No Govt Shutdown

[BrahmaBulls 659]

9 hours ago, thegeneral said:

The MAGA nuts going to have the new little wimp Speaker’s head on a pile?

You know Donald is directing them to do everything they can to tank it.

You drive a wimpy EV

[thegeneral 3,121]

41 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

You drive a wimpy EV

Are you sick of riding the bus and need a ride or something?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

43 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

You drive a wimpy EV

It’s a Prius with an “I’m with her” and a co-exist bumper sticker. 

[thegeneral 3,121]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a Prius with an “I’m with her” and a co-exist bumper sticker. 

I’m going a Blazer with one primer door, some duct tape, and a Trump as Rambo sticker

[The Psychic Observer 498]

22 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It's easy to spot the insecure micros.  They are always popping off about how much money they make, how big their houses are, how hot their wives are, how fast their cars/big their trucks are.  Its pretty funny.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

15 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’m going a Blazer with one primer door, some duct tape, and a Trump as Rambo sticker

Nope. Not even close. 

[thegeneral 3,121]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nope. Not even close. 

Oh shucks.

[Ron_Artest 1,333]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Oh shucks.

Imagine what a sad life it must be to have to define your manliness by a car.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Oh shucks.

Mine starts when it’s cold. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Imagine what a sad life it must be to have to define your manliness by a car.

Can’t be worse than having multitudes of aliases stored up all for a lightly trafficked message board. Imagine taking the time to do that? Pathetic.  

[thegeneral 3,121]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mine starts when it’s cold. 

As long as you keep gas in it and the battery charged

[jerryskids 6,732]

Just now, thegeneral said:

As long as you keep gas in it and the battery charged

Umm, I'd stay down for this one.  You are looking foolish.   

[Baker Boy 1,694]

11 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Huge L for the MAGA types here  

This is a huge loss for the American people.
 

Interest payments on the national debt were $475 billion in fiscal year 2022 — the highest dollar amount ever. Interest costs grew 35 percent last year and are projected to grow by another 35 percent in 2023.

[thegeneral 3,121]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Umm, I'd stay down for this one.  You are looking foolish.   

These focking weirdos talking cars calling people gay are def the ones to align with

Good stuff, Jere!

[Ron_Artest 1,333]

4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

This is a huge loss for the American people.
 

Interest payments on the national debt were $475 billion in fiscal year 2022 — the highest dollar amount ever. Interest costs grew 35 percent last year and are projected to grow by another 35 percent in 2023.

It's a shame Donald Trump added $8.2T to the national debt during his 4 year term, more than any president in history.  YUGE loss for the American people.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These focking weirdos talking cars calling people gay are def the ones to align with

Good stuff, Jere!

I didn’t mention where you put your gherkin. Don’t care. Just took a guess. Looks like it was accurate.  

[thegeneral 3,121]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I didn’t mention where you put your gherkin. Don’t care. Just took a guess. Looks like it was accurate.  

Look HT, I understand you are curious. That is fine and I accept you as you are. It’s just not for me. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,273]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Look HT, I understand you are curious. That is fine and I accept you as you are. It’s just not for me. 

More originality. Glad you have joined us.  We weren’t getting this type of unique content before. 

[thegeneral 3,121]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More originality. Glad you have joined us.  We weren’t getting this type of unique content before. 

Right, this place flows with original content

In any case I support you and Brahabulls late life journeys! 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

16 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's a shame Donald Trump added $8.2T to the national debt during his 4 year term, more than any president in history.  YUGE loss for the American people.

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

% is debt to GDP ratio

2016	$19,573	105%	Brexit
2017	$20,245	104%	Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018	$21,516	105%	Trump tax cuts
2019	$22,719	107%	Trade wars
2020	$27,748	129%	COVID-19 and 2020 recession
2021	$29,617	124%	COVID-19 and American Rescue Plan Act
2022	$30,824	123%	Inflation Reduction Act and student loan forgiveness

[BrahmaBulls 659]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Right, this place flows with original content

In any case I support you and Brahabulls late life journeys! 

I'm not on the Squistion gay bus like you are.  NTTAWWT

[Ron_Artest 1,333]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

% is debt to GDP ratio

2016	$19,573	105%	Brexit
2017	$20,245	104%	Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018	$21,516	105%	Trump tax cuts
2019	$22,719	107%	Trade wars
2020	$27,748	129%	COVID-19 and 2020 recession
2021	$29,617	124%	COVID-19 and American Rescue Plan Act
2022	$30,824	123%	Inflation Reduction Act and student loan forgiveness

Thanks for th data to back up my claim.

It's sad I know, he really screwed us.

[jerryskids 6,732]

27 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These focking weirdos talking cars calling people gay are def the ones to align with

Good stuff, Jere!

That has nothing to do with the fact that "mine starts when it's cold" was a good zinger for an EV driver, and your response was weak.

Also don't be Rusty/Pimpadeaux with the laugh emoticons, it looks dumb.   Don't tell him though, he thinks he looks super cool.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Thanks for th data to back up my claim.

It's sad I know, he really screwed us.

Trump wasn't the highest % wise which is a better reflection.

https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/banking/national-debt-by-president/

Reagan almost tripled the debt, Bush doubled it.  Trump's increase was 40%.  So far Biden sits at 6%, much much better.

It's a long time fallacy that republicans care about Govt spending

[jerryskids 6,732]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Thanks for th data to back up my claim.

It's sad I know, he really screwed us.

Dear jeebus, it's a miracle your brain remembers to make you breathe.   

[Baker Boy 1,694]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Thanks for th data to back up my claim.

It's sad I know, he really screwed us.

This response explains a lot.

[Ron_Artest 1,333]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Dear jeebus, it's a miracle your brain remembers to make you breathe.   

MIT education level insult

[jerryskids 6,732]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump wasn't the highest % wise which is a better reflection.

https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/banking/national-debt-by-president/

Reagan almost tripled the debt, Bush doubled it.  Trump's increase was 40%.  So far Biden sits at 6%, much much better.

It's a long time fallacy that republicans care about Govt spending

No, it's not better.  Trump was on a typical slow increase until 2020 with Covid which should have been a one-off situation, and the amount reduced thereafter.  But Biden has continued to build off of that one-off spending.  Every year of his is incredibly more than we should be spending based on historical trends.  HTH

Simple-minded Leftists, the party of science but apparently not math, refuse to understand this.  I just mentioned it above to Rusty, and typically Raven Fan comes in with a "but this one goes to 11" level comment.

[thegeneral 3,121]

Just now, jerryskids said:

That has nothing to do with the fact that "mine starts when it's cold" was a good zinger for an EV driver, and your response was weak.

Also don't be Rusty/Pimpadeaux with the laugh emoticons, it looks dumb.   Don't tell him though, he thinks he looks super cool.

I’m sorry I disappointed you!

EV’s do start when it’s cold though.

[thegeneral 3,121]

11 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

I'm not on the Squistion gay bus like you are.  NTTAWWT

I think you are protesting a little too much. It’s ok man!

[Horseman 2,438]

Anyone care to explain why a stop gap for 6 weeks is a win for anyone?  Braindead OP reads a headline and runs with it? 

Definitely Rusty, only thing missing is a link to yahoo.  

[Horseman 2,438]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’m sorry I disappointed you!

EV’s do start when it’s cold though.

Nobody has even thought of resale value.  Who is going to want to buy a 10 year old car whose chitty batteries only charge to 70% (and dropping).  And battery replacement cost is 75% the cost of a brand new one.  A couple decades from now we're going to have a bunch of used Teslas sitting around with dead batteries in them.  That will be good for the environment.  

Musk conned all you idiots. 

 

 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, it's not better.  Trump was on a typical slow increase until 2020 with Covid which should have been a one-off situation, and the amount reduced thereafter.  But Biden has continued to build off of that one-off spending.  Every year of his is incredibly more than we should be spending based on historical trends.  HTH

Simple-minded Leftists, the party of science but apparently not math, refuse to understand this.  I just mentioned it above to Rusty, and typically Raven Fan comes in with a "but this one goes to 11" level comment.

Can you provide some data to back up your claims?  The data that I shared is different.

I do find it odd that Trump supporters give Trump a pass for covid spending but hold Biden accountable for covid spending.  It's disingenuous.

Here is another link backing up what I stated.  In raw dollars Trump still added more debt than Biden.  Percentage wise Biden is much lower.  Feel free to provide conflicting data.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/which-presidents-added-most-national-debt/

Barack Obama
$9.3 trillion over 8 years
($1.1 trillion per year)
Donald Trump
$7.8 trillion over 4 years
($1.9 trillion per year)
Joe Biden
$3.7 trillion over 2 years, 3 months
($1.6 trillion per year)
George W. Bush
$4.9 trillion over 8 years
($0.6 trillion per year)

[Ron_Artest 1,333]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Anyone care to explain why a stop gap for 6 weeks is a win for anyone?  Braindead OP reads a headline and runs with it? 

Definitely Rusty, only thing missing is a link to yahoo.  

It's a win for anyone resisting the MAGAturds and their wish for economic collapse.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

15 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No, it's not better.  Trump was on a typical slow increase until 2020 with Covid which should have been a one-off situation, and the amount reduced thereafter.  But Biden has continued to build off of that one-off spending.  Every year of his is incredibly more than we should be spending based on historical trends.  HTH

Simple-minded Leftists, the party of science but apparently not math, refuse to understand this.  I just mentioned it above to Rusty, and typically Raven Fan comes in with a "but this one goes to 11" level comment.

Bakers stats actually don't support that claim at all

[jerryskids 6,732]

7 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Can you provide some data to back up your claims?  The data that I shared is different.

I do find it odd that Trump supporters give Trump a pass for covid spending but hold Biden accountable for covid spending.  It's disingenuous.

Here is another link backing up what I stated.  In raw dollars Trump still added more debt than Biden.  Percentage wise Biden is much lower.  Feel free to provide conflicting data.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/which-presidents-added-most-national-debt/

Barack Obama
$9.3 trillion over 8 years
($1.1 trillion per year)
Donald Trump
$7.8 trillion over 4 years
($1.9 trillion per year)
Joe Biden
$3.7 trillion over 2 years, 3 months
($1.6 trillion per year)
George W. Bush
$4.9 trillion over 8 years
($0.6 trillion per year)

Scroll up about 5-ish posts, Baker Boy already posted it:

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

The bulk of his growth was 2020; the previous three years were much less.

Biden's "low" growth is much higher when viewed through that lens.  Although to your point, we could give a little leeway to Biden for Covid spending in 2021.  But by 2022 the major spending items related to Covid were gone.

[thegeneral 3,121]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Nobody has even thought of resale value.  Who is going to want to buy a 10 year old car whose chitty batteries only charge to 70% (and dropping).  And battery replacement cost is 75% the cost of a brand new one.  A couple decades from now we're going to have a bunch of used Teslas sitting around with dead batteries in them.  That will be good for the environment.  

Musk conned all you idiots. 

 

 

Personally not really looking at any car as a long term investment. Cost of operating EV’s for me has been fantastic - pretty much fuel cost, almost zero maintenance. About to have to do the tires which will be first big bill in about 4 years. Everyone’s situations are different and people need to know their situation. 

Just looked at resale value and actually looks pretty good:

Disposal of battery is a legitimate issue.

[Horseman 2,438]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

It's a win for anyone resisting the MAGAturds and their wish for economic collapse.

So TDS.  Got it, thanks.  

[Horseman 2,438]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Personally not really looking at any car as a long term investment. Cost of operating EV’s for me has been fantastic - pretty much fuel cost, almost zero maintenance. About to have to do the tires which will be first big bill in about 4 years. Everyone’s situations are different and people need to know their situation. 

Just looked at resale value and actually looks pretty good:

Disposal of battery is a legitimate issue.

Current resale value at 10 years?  Yeah, there are only so many dumb people that will wise up after the first couple rounds of that.  

[The Psychic Observer 498]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Scroll up about 5-ish posts, Baker Boy already posted it:

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

The bulk of his growth was 2020; the previous three years were much less.

Biden's "low" growth is much higher when viewed through that lens.  Although to your point, we could give a little leeway to Biden for Covid spending in 2021.  But by 2022 the major spending items related to Covid were gone.

I saw his posts and his numbers and they are roughly the same as what I posted, which show Trump added more to the debt in both raw numbers and percentages than Biden has and continues to.  In Baker Boy's post you can even see the GDP to debt ratio has decreased since Biden took office.

I'll stand by my claim that Biden has been more debt friendly than Trump and have the data behind me to do so.