kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 10, 2008 Before you go ahead and jump on me peenie about this being a racist thread hear me out. Why do blacks insist on speaking the english language this way? For the most part they recieve the same education that white people do and yet insist on using ebonics. Don't they understand that it makes them sound dumb? My class was about half black where I grew up. I watched as the black kids in class spoke their version of english even as teachers tried to break them of it. They did not care then and I am sure they don't care now. Hell even illegals can speak the english language better than a lot of blacks that were born here. Its just something I don't understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted February 10, 2008 Don't ax me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 10, 2008 RACIST! Its a legit question that is not racist. I really wonder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Its a legit question that is not racist. I really wonder. What do you expect from a pig but a grunt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 10, 2008 Their lips are two big to pronounciate properly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 10, 2008 why do southerners speak the way they do, or new yorkers? why do people from boston speak the way they do? why do people from the midwest speak the way they do? why do teenagers use language different than their parents? why can't chinese pronounce the "l" sound or the french pronounce the "th" sound? use common sense to answer that ridiculously simple question. also, all blacks don't all do anything, some blacks speak the way you imply but i don't have a black dialect AT ALL and i'm sure you know plenty of blacks that don't speak ebonics. whatever that means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 10, 2008 It's just cultural. You speak like the people you are around. It's not a "black" thing anymore so than Italians eating spaghetti is an Italian thing. You do what you know, and you usually continue in the way you're raised. So if you're brought up hearing people speak like that, you're going to grow up to speak that way in all likelyhood, unless somewhere along the line you feel the need to speak correctly or whatever. The majority of people don't make that change, and sadly it's attached to a certain stigma that discourages more young people from speaking the right way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted February 10, 2008 Someone must have missed out on "Hooked on Ebonics" as a child... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 why do southerners speak the way they do, or new yorkers? why do people from boston speak the way they do? why do people from the midwest speak the way they do? why do teenagers use language different than their parents? why can't chinese pronounce the "l" sound or the french pronounce the "th" sound? use common sense to answer that ridiculously simple question. also, all blacks don't all do anything, some blacks speak the way you imply but i don't have a black dialect AT ALL and i'm sure you know plenty of blacks that don't speak ebonics. whatever that means. New yorkers and southerners way of speak are accents. Ebonics is not even close to being the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 New yorkers and southerners way of speak are accents. Ebonics is not even close to being the same thing. well then i have no idea what you are talking about. you need to clarify with a specific example and maybe i can help you since your own brain is of no use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 11, 2008 well then i have no idea what you are talking about. you need to clarify with a specific example and maybe i can help you since your own brain is of no use. He means (if I can speak for ya Kilroy) that NYC and the south add more of a "twang" to words, etc. while Ebonics has it's own vocabulary at times. It's like a derivative of English, with changed meanings, spellings, pronounciations, speech patterns, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 38 Posted February 11, 2008 Why learn English when one can just make illegitimate babies and live off Welfare. Sheeeeaa, da's all nees be no'in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 that NYC and the south add more of a "twang" to words, etc. while Ebonics has it's own vocabulary at times. give me a specific word or phrase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted February 11, 2008 give me a specific word or phrase Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Verse 1:] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me lean and watch me rock Super man dat hoe Then watch me crank dat robocop Super fresh, now watch me jock Jocking on them haterz man When i do dat soulja boy I lean to the left and crank dat dance (now you) I'm jocking on yo ###### ass And if we get the fightin Then i'm cocking on your ###### You catch me at yo local party Yes i crank it everyday Haterz get mad cuz "i got me some bathin apes" [Chorus x2] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Verse 2:] I'm bouncin on my toe Watch me super soak dat hoe I'ma pass it to arab Then he gon pass it to don loc (loc) Haterz wanna be me Soulja boy, i'm the man They be lookin at my neck Sayin its the rubberband man (man) Watch me do it (watch me do it) Dance (dance) Let get to it (let get to it) Nope, you can't do it like me Hoe, so don't do it like me Folk, i see you tryna do it like me Man that ###### was ugly [Chorus x4] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Hook:] Im to clean off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank that roosavelt And super soak that Hoe [x10] Im to fresh up in this ###### Watch me shuffle Watch me jig Watch me crank my shoulder work Super man that ###### [x6] [Chorus] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 11, 2008 give me a specific word or phrase Hell, I don't know. There's so many that it's almost not noticeable anymore. How about changing the entire meaning of the word "ice" to describe diamo...err...bling-bling? Just stuff like that. It doesn't seem sensible to completely change entire words or phrases and assign whatever meaning you want to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 well then i have no idea what you are talking about. you need to clarify with a specific example and maybe i can help you since your own brain is of no use. Saying Y'all is not the same thing as this. Ebonics: "Sheeeeiit, foo, I'z be doin' dat sh!t an' shorty be axin me fo' sum' scrilla." English: Sh!t, friend, I am doing that stuff, and my girlfriend is asking me for some money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 11, 2008 Soulja boy off in this hoeWatch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Verse 1:] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me lean and watch me rock Super man dat hoe Then watch me crank dat robocop Super fresh, now watch me jock Jocking on them haterz man When i do dat soulja boy I lean to the left and crank dat dance (now you) I'm jocking on yo ###### ass And if we get the fightin Then i'm cocking on your ###### You catch me at yo local party Yes i crank it everyday Haterz get mad cuz "i got me some bathin apes" [Chorus x2] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Verse 2:] I'm bouncin on my toe Watch me super soak dat hoe I'ma pass it to arab Then he gon pass it to don loc (loc) Haterz wanna be me Soulja boy, i'm the man They be lookin at my neck Sayin its the rubberband man (man) Watch me do it (watch me do it) Dance (dance) Let get to it (let get to it) Nope, you can't do it like me Hoe, so don't do it like me Folk, i see you tryna do it like me Man that ###### was ugly [Chorus x4] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) [Hook:] Im to clean off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank that roosavelt And super soak that Hoe [x10] Im to fresh up in this ###### Watch me shuffle Watch me jig Watch me crank my shoulder work Super man that ###### [x6] [Chorus] Soulja boy off in this hoe Watch me crank it Watch me roll Watch me crank dat soulja boy Then super man dat hoe Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Now watch me yuuuuaaaaaa! (crank dat soulja boy) Something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 38 Posted February 11, 2008 give me a specific word or phrase I'll give you both: who-se for house The Big Dog Berlitz school for speaking ebonics: 1. For any monosyllabalic word, delete the last consonant or group of consonants. 2. For any polysyllabic word, delete the last syllable. 3 Conjugation of the verb "to be": I be We be They be yesterday You be tomorrow And, a very common phrase that incorporates all the above: "I be a mee mothafuck" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 He means (if I can speak for ya Kilroy) that NYC and the south add more of a "twang" to words, etc. while Ebonics has it's own vocabulary at times. It's like a derivative of English, with changed meanings, spellings, pronounciations, speech patterns, etc. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 okay, so you're asking me why do some black people speak slang? the same reason white kids speak slang, because they want to. why do italians say "youse" for you all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 okay, so you're asking me why do some black people speak slang?the same reason white kids speak slang, because they want to. why do italians say "youse" for you all? Not quite. Slang is one thing. Ebonics is another lazy language all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 11, 2008 okay, so you're asking me why do some black people speak slang?the same reason white kids speak slang, because they want to. why do italians say "youse" for you all? Again, that's a variation on a word. You can tell that's just an accented way of saying a certain thing. You know they're just pronouncing a word differently, but you still know what the hell they're talking about. Ebonics, as has been pointed out to you with specific words and phrases like you asked, just makes shit up and attaches meaning to it. How is that possible? Why do people do it? You're refusing to see the point here. A simple "I don't know" will be fine, but please stop rephrasing it to make it seem like it's nothing more than slang or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
/Osiris/ 0 Posted February 11, 2008 For the most part they recieve the same education.... Your curiosity about Black culture is quite peculiar, I must say. Then again, we ARE pretty interesting, no? Your envy is obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 Oh yea, I get to typing real fast and make one typing mistake and its even close to the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 no one here speaks old english do they? slang influences change in language. it's called creativity. right now i'm listening to a singer singing, "i'm walkin' down the road...." "goodness gracious great balls of fire...kiss me baby....girlie let me love ya...." that's all slang, but it's slang that has been incorporated into everyday language. i'm not going to sit here and answer stupid questions. it's like me trying to answer why did blacks invent rap or hip hop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
/Osiris/ 0 Posted February 11, 2008 no one here speaks old english do they?slang influences change in language. it's called creativity. right now i'm listening to a singer singing, "i'm walkin' down the road...." "goodness gracious great balls of fire...kiss me baby....girlie let me love ya...." that's all slang, but it's slang that has been incorporated into everyday language. i'm not going to sit here and answer stupid questions. it's like me trying to answer why did blacks invent rap or hip hop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 Your envy is obvious. LOL. A little tip. White people don't envy black people. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 38 Posted February 11, 2008 /Osiris/ = Peenie So obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 /Osiris/ = Peenie So obvious. LOL. Thats what I have been saying. I was wondering if anyone else picked up on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 LOL. Thats what I have been saying. I was wondering if anyone else picked up on that. are you serious? do you think i need an alias to validate my posts? that's something you punk asses do, not me. i'm grown and i don't have time for that. i'm secure and quite confident. i don't care if not one person on this site agrees with me. young people are always trying to be different from the generation before it. they're trying to be cool and enjoy life and not on anyone's terms: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
/Osiris/ 0 Posted February 11, 2008 White people don't envy black people. HTH. Is that why some white folks spend tons of cash on tanning booths and risk all kinds of skin ailments by "laying out" in the sun trying to get dark like us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 38 Posted February 11, 2008 LOL. Thats what I have been saying. I was wondering if anyone else picked up on that. Typical and totally expected responses all the way through when the answer is obvious: 1. Deflect 2. Obfuscate 3. Won't waste my time. We all know what the real answer is and I mentioned it previously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 Is that why some white folks spend tons of cash on tanning booths and risk all kinds of skins ailments by "laying out" in the sun trying to get dark like us? Having a nice little tint to your skin is a good thing. Not to mention that it lays down a nice base tan so you don't get burned when you go out in the sun. Tanning however does not mean that white people want to be black, again HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted February 11, 2008 Is that why some white folks spend tons of cash on tanning booths and risk all kinds of skin ailments by "laying out" in the sun trying to get dark like us? Are...no. You can't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,703 Posted February 11, 2008 white people consume all that ignorance you all are complaining about. every slang word, white kids try to replicate, every ignorant song, white kids are going out and buying it. i'm going to bed now. talk amongst yourselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
/Osiris/ 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Having a nice little tint to your skin is a good thing. Not to mention that it lays down a nice base tan so you don't get burned when you go out in the sun. Tanning however does not mean that white people want to be black, again HTH. Uh....yeah. Sure. I suppose that's also the reason why most white women get shots so that they can have full lips like Black folks, right? Because full lips is "a good thing," right? And also why white folks always steal and become a part of Black art forms such as jazz, blues and hip hop, right? You're trying, kilroy; your effort is applauded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 Best soulja boy. Sebastion the ibis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,032 Posted February 11, 2008 Uh....yeah. Sure. I suppose that's also the reason why most white women get shots so that they can have full lips like Black folks, right? Because full lips is "a good thing," right? And also why white folks always steal and become a part of Black art forms such as jazz, blues and hip hop, right? Peenie I thought you were going to bed. Women of any color get shots in their lips so they can have DSL. And also why white folks always steal and become a part of Black art forms such as jazz, blues and hip hop, right? As opposed to blacks who just steal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
/Osiris/ 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Peenie I thought you were going to bed. Women of any color get shots in their lips so they can have DSL. As opposed to blacks who just steal. Wow, what thoughtful rebuttals. Face it. Your ridiculous claim that whites don't envy Blacks is off base. Period. Don't be ashamed of it. Accept it. Embrace it. Live with it. But above all, don't deny it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites