surferskin 30 Posted December 13, 2007 How is Luis Gonzo not on this list? I'm calling B.S. that's another thing that stinks to high hell about this list...it can't possibly have every one that ever did HGH or steroids. of course, that skinny little homo gonzo used sumpthin to hit 57 homeruns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted December 13, 2007 that's another thing that stinks to high hell about this list...it can't possibly have every one that ever did HGH or steroids. of course, that skinny little homo gonzo used sumpthin to hit 57 homeruns. This list also doesn't really show what they've tested positive for. I think I'lljust wait until the official list comes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted December 13, 2007 that's another thing that stinks to high hell about this list...it can't possibly have every one that ever did HGH or steroids. of course, that skinny little homo gonzo used sumpthin to hit 57 homeruns. If you're not on the list it does'nt mean you never used it. It means either you did'nt use it or did'nt get caught using it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted December 13, 2007 If you're not on the list it does'nt mean you never used it. It means either you did'nt use it or did'nt get caught using it. Itsatip that being ON the list doesn't mean you used steroids either. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted December 13, 2007 non validated list allegedly leaked:Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood." This list does not match the story that there is suppose to be a lot of Yankees on the list. There are a lot of Red Sox on the list so no one can complain about Mitchell holding back on the Red Sox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted December 13, 2007 I wish I was at the press conference. Here are the questions I would ask: 1. Hey George, why wasn't the list "officially" released before your press conference so the media could have time to soak it in and be prepared to ask questions? 2. What were your boundaries for "fairness", considering there is no rebuttal from these players or cross-examination of the so called people that told on them whether it be a trainer, batboy, other players, or next door neighbor. 3. Why is this investigation stopping at trying to name players names only. Why did you not look into what owners, GM's, coaches, and MLB brass knew during the time this was happening? If they indeed did know and turned a blind eye would that not be considered accessory and/or conspiracy? 4. And also one more question for you Mr. Mitchell. Why did this investigation focking cost so much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted December 13, 2007 I wish I was at the press conference. Here are the questions I would ask: 1. Hey George, why wasn't the list "oficially" released before your press conference so the media could have time to soak it in and be prepared to ask questions? 2. What were your boundaries for "fairness", considering there is no rebuttal from these players or cross-examination of the so call people that told on them whether it be a trainer, batboy, other players, or next door neighbor. 3. Why is this investigation stopping at trying to name players names only. Why did you not look into what owners, GM's, coaches, and MLB brass knew during the time this was happening? If they indeed did know and turned a blind eye would that not be considered accessory and/or conspiracy? 4. And also one more question for you Mr. Mitchell. Why did this investigation focking cost so much? I do'nt think there is an official list. It is a report. I agree with question 1 but the other questions may be answered by the report. Supposively they called people that were named to get their version. I think it will all be in the report that is supposively pretty detailed and is critical of MLB and the players association. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted December 13, 2007 Itsatip that being ON the list doesn't mean you used steroids either. HTH No but evidence will probably be presented in the report and you can make your own judgement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted December 13, 2007 report that is supposively pretty detailed and is critical of MLB and the players association. I hope so, I blame them more this focking mess than anybody else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,153 Posted December 13, 2007 I wish I was at the press conference. Here are the questions I would ask: 1. Hey George, why wasn't the list "officially" released before your press conference so the media could have time to soak it in and be prepared to ask questions? 2. What were your boundaries for "fairness", considering there is no rebuttal from these players or cross-examination of the so called people that told on them whether it be a trainer, batboy, other players, or next door neighbor. 3. Why is this investigation stopping at trying to name players names only. Why did you not look into what owners, GM's, coaches, and MLB brass knew during the time this was happening? If they indeed did know and turned a blind eye would that not be considered accessory and/or conspiracy? 4. And also one more question for you Mr. Mitchell. Why did this investigation focking cost so much? I swear, I just read this ESPN article after I posted this. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor...&id=3153050 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites