gocolts 300 Posted July 16, 2008 link Government statistics released this week show that record numbers of women are having two or more abortions - and those who do so are not, as might be expected, young teenagers who don't know any better. Statistics show that last year 1,300 women had at least their fifth abortion. Almost 950 of those having a termination had already had four previously. Almost 200 had already had five, 110 had had six before and 54 seven or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 16, 2008 Yeah, condoms are dumb and very expensive. I support the rights of those tomatoes to keep up the good work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,594 Posted July 16, 2008 The Atlantic is an easy crossing for my albino sea monkeys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 link God hates abortion. Proverbs 6:16-17. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 God hates abortion. Proverbs 6:16-17. And yet, surprisingly, God designed the female body to naturally abort over 50% of the conceptions it bears. Odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 Is there a problem? woman doesn't want the kid, get rid of it. Everybody wins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 And yet, surprisingly, God designed the female body to naturally abort over 50% of the conceptions it bears. Odd. No, mankind's sin caused this. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 No, mankind's sin caused this. HTH God created sin. It's his fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 No, mankind's sin caused this. HTH So it's OK for innocent blood to be aborted naturally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 16, 2008 And yet, surprisingly, God designed the female body to naturally abort over 50% of the conceptions it bears. Odd. 49% of the time, it's caused by the uber responsible man kicking the broad in the stomach, then tossing them down the stairs just to make sure. Stupid dames. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 God created sin. It's his fault. No, Satan created sin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 So it's OK for innocent blood to be aborted naturally? A miscarriage is not an abortion numb nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 No, Satan created sin. What are you talking about? God created everything. Satan was one of his angels. Didn't you see Dogma? Sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 A miscarriage is not an abortion numb nuts. No it isn't, but you are!!! POW!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 What are you talking about? God created everything. Satan was one of his angels. Going to have to agree with Strike on this one. However, I'm not sure that evil (or sin) was ever created ex nihilo. Rather, I see it as a perversion of God. Although Satan doesn't have creative power, he does have perverting power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 A miscarriage is not an abortion numb nuts. Let's see what the field of medicine has to say about this: Miscarriage: The expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy. Also called spontaneous abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 What are you talking about? God created everything. Satan was created without sin, but he used his free moral will to try and exalt himself as the Christ, by sitting on the mercy seat he was protecting. He exalted himself as God, therefore he sinned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 Miscarriage: The expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy. Also called spontaneous abortion. I don't care what those evil liberal b@stards say about it, I only care what God says about it. Doctors are not my eternal judge, Christ is. A doctor can't save my soul from the Lake of fire, only Christ can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 Satan was created without sin, but he used his free moral will to try and exalt himself as the Christ, by sitting on the mercy seat he was protecting. He exalted himself as God, therefore he sinned. Dude, it's pretty simple. God created everything. Anything that exists, God created or created the means for it to exist and knew it would exist since he knows everything. Bottom line - he's responsible for sin. If he didn't want it to be here it wouldn't be. He has noone else to blame but himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 I don't care what those evil liberal b@stards say about it, I only care what God says about it. Doctors are not my eternal judge, Christ is. A doctor can't save my soul from the Lake of fire, only Christ can. So the entire field of medicine is run by evil liberal bastards? Would you go and see the evil liberal bastards if you had operable cancer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 Dude, it's pretty simple. God created everything. Anything that exists, God created or created the means for it to exist and knew it would exist since he knows everything. Bottom line - he's responsible for sin. If he didn't want it to be here it wouldn't be. He has noone else to blame but himself. If I created a bullet for a gun to shoot at tin cans, and somebody murdered a man with that bullet instead, am I responsible for the murderer's actions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 If I created a bullet for a gun to shoot at tin cans, and somebody murdered a man with that bullet instead, am I responsible for the murderer's actions? You aren't God. The same argument doesn't apply to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 So the entire field of medicine is run by evil liberal bastards? Would you go and see the evil liberal bastards if you had operable cancer? There are plenty of good Christian doctors in every hospital, but doctors who condone abortion, and associate a miscarriage with an abortion, are evil Godless b@stards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 You aren't God. The same argument doesn't apply to you. I stumped you numb nuts. you know I'm right. Apply God to the same question then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 16, 2008 The ease with which such women are undergoing repeat abortions has led campaigners to argue that terminations are being approved all too readily - given for social reasons rather than because a pregnancy might pose a significant risk to a mother's health or well-being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 You aren't God. The same argument doesn't apply to you. Although I do say it's worth creating things, even though their creation allows for the possibility of their misuse. For instance, sex outside of marriage is sin (as seen by The Bible). Creation of sex necessarily allowed the possibility for sex outside of marriage. But was its creation a bad thing? Hell no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 I stumped you numb nuts. you know I'm right. Apply God to the same question then. No, you're not right. You're not God. Thank God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 No, you're not right. You're not God. Thank God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 Although I do say it's worth creating things, even though their creation allows for the possibility of their misuse. For instance, sex outside of marriage is sin (as seen by The Bible). Creation of sex necessarily allowed the possibility for sex outside of marriage. But was its creation a bad thing? Hell no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Beast 1 Posted July 16, 2008 No, you're not right. You're not God. Thank God. I never claimed to be God. But God did not create sin, God created the free will to sin. Big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 Although I do say it's worth creating things, even though their creation allows for the possibility of their misuse. For instance, sex outside of marriage is sin (as seen by The Bible). Creation of sex necessarily allowed the possibility for sex outside of marriage. But was its creation a bad thing? Hell no. No doubt. God still has to take responsibility. And, quite honestly, if he didn't want it misused he could have created us that way. People seem to think that because God gave us free will that we were destined to sin and that's simply not true. God could have created our brains without the ability to sin if he'd wanted. It was his choice not to do that and that's fine. But he has to take the responsibility for it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 I never claimed to be God. But God did not create sin, God created the free will to sin. Big difference. But God is all knowing. Therefore, he knew the sin would happen. His responsibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PistonSteve 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Just curious....does the bible actually say that a miscarraige is not an abortion? It obviously isn't the same as a premeditated abortion, but the word abort means to fail or stop something...right? So if a woman has a miscarraige, isn't the pregnancy aborted? Thus, an abortion has occured? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 No doubt. God still has to take responsibility. And, quite honestly, if he didn't want it misused he could have created us that way. I agree. But I think that, in creating us with the ability to turn away from Him, He made our choice to follow Him that much more meaningful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted July 16, 2008 I agree. But I think that, in creating us with the ability to turn away from Him, He made our choice to follow Him that much more meaningful. If I were religious I might agree with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Just curious....does the bible actually say that a miscarraige is not an abortion? It obviously isn't the same as a premeditated abortion, but the word abort means to fail or stop something...right? So if a woman has a miscarraige, isn't the pregnancy aborted? Thus, an abortion has occured? No. It doesn't. SB is speculating or making things up, one of the two. The difference is that there's no action to produce the miscarriage, hence no moral culpability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 16, 2008 If I were religious I might agree with you Fair enough. I suppose that brings us to an impasse. Well argued though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 The difference is that there's no action to produce the miscarriage, hence no moral culpability. Who created human females so that their bodies would abort so many conceptions naturally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted July 16, 2008 Why does this have to get all religious? While I agree that women have the the right to abortion (sorry, Bible Thumpers), I think that women who abuse that right by failing to take proper precautions are only giving credibility to the folks that want to limit those rights. Abortion is not something that should be used as a substitute for birth control. I can understand a mistake or even a couple. When we start getting to 5, I have to question whether this is just too convenient and not thought through enough by those women. With that said, I am not sure of the statistics cited by gocolts as his sources are usually "suspect". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted July 16, 2008 If I created a bullet for a gun to shoot at tin cans, and somebody murdered a man with that bullet instead, am I responsible for the murderer's actions? Are you partly responsible? Yes Are you mostly responsible? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites