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Posse Comitatus

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(can't imagine the thread titles that'll spin off of this one)

 

Eric Holder has said that theoretically, the US can kill US citizens using drones (military) on US soil.

 

Question: Wouldn't that violate Posse Commitatus?

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A link would help

http://news.msn.com/us/ag-drone-strikes-in-us-may-be-ok-in-extraordinary-circumstance

 

I would love to see the reasoning that Holder gives for this one.

I would also like to see the reasoning that Big Sis gives for this one:

 

Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile

 

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

 

Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

 

The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

 

DHS even released a video on their newly purchased MRAPs.

 

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

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Moron. :wave:

 

 

Where in the video does it say The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States. :lol:

 

oh, right, it doesn't. It was the blog quoting another blog :doh:

 

but wait, there's more! Here's the quote from the blog that your blog quoted:

the Department of Homeland Security is apparently taking delivery (apparently through the U.S. Army Forces Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico VA, via the manufacturer – Navistar Defense LLC) of an undetermined number of the recently retrofitted 2,717 ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ MaxxPro MRAP vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

 

:overhead:

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Where in the video does it say The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States. :lol:

 

oh, right, it doesn't. It was the blog quoting another blog :doh:

Feel free to bring a denial from Big Sis, dumbass. :thumbsup:

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Feel free to bring a denial from Big Sis, dumbass. :thumbsup:

So, you post a link of a blog quoting another blog, and a video which also doesn't contain the claim made in the blogs, but I have "bring" a denial from Holder? :wacko:

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So, you post a link of a blog quoting another blog, and a video which also doesn't contain the claim made in the blogs, but I have "bring" a denial from Holder? :wacko:

 

That line of reasoning is eerily reminiscent of a certain 9% body fat Christian warrior in a creationism thread.

 

:unsure:

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Sec4.  Using National Security Assets for Law and Order.  (a)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies as appropriate, shall increase the provision of excess military and national security assets in local jurisdictions to assist State and local law enforcement.
(b)  Within 90 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Attorney General, shall determine how military and national security assets, training, non-lethal capabilities, and personnel can most effectively be utilized to prevent crime.


The President has by executive order (aka imperial fiat) overridden the Posse Comitatus Act.

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On 3/6/2013 at 9:21 AM, wiffleball said:

Question: Wouldn't that violate Posse Commitatus?

Yes, but you the government have to kill someone on US soil to violate Posse Comitatus, it's any use of military domestically.

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