Bounceback players

[dschddny 0]

Which of these players do you see bouncing back to put up good numbers again this year, and which do you think are either done or just won't ever get back to the big numbers they've put up in the past? And why?

 

LT2

Addai

McGahee

Maroney

 

Roy Williams

Braylon Edwards

Ocho Cinco

Lee Evans

Chambers

 

Winslow

Shockey

 

Palmer

Hasselbeck

Bulger

[shutdown 40]

LT2 - Age and number of carries, I think last season was his last year as a fantasy RB1.

 

Addai - Too fragile and not effective inside the five yard line, Donald Brown was drafted for a reason. Addai has been my keeper for the last 3 years, I'll be throwing him back this season.

 

McGahee /Maroney - Both these guys can't seem to stay healthy for an entire season. I tend to play the odds and the odds say these guys will play 50 - 75% of the season at best. McGahee didn't look quick last season either, I'm not sure his knees have much left.

 

The RB I think breaks back into the top 10 RB's this year is Larry Johnson. He's still under 30 and doesn't have the wear on him that RB's his age have. I think if he stay's in KC he'll be a top 10 RB this year.

 

 

Roy Williams - I like Roy to have a good year, he's never lived up to his ability but I could see 1100yds and 8TD's in that system.

 

Braylon Edwards - Depends on where he ends up. I can't see him staying in Cleveland with them drafting two WR's and the staff there wanting to cut the ties to the prior regeim.

 

Ocho Cinco - I just don't have a feel for what he can do. If Palmer is fully healthy and Benson can provide a ground threat, Ocho could have a decent season. I don't think he'll be a top 5 type WR but could get close to top 10 if things fall out right. Bengals need to protect Palmer and run the ball some to make this happen. I think he could be undervalued in most drafts.

 

Lee Evans - Another player who's track record is established. Even in his big number seasons, he disappears for about half the season. I think TO on the other side only exacerbates that problem. He'll have some great games when he's single covered and catches a few deep balls, if not, the focus of the passing game will be on TO and Evans will be non-existent. Not worth where you'd have to draft him at.

 

Chambers - Again, too much history says he can't put up solid numbers for an entire season. If Gates is healthy and Vincent Jackson takes red zone targets Chambers is a guy who will have a 3 - 4 very good games but won't be the consistent WR you need on your team. He'll put up as many 2 -3 point games as he will 10+ point games.

 

Winslow - Not sure how the offense in Tampa will come together but I think that expecting him to be what he was two seasons ago is expecting too much for a team that's in transition. He'll probably be drafted above where he'll produce based on name recognition.

 

Shockey - Not going to post Gates or last years Gonzalez numbers but should be drafted in the second tier of TE's solely based on the productivity of that offense. Brees spreads the ball around well so that will keep him in the mix for yards and TD's a long as he can stay on the field.

 

Palmer - He's a stud and should be a value in the draft after last year. If cincy can run the ball just a little I like him to be a solid starter.

 

Hasselbeck - Another play I don't have a feel for but I could see him rebounding now that Seattle has a consistent WR in Housh to help him out. I don't think the Seahawks are as bad as they played last season and are not rebuilding. I'd be okay with Hass as my starting QB this year and I think you can get him more cheaply than a lot of other QB's because of his disappointing season last year.

 

Bulger - That team is rebuilding. No proven WR's (Lets see what avery does in a full season as the top WR threat), revamping the OL. Yeah Jackson is a beast, but I don't see Bulger as anything but an above average #2 QB. At his age I think the rams should have moved him to a contending team that he could actually help and he'd have been a better prospect from a fantasy standpoint.

[roroco 75]

I would add...

 

Ryan Grant... He came off an injury early in the year. He was running fairly well by the end of the year. I suspect he will put up reasonable numbers with a healthy camp. Maybe not top 10, but he will be a value pick late 2nd/3rd rounds.

 

LaMont Jordan... The rookie might get the snaps near the end of the season if I am wrong, but I really liked this guy at UMD and I think he has not had a fair opportunity in the NFL yet.

 

Ronnie Brown... Probably one of the most talented backs that gets no respect... Kinda like Fred Taylor to the masses.

[enis_44 0]

Carson Palmer probably has the highest cealing out of your list, and a decent chance to realize it. Couple that with a relatively low draft position this year, and he could be a real steal.

 

LT2 I think will be ok, but he'll still be drafted in round 1 or early round 2, so there's no real value there. The only sleeper chance he has is if you get him low round 1 and he performs as the #1 guy. I'm not gonna bet on it though.

 

The rest of the list does nothing for me. If they are around late, I'd take a flier or two, but I wouldn't be using good picks on guys like Roy or Lamont.

[worm 36]

I'm going to say David Garrard. They got him some good protection in the draft, MJD is still MJD, and they've added one of the most reliable WR's in the league with Holt. Now I don't think he'll be up in the top QB's, but he should be back to his 2007 form and be a safe, low turnover, low-to-mid QB1 option.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

what would qualify as a bounce back year for LT2? another record setter?

 

you people realize he had 1500+ total yards and 12 total td's right?

 

why is he on this list?

[TUM301 10]

Looking for Marion Barber to be under valued this season in most ff drafts. T O is finally out of there and I think the boys go to a more ball controlled, 3 headed monster, running attack keeping Romo out of trouble. Barber will probabley slip into the early/middle 2`nd round and could become a hell of #2 RB for those teams. Expect around 250 carries for 1100 yds. 45+ catches for 300 and 12=14 tds.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

LT2- No. He hit the 30 yr old wall. Last years #'s are now his ceiling, especially with Sproles' role being expanded.

Addai- RBBC with Brown. He needs to show some toughness.

McGahee- No. I expect to see more Ron Rice this season

Maroney- Initially I'd say no, but who knows in New England, especially with a new HC. Fred Taylor will get touches.

 

Roy Williams- Yes! a guy I'm targeting this upcoming season with Princess Owens out of the picture.

Braylon Edwards- Nope. Slight improvement over last season if he can hang onto passes a little better. Cleveland will be in the running for the #1 draft pick in 2010

 

Ocho Cinco- This guys a clown. Still you have to expect an improvement if Palmer can stay healthy. Don't expect him to ever be the same player that he was back in 04.

 

Lee Evans- I'm expecting big things finally having a big-time decoy on the other side.

Chambers- No because he's Chris Chambers. I'm over him.

 

Winslow- I wouldnt expect much more then what he's been averaging. He's an injury-prone assclown

Shockey- another overrated, injury-prone assclown. I was high on him last year, I won't make the same mistake this season.

 

Palmer- Health willing, maybe.

Hasselbeck- see above. I'm trying to be homerly optimistic, but until he starts taking hits, who knows?

Bulger- meh. The o-line can't be any worse but now Holt is gone. I wouldnt touch him unless I was desperate.

[BoltAddiction 0]

what would qualify as a bounce back year for LT2? another record setter?

 

you people realize he had 1500+ total yards and 12 total td's right?

 

why is he on this list?

 

I think the question had to be gauging how a player would perform against their own career average. Its not against other players or Maroney and McGahee should have never been uttered in the same breath as LT2. LT2 has to be on this list, because he was drafted first in almost every format and his production dropped by over 25% against his career averages. Nobody drafted LT2 at No.1 only to see eight or so other running backs who weren't drafted in the first round, outperform him.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

I think the question had to be gauging how a player would perform against their own career average. Its not against other players or Maroney and McGahee should have never been uttered in the same breath as LT2. LT2 has to be on this list, because he was drafted first in almost every format and his production dropped by over 25% against his career averages. Nobody drafted LT2 at No.1 only to see eight or so other running backs who weren't drafted in the first round, outperform him.

 

Tomlinson was 5th amongst RB's in my PPR leagues last season...

 

So I guess the answer to "what would qualify as a bounce back year for LT2? another record setter?" is yes

 

none of the other players on this list even sniffed the top 10 at their positons.

[Ras66not99 0]

Lee Evans- I'm expecting big things finally having a big-time decoy on the other side.

Evans has had one of the rawest deals Ive remembered so far as a pro..... The fact that he's had no help isn't my biggest concern even though in a way it is one of the reasons..... Having that vanilla coach Juron and that bland a$$ play calling over there due to their inability to block anything is the reason... not to mention the collection of pigs that have been trying to get him the rock from the QB spot....

 

This guy has been trapped in fantasy hell, and now thanks to the Bills starting off hot last season (why he signed his contract extention) he'll remain trapped in hell....

 

I can only pray what I read last week (pasted below) is REALLY in the Bills plans and ###### Juron has realized change/shaking things up, can be a good thing....

 

A Bills team source says the team is "gearing up" to run a no-huddle offense this season.

OC Turk Schonert learned the no-huddle under former Bengals coach Sam Wyche, who popularized the attack in the 1980s. Ideally the up-tempo, three-receiver offense would take advantage of the Bills' upgrade in skill position players while minimizing their weakness on the offensive line. Trent Edwards, whose best attributes are intelligence and accuracy, is a great fit for the no-huddle.

 

If this is the case Evans will be making BIG plays all over the field in 09... my $ .02

[jerryskids 6,795]

Roy is da man now (well, after Witten, maybe Barber, perhaps Jones) but at WR he is da MAN!@# Seriously, I think he has the most upside; his lack of performance last year was strange. He has nothing but upside at this point.

 

Palmer, meh... no Housh, prolly no Stinko, I'd stay away.

[Lionsjunkie 1]

LT2 - Age and number of carries, I think last season was his last year as a fantasy RB1.

 

Addai - Too fragile and not effective inside the five yard line, Donald Brown was drafted for a reason. Addai has been my keeper for the last 3 years, I'll be throwing him back this season.

 

McGahee /Maroney - Both these guys can't seem to stay healthy for an entire season. I tend to play the odds and the odds say these guys will play 50 - 75% of the season at best. McGahee didn't look quick last season either, I'm not sure his knees have much left.

 

The RB I think breaks back into the top 10 RB's this year is Larry Johnson. He's still under 30 and doesn't have the wear on him that RB's his age have. I think if he stay's in KC he'll be a top 10 RB this year.

Roy Williams - I like Roy to have a good year, he's never lived up to his ability but I could see 1100yds and 8TD's in that system.

 

Braylon Edwards - Depends on where he ends up. I can't see him staying in Cleveland with them drafting two WR's and the staff there wanting to cut the ties to the prior regeim.

 

Ocho Cinco - I just don't have a feel for what he can do. If Palmer is fully healthy and Benson can provide a ground threat, Ocho could have a decent season. I don't think he'll be a top 5 type WR but could get close to top 10 if things fall out right. Bengals need to protect Palmer and run the ball some to make this happen. I think he could be undervalued in most drafts.

 

Lee Evans - Another player who's track record is established. Even in his big number seasons, he disappears for about half the season. I think TO on the other side only exacerbates that problem. He'll have some great games when he's single covered and catches a few deep balls, if not, the focus of the passing game will be on TO and Evans will be non-existent. Not worth where you'd have to draft him at.

 

Chambers - Again, too much history says he can't put up solid numbers for an entire season. If Gates is healthy and Vincent Jackson takes red zone targets Chambers is a guy who will have a 3 - 4 very good games but won't be the consistent WR you need on your team. He'll put up as many 2 -3 point games as he will 10+ point games.

 

Winslow - Not sure how the offense in Tampa will come together but I think that expecting him to be what he was two seasons ago is expecting too much for a team that's in transition. He'll probably be drafted above where he'll produce based on name recognition.

 

Shockey - Not going to post Gates or last years Gonzalez numbers but should be drafted in the second tier of TE's solely based on the productivity of that offense. Brees spreads the ball around well so that will keep him in the mix for yards and TD's a long as he can stay on the field.

 

Palmer - He's a stud and should be a value in the draft after last year. If cincy can run the ball just a little I like him to be a solid starter.

 

Hasselbeck - Another play I don't have a feel for but I could see him rebounding now that Seattle has a consistent WR in Housh to help him out. I don't think the Seahawks are as bad as they played last season and are not rebuilding. I'd be okay with Hass as my starting QB this year and I think you can get him more cheaply than a lot of other QB's because of his disappointing season last year.

 

Bulger - That team is rebuilding. No proven WR's (Lets see what avery does in a full season as the top WR threat), revamping the OL. Yeah Jackson is a beast, but I don't see Bulger as anything but an above average #2 QB. At his age I think the rams should have moved him to a contending team that he could actually help and he'd have been a better prospect from a fantasy standpoint.

 

Good post

[Raider 84 29]

I think L.Evans can bounce back.

 

R. Willilams? Are you serious? Did anyone watch him play last year. He has had one decent year in his career. I'm staying far away from him.

 

I think Hasselbeck will bounce back, he has to stay healthy which is a major concern.

[Franknbeans 46]

Santonio Holmes. It seemed nearly everyone had the torch passing from Hines to Santonio last season only to see Holmes disappoint. Now that he caught the Superbowl winning TD and more importatnly, told Ben to feed him the rock on the game winning drive, he will see an increase in confidence and production this season. Ben will look to him in important situations equally or moreso than he has with Hines in the past meaning more scoring and more consistent production over last year.

[enis_44 0]

Roy is da man now (well, after Witten, maybe Barber, perhaps Jones) but at WR he is da MAN!@# Seriously, I think he has the most upside; his lack of performance last year was strange. He has nothing but upside at this point.

 

Palmer, meh... no Housh, prolly no Stinko, I'd stay away.

Roy Williams is the most over-hyped and under-performing player in fantasy football for the last 5 years running. I'll pass.

[nordwave 2]

what would qualify as a bounce back year for LT2? another record setter?

you people realize he had 1500+ total yards and 12 total td's right?

 

I'm guessing you didn't own him last year?

I did.

 

Sure, those stats make for a nice year in the NFL.

But it was a disappointing FANTASY year, especially if you drafted him 1st or 2nd overall.

 

THREE of those TDs came in Week 17. Who did that help?

HALF of his TDs for the entire season came between Weeks 13 - 17.

That's great if you made the playoffs, but LT certainly didn't help you GET to the playoffs.

 

If he winds up with the same stats at the end of this year, but is more consistent week to week and stays healthy, I'd call that a bounce back and a more productive FANTASY season.

[BoltAddiction 0]

Tomlinson was 5th amongst RB's in my PPR leagues last season...

 

So I guess the answer to "what would qualify as a bounce back year for LT2? another record setter?" is yes

 

none of the other players on this list even sniffed the top 10 at their positons.

 

Week 17 definitely skewed Tomlinson's stats and few leagues benefited from that. Also, in non-PPR standard scoring leagues, Tomlinson had 12 weeks of 15 or less points and his best week (not counting 17) was a 23.

 

The most telling sign of whether or not he is a bounceback player however, is that my league champion last year benched Tomlinson in favor of Pierre Thomas in the week 16 championship game. The Tomlinson of old was never benched for a more favorable match-up, especially for a player who came off of free agency.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

I'm guessing you didn't own him last year?

I did.

 

Sure, those stats make for a nice year in the NFL.

But it was a disappointing FANTASY year, especially if you drafted him 1st or 2nd overall.

 

THREE of those TDs came in Week 17. Who did that help?

HALF of his TDs for the entire season came between Weeks 13 - 17.

That's great if you made the playoffs, but LT certainly didn't help you GET to the playoffs.

 

If he winds up with the same stats at the end of this year, but is more consistent week to week and stays healthy, I'd call that a bounce back and a more productive FANTASY season.

 

i did own him in my keeper league.

 

you make some good points but in all fairness for PPR leagues he averaged 17.5 fantasy points per game. DeAngelo was tops at 19.2 and some of his big 4 TD games skewed his numbers as well!

 

Look, it was obviously a down year by LT standards, I just question why this guy is on a list with players who again didn't sniff the top 10 at their positions. I guess what I'm saying is how big of a bounceback do you really think Tomlinson can make? I think too many people are living in his record setting days. Those days are gone.

 

Also you site his consistancy, granted I only play in PPR's but he put up double digit fantasy points in all but week 2, and had 14 or more points in all but 4 weeks.

Was he the most consistant back? no but for comparison DeAngelo had 4 games under 10 fantasy points, MJD had 5, Michael Turner had 4, Thomas Jones had 4, Westy had 5 and missed 2 games as well, ADP had 5, Chris Jonhson had 5.....

[pimptastic69 0]

I don't understand how Carson Palmer is expected to bounce back but Chad Johnson is not. How will that happen with the absence of 2 pro-bowl WR's? Do you really think 'Vern Coles and Chris Henry are good enough to bring Palmer back to prominence?

 

I don't really like Chad Johnson, and he's an "assclown" and all that, but he's still an elite player that just came off of a bad year.

[nordwave 2]

Also you site his consistancy, granted I only play in PPR's but he put up double digit fantasy points in all but week 2

 

I had him in a .5 PPR league, so I guess that's where we differ.

I don't expect a record-breaking season, but I would still call it a "bounce back" if I owned him and he maintained the "start him, don't think twice" status he is known for. Last year I debated sitting him on several occasions due to his injuries. And Sproles out-scored him several weeks in my league just on Return Yardage.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

I had him in a .5 PPR league, so I guess that's where we differ.

I don't expect a record-breaking season, but I would still call it a "bounce back" if I owned him and he maintained the "start him, don't think twice" status he is known for. Last year I debated sitting him on several occasions due to his injuries. And Sproles out-scored him several weeks in my league just on Return Yardage.

 

i think what has me a little upset is the rest of the names on this list... I don't think it would be possible for LT to "bounce back" in the capacity the rest of these guys would have to.

 

But i do see your point. I had to think twice a few times last year due to injuries as well and if he can manage a 1400 12-13 td season he will have bounced back to some degree.