DankNuggs 305 Posted August 5, 2014 Anyone hot on verren? Last year there was a Ton of hype. He did get hurt. I also think Brady is being a little under valued. He didn't have gronk or verren and Amendola for most if the year. Vereen's wrist still isn't 100%, that makes me a little worried about him. He looked like he was going to be a beast the first couple games last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 6, 2014 Markus Wheaton, M. Wallace, K. Benjamin, A. Williams, T. Romo, R. White, J. Maclin, G. Olsen, T. Williams. .. Notice any position missing? I just don't see an deep value. .. I'm sure it'll come but nothing that sticks out like previous years for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 6, 2014 Bell is not a handcuff, he's an alternative. Some are even taking bush after Bell. Cooks will prob get over drafted. I have fantasies of getting him as my wr4 even if going rb rb. Prob not gonna happen. People saying pierce will take rices job are still in last years preseason. Pierce got his shot and sucked. Vereen is an awesome prospect but destined to be forever fools gold to me. People chasing his potential that never quite delivers a breakout season. Gerhart is intriguing but he's kind of like the shiniest turd in the poo pile in jax. Besides the fact that white people arent as good at football, i don't start rbs on teams that don't get 1st downs. I need my guy to have ample opportunities all game long including 4th qtr. that means the team has to be winning or close, not out of it by halftime and throwing in garbage time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teeoh 0 Posted August 6, 2014 I just hope jax can get at least average qb play or it will stacked boxes all year for Toby. but I do like the amount of touches he will get nontheless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teeoh 0 Posted August 6, 2014 lol I guess u guys set me straight on pierce. to be fair the ravens running game as a whole sucked last year maybe it was play calling/ bad blocking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 6, 2014 Bell is not a handcuff, he's an alternative. Some are even taking bush after Bell. Cooks will prob get over drafted. I have fantasies of getting him as my wr4 even if going rb rb. Prob not gonna happen. People saying pierce will take rices job are still in last years preseason. Pierce got his shot and sucked. Vereen is an awesome prospect but destined to be forever fools gold to me. People chasing his potential that never quite delivers a breakout season. Gerhart is intriguing but he's kind of like the shiniest turd in the poo pile in jax. Besides the fact that white people arent as good at football, i don't start rbs on teams that don't get 1st downs. I need my guy to have ample opportunities all game long including 4th qtr. that means the team has to be winning or close, not out of it by halftime and throwing in garbage time. He is being drafted in the fourth and not the first second or third. Backs like joique (isnt even the starter), chris johnson (geno smith and a boring offense), sankey (rookie on a suspect offense), trich (even worse than rice last year), ryan mathews (yeah he has broken more than a few fantasy dreams), shane vereen (can be good but plays for belichik and has injury issues) are the rbs typically going around/after gerhart. How are those options so much better again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted August 6, 2014 Stafford. Last year he averaged 12.5 yards per catch on his passes. His wideouts led the league with 44 dropped passes. His new security blanket in Golden Tate has dropped less passes in 3 years at 5 than stafford gets in just 2 games. @ 12.5 extra yards per catch x 44 catches he would have put up an extra 550 yards which would have put him at his highest yardage total of his career. 5,200 yards. What is the next logical step in this analysis? No incompletions or interceptions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted August 6, 2014 The interceptions would go down I would think. But say he gets drew brees type of production from his 1 and 2 and ebron actually is not a bust and can catch the ball. brees had the fewest drops of any qb last year at 13. You would still be looking at 380 yards extra and at least a few more tds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 6, 2014 He is being drafted in the fourth and not the first second or third. Backs like joique (isnt even the starter), chris johnson (geno smith and a boring offense), sankey (rookie on a suspect offense), trich (even worse than rice last year), ryan mathews (yeah he has broken more than a few fantasy dreams), shane vereen (can be good but plays for belichik and has injury issues) are the rbs typically going around/after gerhart. How are those options so much better again? Well its noty a slam dunk but there are def arguments for all of those guys being better than Gerhart. joique- Explosive offense, has looked good before. CJ0k- Done it before, jets have mobile qb wich helps rbs. Sankey- COULD have opportunity, explosive college player, team that let CJ0k be a top 10 rb last year. TRich- potential bounceback, on a good offense that keeps D honest. Mathews- Has been a top 10 rb a few times now at least in quietly good seasons despite maddening history. Good offense. Vereen- Plays with a top team and has big potential. versatile. Like I said, not all no brainers but you asked for an argument for these guys and thats the best I can come up with. You could put Gerhart above or below all of these guys and I wouldnt say it was crazy. I personally have him below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saut 7 Posted August 7, 2014 I find myself securing an elite WR1 early, then ignoring the position until about the 7th round. In 3-6 I'm loading up on as many of these RBs as I can get: Stacy Morris Mathews ---------- JBell CJ1K Rice Trich Sankey Will be happy with any combination of the top half and the bottom half forming my RB2/3/4 group. If Michael Floyd is available in 5 I will probably take him, but generally I'm not seeing any WRs that I like in the early middle. After that I am looking at one of these guys to emerge as a solid WR2: Terrence Williams Reuben Randle DeAndre Hopkins Tavon Austin Aaron Dobson Kenny Stills Justin Hunter Cecil Shorts Generally I can land over half of those guys in mocks, and one of them has to pan out, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 220 Posted August 7, 2014 Guys you will TRY to draft The best ones! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted August 7, 2014 I would much rather take fliers at RB than WR personally...especially in rounds 4-9. That's bread and butter time. Not a chance in hell I EVER take the likes of Terrance Williams or Shorts as my WR2 with "upside" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saut 7 Posted August 7, 2014 I'm not thrilled about taking the likes of Mike Wallace or Eric Decker in those rounds either. Of course this is a bit distorted for me, I'm preparing mostly for a draft in which I have no 2nd or 4th round pick. Certain sacrifices need to be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted August 7, 2014 Well I'm in an auction league so I'm trying to get a list of guys I should draft. So far from this thread I'm thinking people like Hilton,Gerhart,Williams...this year has been real tuff not A lot of sleepers like in years past. Last year A.brown,Hilton,Gordon were high on a lot of people list in Ff today. This year it's all over the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
