yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 I got nothing. Didn't I make the cut? Did you send ed an email? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I got nothing. Didn't I make the cut? yes you made the cut, maybe I put your email in wrong. give me a sec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 Anyone heard from lambert58? I just sent him mail a day or two ago and another one just now but he hasn't been on here since he declared his interest. Also, the "Village Idiots" complete with Cowbell Icon are in full effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted July 15, 2008 https://vtunnel.com blocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 blocked. The vtunnel with the http:// is blocked at my work but this one https:// is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 Anyone heard from lambert58? I just sent him mail a day or two ago and another one just now but he hasn't been on here since he declared his interest. Also, the "Village Idiots" complete with Cowbell Icon are in full effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 ok so our plan of action. 1. Get everyone paid 2. decide about the draft, how we will do it and how long it should take and how long people get per turn. 3. Select draft order 4. set divisions and schedule 5. start drafting. I had an idea to make the draft fair. No one can keep their 1st round pick, not just this year, but ever? that way it will keep good players moving around to various teams. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 You are already filming my team activities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I set lineups as follows 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex 1 TE 1 K 1 ST/D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 ok so our plan of action. 1. Get everyone paid 2. decide about the draft, how we will do it and how long it should take and how long people get per turn. 3. Select draft order 4. set divisions and schedule 5. start drafting. I had an idea to make the draft fair. No one can keep their 1st round pick, not just this year, but ever? that way it will keep good players moving around to various teams. Thoughts? It's interesting but I really think you would be screwing up a team's long term plans in a draft. Say you take a top notch QB in round one. Well, you might not be inclined to take higher end backups on until late. Then you take away that QB next year? In a nutshell, you would be sabotaging strategies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted July 15, 2008 The vtunnel with the http:// is blocked at my work but this one https:// is not. Yeah, they are both blocked for me. I'm going with "The Borderline Retards" So edjr, you flat out refusing to meet me and take my money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah, they are both blocked for me. I'm going with "The Borderline Retards" So edjr, you flat out refusing to meet me and take my money? Oh sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you. I am not working there anymore, it would be out of my way. also, for those of you that can access the site and wish to pay, I put a post on the massageboard,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted July 15, 2008 Oh sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you. I am not working there anymore, it would be out of my way. also, for those of you that can access the site and wish to pay, I put a post on the massageboard,. Fine, I'll figure out how to pay up via the web. Also, your pants are on fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted July 15, 2008 ok so our plan of action. 1. Get everyone paid 2. decide about the draft, how we will do it and how long it should take and how long people get per turn. 3. Select draft order 4. set divisions and schedule 5. start drafting. I had an idea to make the draft fair. No one can keep their 1st round pick, not just this year, but ever? that way it will keep good players moving around to various teams. Thoughts? I have found there is enough trading in dynasty leagues without trying to increase it with rules like this. Because everyones value system is so much different in dynasty than redraft things tend to move more often IMO. ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 I set lineups as follows 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 Flex 1 TE 1 K 1 ST/D I do prefer the "flex" spot over 3 WR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I have found there is enough trading in dynasty leagues without trying to increase it with rules like this. Because everyones value system is so much different in dynasty than redraft things tend to move more often IMO. ~STICK There is no arguing that the 1st round picks have the most value and I don't think it's fair whoever gets the 2nd pick should get AP for the next 6 years? Sure there is plenty of trading, but a guy like AP will not be traded. This is up for debate, I am not making the final ruling. Just throwing it out there. it will also keep the really bad teams for sucking too long, because they will have the 1st pick the next year if we do it this way,. Whoever comes in last gets the 1st pick next year,. it will either be LT2 or AP, right? Won't that keep people from quitting too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted July 15, 2008 There is no arguing that the 1st round picks have the most value and I don't think it's fair whoever gets the 2nd pick should get AP for the next 6 years? Sure there is plenty of trading, but a guy like AP will not be traded. This is up for debate, I am not making the final ruling. Just throwing it out there. it will also keep the really bad teams for sucking too long, because they will have the 1st pick the next year if we do it this way,. Whoever comes in last gets the 1st pick next year,. it will either be LT2 or AP, right? Won't that keep people from quitting too? The worst team in the league will have a chance to improve because he will get his first choice of the rookies. This is a team changing event and enough IMO. What about the guy who loses his first pick to a career ending injury? This will happen too. Let the "market" work itself out. Like I have said before, the best will still rise to the top IMO. Dynasty is the best and for me the only way to play fantasy football. It is far more indepth and involved. Whether we picked the right people will determine how long the league continues, not rules like you are purposing. Competition, activety, trades, and friendship is what will make a dynasty successful. ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted July 15, 2008 I see your good intentions - but no way we can do this. Then it would just be a gay-nasty league... Even though I am against snake drafts for dynasty leagues - we need to maintain roster integrity. We are already reversing next year's rookie draft, that is enough in my mind. I had an idea to make the draft fair. No one can keep their 1st round pick, not just this year, but ever? that way it will keep good players moving around to various teams. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted July 15, 2008 Can I REQUEST the 12th pick? ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 The worst team in the league will have a chance to improve because he will get his first choice of the rookies. This is a team changing event and enough IMO. What about the guy who loses his first pick to a career ending injury? This will happen too. Let the "market" work itself out. Like I have said before, the best will still rise to the top IMO. Dynasty is the best and for me the only way to play fantasy football. It is far more indepth and involved. Whether we picked the right people will determine how long the league continues, not rules like you are purposing. Competition, activety, trades, and friendship is what will make a dynasty successful. ~STICK That's a fair point. if you lose your 1st pick to a career ending injury, it only affects you for that year. next year you wouldn't be stuck with a guy that is out for life, you would have a chance to draft someone else in the 1st round. if you come in last, you'd rather have the 1st pick of college players, or LT2? Who is going to produce more for you that 1st year? you could still get that young college player in the second round,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted July 15, 2008 What will the flex position consist of? RB/WR/TE? Just want to clarify as some leagues allow QBs as a flex... I do prefer the "flex" spot over 3 WR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I see your good intentions - but no way we can do this. Then it would just be a gay-nasty league... Even though I am against snake drafts for dynasty leagues - we need to maintain roster integrity. We are already reversing next year's rookie draft, that is enough in my mind. That's exactly why I am for it. Again, I was not making an executive decision, I was merely throwing it out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted July 15, 2008 That's a fair point. if you lose your 1st pick to a career ending injury, it only affects you for that year. next year you wouldn't be stuck with a guy that is out for life, you would have a chance to draft someone else in the 1st round. if you come in last, you'd rather have the 1st pick of college players, or LT2? Who is going to produce more for you that 1st year? you could still get that young college player in the second round,. Yeah cause theres little to no difference between McFadden or what you would draft in the 2nd round right? ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 What will the flex position consist of? RB/WR/TE? Just want to clarify as some leagues allow QBs as a flex... correct. RB/WR/TE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah cause theres little to no difference between McFadden or what you would draft in the 2nd round right? ~STICK what are you talking about? take LT2 in the 1st round, then you take mcfadden in the 2nd round and then you have him for life. pretty simple really. How would your team get better than THAT? in one year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted July 15, 2008 Understood - I think the draft setup and reversing the rookie/FA draft next year is plenty. Makes it somewhat interesting for year 2 - then when year 3 hits, we'll be back to "normal" Again, I was not making an executive decision, I was merely throwing it out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted July 15, 2008 There is no arguing that the 1st round picks have the most value and I don't think it's fair whoever gets the 2nd pick should get AP for the next 6 years? Sure there is plenty of trading, but a guy like AP will not be traded. This is up for debate, I am not making the final ruling. Just throwing it out there. it will also keep the really bad teams for sucking too long, because they will have the 1st pick the next year if we do it this way,. Whoever comes in last gets the 1st pick next year,. it will either be LT2 or AP, right? Won't that keep people from quitting too? I haven't thought it through yet, but I may be on board. Seems that this makes the best position to be in as 12th, since you get to pick the first dynasty guy. But I suppose the "no brainer" guys will be gone by then so it's ok.....maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted July 15, 2008 I haven't thought it through yet, but I may be on board. Seems that this makes the best position to be in as 12th, since you get to pick the first dynasty guy. But I suppose the "no brainer" guys will be gone by then so it's ok.....maybe. I changed my mind. The last 5 posts convinced me it's not necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 Understood - I think the draft setup and reversing the rookie/FA draft next year is plenty. Makes it somewhat interesting for year 2 - then when year 3 hits, we'll be back to "normal" what are we going to do the 1st year? 25 man roster, must keep 20. then next year go to 30 and must keep 25? I am also really against allowing the last place team to get the 1st pick in the rookie draft. that is when you have people throwing the season. should we do an NBA style lottery for the 6 teams that don't make the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted July 15, 2008 Ed, we have a simple anti-tanking policy in our other dynasty leagues. If you are mathematically out of the playoffs and you begin to tank (defined as starting injured and/or bye week players) you simply lose your first round pick - it becomes a sandwich pick between round 1 and 2. OR - you can create a middle-bowl and toilet bowl where the winner gets an extra sandwich pick (1.13 and 2.13 respectively) - sometimes this approach keeps owners interested. Personally, I like doing a 25 man roster - and just keeping it there. When the rookie/FA draft comes up next year, you drop a player before you can draft one - OR we can expand rosters? what are we going to do the 1st year? 25 man roster, must keep 20. then next year go to 30 and must keep 25? I am also really against allowing the last place team to get the 1st pick in the rookie draft. that is when you have people throwing the season. should we do an NBA style lottery for the 6 teams that don't make the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted July 15, 2008 Understood - I think the draft setup and reversing the rookie/FA draft next year is plenty. Makes it somewhat interesting for year 2 - then when year 3 hits, we'll be back to "normal" I agree. Dropping 1st rd picks this year will complicate matters on so many levels way more than it needs to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick 2 Posted July 15, 2008 AT XDL we have a 14 team league 30 man roster. The bigger the better the more small trades you will have. 30 with 12 teams is ideal IMO. ~STICK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted July 15, 2008 I do a keeper league that has a weighted lottery for the teams that don't make the playoffs. It's worked well over the years. The thing about tanking is it can be very easy to spot, or it can be very subtle with the clever owner. I guess if it's subtle though, then people can't really do anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I do a keeper league that has a weighted lottery for the teams that don't make the playoffs. It's worked well over the years. The thing about tanking is it can be very easy to spot, or it can be very subtle with the clever owner. I guess if it's subtle though, then people can't really do anything about it. We'll do it like the NBA. 12th gets 6 chances, 11th gets 5, 10th gets 4, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted July 15, 2008 We'll do it like the NBA. 12th gets 6 chances, 11th gets 5, 10th gets 4, etc... That would be my suggestion. The worst teams may biatch, but in general it works out fairly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 I put my paypal info on the messageboard of MFL, please check and send your cash. We need to do that before the draft order,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted July 15, 2008 I put my paypal info on the messageboard of MFL, please check and send your cash. We need to do that before the draft order,. But then I won't have a chance to back out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 But then I won't have a chance to back out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted July 15, 2008 Do we need to add anything extra to cover paypal fees? Or just straight fitty? I put my paypal info on the messageboard of MFL, please check and send your cash. We need to do that before the draft order,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 15, 2008 Do we need to add anything extra to cover paypal fees? Or just straight fitty? $60 will cover the paypayl fee and the board fee. if there is any extra, I will add it to the winner i emailed the entire league the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites