

 

because he won't WIN! Not as a 3rd party

[hoytdwow 202]

 

because he won't WIN! Not as a 3rd party

 

yes, but if he stayed in he could keep the other candidates honest (or at least try), plus it would serve to highlight how the system sucks and excludes people even when they have massive support. That's a good thing.

[NorthernVike 2,118]

I would think Democrats would love for him to run as a 3rd party because he would steal votes from the Republicans.

 

 

He would also take votes away from the Dems so I dont think there too high on the idea either.

[TheBlade 3]

He would also take votes away from the Dems so I dont think there too high on the idea either.

 

This is true. I could see him taking a bunch of the "middle-of-the-road" votes from both sides, leaving the extremists of both parties to duke it out and try and muster enough votes to take the prize.

[wiffleball 4,800]

Your numbers are backwards. Reducing all federal income tax would cut taxes by about 1/3. Moving out of Iraq, abolishing the IRS, departments of Education and Energy, and cutting other spending woudl cut expenditures by more than half.

 

Wrong. We already did this thread. Look it up. PIT represents on average 44-48% of all Federal Tax Revenue.

 

Next: Ru Paul says "Imagine cutting our expenses, by a third! It's not that hard! That's just be like our spending in 2000! We did it before, we can do it again!"

 

Next: RP says he'd immediately stop borrowing money and pay down our national debt.

 

So, let's say you make $100,000

 

You're spending $120,000 - by borrowing to make up for it.

 

Then, some genius tells you "happy days are here again. Here's how it works:

 

Your total income will now be $55,000

 

Your total expenses will now be $90,000

 

And - You'll start paying down your debt too. "

 

That's RP's own statements. Get informed about your candidate. Focking Mouth-Breathers hang on every word slack-jawed and nodding their head "Uh-huh. Yep. Sure. That makes sense!"

 

...And never take the time to THINK about the shiit themselves.

[NorthernVike 2,118]

Well then Wiff, who would you like as the next president? And why?

[EAwer 1]

Ron Paul has not said no but that he has at the time he has no intention of running 3rd party. The top 5 "3rd" parties are ready to endorse him which garner about 5% of the popular vote. Also in a hitlery vs ghoulani general election there will be no pro life candidate and 18% of the GOP has stated they will vote 3rd party in this case. That right there is around 20% of the popular vote. Another 10% for independants/true anti war dems/true small gov't Repubs and you have a 3rd party legit candidate.

[Mrsteak21 0]

Wrong. We already did this thread. Look it up. PIT represents on average 44-48% of all Federal Tax Revenue.

 

Next: Ru Paul says "Imagine cutting our expenses, by a third! It's not that hard! That's just be like our spending in 2000! We did it before, we can do it again!"

 

Next: RP says he'd immediately stop borrowing money and pay down our national debt.

 

So, let's say you make $100,000

 

You're spending $120,000 - by borrowing to make up for it.

 

Then, some genius tells you "happy days are here again. Here's how it works:

 

Your total income will now be $55,000

 

Your total expenses will now be $90,000

 

And - You'll start paying down your debt too. "

 

That's RP's own statements. Get informed about your candidate. Focking Mouth-Breathers hang on every word slack-jawed and nodding their head "Uh-huh. Yep. Sure. That makes sense!"

 

...And never take the time to THINK about the shiit themselves.

 

 

I can see why people rip on you all the time. Instead of looking at the big picture and take into account everything Ron Paul says on economics, you instead choose one thing pretend nothing else is going on and rip on it. You are ignoring the Iraq War, various depts., and tons of govt inefficiences that would be eliminated under Paul. I used to have more respect for you but im starting to see why you are the butt of an awful amount of peoples jokes....

[BLS 315]

Wrong. We already did this thread. Look it up. PIT represents on average 44-48% of all Federal Tax Revenue.

 

Next: Ru Paul says "Imagine cutting our expenses, by a third! It's not that hard! That's just be like our spending in 2000! We did it before, we can do it again!"

 

Next: RP says he'd immediately stop borrowing money and pay down our national debt.

 

So, let's say you make $100,000

 

You're spending $120,000 - by borrowing to make up for it.

 

Then, some genius tells you "happy days are here again. Here's how it works:

 

Your total income will now be $55,000

 

Your total expenses will now be $90,000

 

And - You'll start paying down your debt too. "

 

That's RP's own statements. Get informed about your candidate. Focking Mouth-Breathers hang on every word slack-jawed and nodding their head "Uh-huh. Yep. Sure. That makes sense!"

 

...And never take the time to THINK about the shiit themselves.

 

 

Dude,

 

I went through this with you already.

Ron's not going to walk in, pull everybody home (thus saving $) and call the IRS and say "go home".

He's CLEARLY stated that he would need that money (saved from non-interventionism) to pay off the 9 Trillion Dollar debt.

That right there....makes 9 years minimum to close the IRS...minimum.

Clearly he could not make it law while in office.

The only option there would be to pass a law that once the debt is paid off, the government could not tax people through wages any longer, etc., etc.

But...I digress....

 

What you've blatantly or ignorantly ignored, is that he has plans for MANY other branches of government, as well as pulling troops home.

Of course NONE of them can be just shut down. None...and he's inkled he's aware of that many times.

He cannot change/fix everything (which BTW is what everyone so ignorantly wants, yet refuses to research their choices, or even choose when the time comes.) even if he did consecutive terms.

 

What he CAN do is reverse the bullsh!t spending, over-taxation and over-regulation, and put the people back in control and teach them the lessons we've all forgotten that our forefathers TRIED to teach us to never forget. That WE run our government. Not the other way around.

With that 'luxury' also comes responsibility. To look at all your choices, to exercise and know your laws, understand your rights, and be RESPONSIBLE for the actions you are entrusted to. The alternative is nothing more than tyranny disguised as 'protection' or otherwise known as the 'government tit'.

 

ALOT of people WANT government to run things for them. What I believe they fail to understand is that they are voluntarily relinquishing their rights with little regard to the long-term effects on themselves, or future family members. All for the sake of some form of 'comfort' and fairness.

Then when that government simply can't afford all the things we DEMAND for our own comforts, they must resort to printing it in order not to lose the most 'unsupervised' position in the world.

 

Then ultimately, we have the gall to blame them for 'screwing us' and taking away our rights in order to keep us in line and life 'fair' for those who don't want to do it the old way; working for it. And now the middle class is dying because they won't tax their rich buddies, and SOMEBODY'S gotta pay for it.

 

Psst.....That would be you and I.....

 

We screwed ourselves. And the only way to fix it is to not depend more on government (it's what got us here in the first place) like so many people think; it is, in fact, OUR job to fix it.

 

Ron Paul is one of those guys who can start the ball rolling by doing OUR job and electing someone who can help us help ourselves.