No Govt Shutdown

[Horseman 2,367]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Bakers stats actually don't support that claim at all

Typical lefty brain dead response.

Here are all the real numbers.  Here is how they work.  Here are credible links.

NO THEY DON'T!!!11!

[thegeneral 2,912]

Just now, Horseman said:

Yeah current resale value at 10 years?  Yeah, there are only so many dumb people that will wise up after the first couple rounds of that.  

I guess that is not really my problem at that point but a 20 year old Tesla with say 100 miles range or a 20 year old Audi seems like a wash to me.

I noticed we didn’t address the benefits.

[jerryskids 6,567]

11 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

I saw his posts and his numbers and they are roughly the same as what I posted, which show Trump added more to the debt in both raw numbers and percentages than Biden has and continues to.  In Baker Boy's post you can even see the GDP to debt ratio has decreased since Biden took office.

I'll stand by my claim that Biden has been more debt friendly than Trump and have the data behind me to do so.

What you say is true, and you didn't understand a word I said.  Or choose to remain ignorant.  Either way, carry on.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Typical lefty brain dead response.

Here are all the real numbers.  Here is how they work.  Here are credible links.

NO THEY DON'T!!!11!

Well we don’t need to argue that the tax cuts for mega wealthy corporations added trillions. That’s just a fact, and it didn’t have a G0d damn thing to do with COVID.

HTH

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I guess that is not really my problem at that point but a 20 year old Tesla with say 100 miles range or a 20 year old Audi seems like a wash to me.

I noticed we didn’t address the benefits.

Depends where you live.  But brain dead Biden did incredibly brilliant things like EV buses in the northwest.  Hard to believe it failed so quickly.  

[thegeneral 2,912]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Depends where you live.  But brain dead Biden sis incredibly brilliant things like EV buses in the northwest.  Hard to believe it failed so quickly.  

You finally seem to be getting it! It’s like people have to take things in to account when they purchase stuff.

What is this about buses now?

 

 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What you say is true, and you didn't understand a word I said.  Or choose to remain ignorant.  Either way, carry on.  

I understood what you said and why you said it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You finally seem to be getting it! It’s like people have to take things in to account when they purchase stuff.

What is this about buses now?

 

 

Proterra. Ev bus company subsidized by Biden. Bankrupt. That didn’t take long.  

[Horseman 2,367]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Depends where you live.  But brain dead Biden did incredibly brilliant things like EV buses in the northwest.  Hard to believe it failed so quickly.  

Most of the buses are just sitting there because they don't have the infrastructure built for charging them.  Of course thegeneral lives there and is oblivious.  

[thegeneral 2,912]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Proterra. Ev bus company subsidized by Biden. Bankrupt. That didn’t take long.  

Hadn’t heard about them. That’s a shame hopefully all their stuff gets bought by someone who knows how to make it work.

EV busses seem like a very good idea. Short routes, predictable routes, can carry many people, taking lots of cars off the road. Charge at night. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Hadn’t heard about them. That’s a shame hopefully all their stuff gets bought by someone who knows how to make it work.

EV busses seem like a very good idea. Short routes, predictable routes, can carry many people, taking lots of cars off the road. Charge at night. 

They sold for less than the price of the subsidies they received.  But the execs are ok if you’re wondering. 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

38 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Bakers stats actually don't support that claim at all

Yes they do. The number you should be looking at is the ratio of debt to GDP. Covid shot it up and Biden is carrying it along when it should have gone down after Covid.

[thegeneral 2,912]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Most of the buses are just sitting there because they don't have the infrastructure built for charging them.  Of course thegeneral lives there and is oblivious.  

Roger just googled them, is now an expert

[Baker Boy 1,688]

26 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I guess that is not really my problem at that point but a 20 year old Tesla with say 100 miles range or a 20 year old Audi seems like a wash to me.

I noticed we didn’t address the benefits.

The reason it's hard to place a specific number on the life span of EV batteries is that it can vary greatly based on factors an EV owner can control and several factors they can't. In general, you can expect the lifespan of an EV's battery pack to be at least 10 years or 100,000 miles.

[thegeneral 2,912]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

They sold for less than the price of the subsidies they received.  But the execs are ok if you’re wondering. 

That seems to be how it goes typically. Sounds like someone is for regulating this type of payouts. Very Elizabeth Warren of you. Write something up, I think it would be popular.

[Horseman 2,367]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Roger just googled them, is now an expert

You didn't even hear about Kamala's visit?  Do you get out of the house at all?  

[thegeneral 2,912]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

The reason it's hard to place a specific number on the life span of EV batteries is that it can vary greatly based on factors an EV owner can control and several factors they can't. In general, you can expect the lifespan of an EV's battery pack to be at least 10 years or 100,000 miles.

It’s weird that 2014 Teslas are selling for 20k  

[The Psychic Observer 496]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They sold for less than the price of the subsidies they received.  But the execs are ok if you’re wondering. 

It's a good thing Republicans never engage in Pay to Play or kickbacks or corruption.

[thegeneral 2,912]

Just now, Horseman said:

You didn't even hear about Kamala's visit?  Do you get out of the house at all?  

I missed that, been a hectic travel sched. In LA at the moment. In BC next week, then SF in early Feb.

I have never heard of this bus company but hopefully they can get this tech working. Sounds like a very good idea.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

6 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It's a good thing Republicans never engage in Pay to Play or kickbacks or corruption.

They do.  Never said they didn’t. Big pharma spreads it around. FTX not as much. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Y’all are aware that the only feature of the Trump tax cuts that were made permanent were for corporations, right?

The others expire at the end of next year.

But yeah, that Trump guy is a real hero of the working class  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Y’all are aware that the only feature of the Trump tax cuts that were made permanent were for corporations, right?

The others expire at the end of next year.

But yeah, that Trump guy is a real hero of the working class  

Like Obama’s tax “holiday” ?  

[Ron_Artest 1,060]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like Obama’s tax “holiday” ?  

Whatabout Troubadour 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's a shame Donald Trump added $8.2T to the national debt during his 4 year term, more than any president in history.  YUGE loss for the American people.

The past is gone we faced today.
 

The U.S. national debt is at$34,060,163,447,630
and rapidly growing

[IGotWorms 4,057]

I gave y’all something to think about on those corporate tax breaks. Maybe internalize it

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

I gave y’all something to think about on those corporate tax breaks. Maybe internalize it

Corporations don’t pay taxes the consumer pays the tax. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,939]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Whatabout Troubadour 

Jealous.