thesitedoc 5 Posted September 23, 2011 Just worth noting. Possibly related to lingering shoulder issue and the fact the Bush can be very productive in the part of the game as well. Might be a chance to trade McFadden for #1 value at RB and #2 at another position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truck Jackson 0 Posted September 23, 2011 this looks legit, source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tplbge 2 Posted September 23, 2011 In watching the game last weekend, Michael Bush came in on most of the goalline packages. They have the Jets this weekend, but the schedule looks pretty favorable after that. As a McFadden owner, i'm not concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted September 23, 2011 He wasn't the goal line back anyways. What are you worrying about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACL's 0 Posted September 23, 2011 He wasn't the goal line back anyways. What are you worrying about? Yes, I do believe this is relatively old news. McFadden is what you think he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 23, 2011 Yes, I do believe this is relatively old news. McFadden is what you think he is. Old school Raider fan here... Why are we having this conversation? Between 1999 and 2003 Zach Crockett had 233 rushing carries and scored 34 rushing touchdowns as the Oakland GL back. THIRTY FOUR. That's almost 1 TD for every 7 carries! This is what the Raiders do, and anybody with a clue should know it's buyer beware. Having said that, the premiere RB is a critical piece of the Raider vertical offense. McFadden, if the dude can stay healthy, is as good an all around RB as they've had since Marcus Allen (Bo got hurt before Marcus left.) Garner was very good, but McFadden is more talented, IMO. There's plenty of cheddar for McFadden even with Bush pulling a Crockett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted September 23, 2011 Yeah. I mean, I'd love for him to give me 1800 yards and 20 TDs, but I'll be fine with 1800 yards and 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesitedoc 5 Posted September 23, 2011 Wel I think that this was mentioned coming out of Oakland camp signifies a slight change in thought or strategy. I seem to recall it wasnt necessarily official that he would be losing goal line carries. It now seems that they will game plan to pull himinthose situations. Maybe only a 2-4 shift in td totals but worth noting I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACL's 0 Posted September 23, 2011 Old school Raider fan here... Why are we having this conversation? Between 1999 and 2003 Zach Crockett had 233 rushing carries and scored 34 rushing touchdowns as the Oakland GL back. THIRTY FOUR. That's almost 1 TD for every 7 carries! This is what the Raiders do, and anybody with a clue should know it's buyer beware. Having said that, the premiere RB is a critical piece of the Raider vertical offense. McFadden, if the dude can stay healthy, is as good an all around RB as they've had since Marcus Allen (Bo got hurt before Marcus left.) Garner was very good, but McFadden is more talented, IMO. There's plenty of cheddar for McFadden even with Bush pulling a Crockett. Absolutely! What I thought McFadden was in college was an outstanding back with as much talent that has come through that school. And he's showing it in the NFL. I love McFadden and my play on words didn't mean I dislike him. Actually, he is being exactly what I thought he would be: outstanding. But I think we all knew he wasn't going to get every goal line carry. Do you believe him to be as good a receiver as Marcus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACL's 0 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't mean to hijack the thread but the mention of Marcus Allen sparked some great fantasy memories. He belonged to me in 1984 and 1985 and I looked up his stats on Pro Football Reference: 1985: 1759 yds rushing, 11 touchdowns, 555 yards receiving, 3 td's. 67 receptions. 1984: 1168 yds rushing, 18 touchdowns, 758 yards receiving, 5 td's, 64 receptions. He was fantasy gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamageIncVacc 6 Posted September 23, 2011 Bush (And Cambell) was and is the goal line back.. Not exactly a new revelation. should not change anything. McFadden gets 20+ carries a game and a handfull of receptions.. as for Bush he has the issues. Cambell and the FB steal his GL carries.. they took 4 or 5 so far as I can count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 23, 2011 Do you believe him to be as good a receiver as Marcus? Oh no, absolutely not. And when it comes to blocking McFadden isn't even on the same planet. Marcus Allen was the best blocking halfback in the NFL west of Soldier Field. And he was probably a better passer than Jason Campbell as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't mean to hijack the thread but the mention of Marcus Allen sparked some great fantasy memories. He belonged to me in 1984 and 1985 and I looked up his stats on Pro Football Reference: 1985: 1759 yds rushing, 11 touchdowns, 555 yards receiving, 3 td's. 67 receptions. 1984: 1168 yds rushing, 18 touchdowns, 758 yards receiving, 5 td's, 64 receptions. He was fantasy gold. As a Raider fan, with all of Marcus Allen's feats, the stat line I remember most is the 33 rushes for 133 yard beat down he threw on us Christmas Eve of 1994, as a Kansas City Chief, to knock the Los Angeles Raiders out of the playoffs. I still remember the story of the beat writers screaming up towards Al Davis' luxury box: "Way to go A**hole!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sketch27 1 Posted September 23, 2011 As a Raider fan, with all of Marcus Allen's feats, the stat line I remember most is the 33 rushes for 133 yard beat down he threw on us Christmas Eve of 1994, as a Kansas City Chief, to knock the Los Angeles Raiders out of the playoffs. I still remember the story of the beat writers screaming up towards Al Davis' luxury box: "Way to go A**hole!!!" I'm just surprised he hasn't been assassinated by a raiders fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted September 23, 2011 I'm just surprised he hasn't been assassinated by a raiders fan He has. You've seen Weekend at Bernie's right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 23, 2011 I think it would be news if McFadden was to be "getting some" goal line carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 23, 2011 What an extremely strange OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas10 15 Posted September 23, 2011 What an extremely strange OP. I know, hasn't Bush had the goal line carries since 500 B.C.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites