Elitism vs. Populism

[RLLD 4,177]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

This is a lie

Less a lie so much as a misconception. The justice department is defending Biden at the behest of someone, or some ones......we can only speculate as to who that could be....

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Less a lie so much as a misconception. The justice department is defending Biden at the behest of someone, or some ones......we can only speculate as to who that could be....

No it's a lie because the justice department said that the evidence doesn't warrant prosecution of Biden.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

36 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans blocked the new credit in the Senate of course.

Republicans control the senate? 

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Republicans control the senate? 

The bill, which sailed through the House on a 357-70 vote in January, has languished in the Senate as Republicans led by Senate Finance ranking member Michael D. Crapo of Idaho have pushed for changes. Senate Finance Chairman Ron Wyden, D-Ore., said he and Crapo are continuing to talk.

https://rollcall.com/2024/03/15/senate-democrats-seek-to-maneuver-tax-deal-to-the-floor/

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The bill, which sailed through the House on a 357-70 vote in January, has languished in the Senate as Republicans led by Senate Finance ranking member Michael D. Crapo of Idaho have pushed for changes. Senate Finance Chairman Ron Wyden, D-Ore., said he and Crapo are continuing to talk.

https://rollcall.com/2024/03/15/senate-democrats-seek-to-maneuver-tax-deal-to-the-floor/

Oh, because you said it’s been blocked. That’s says they are negotiating.  Typical Gutterboy. Just lying. 

[RLLD 4,177]

42 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No it's a lie because the justice department said that the evidence doesn't warrant prosecution of Biden.

I do not trust the Justice Department, after their misbehaviors over the last few years I would not accept much of what they say

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No it's a lie because the justice department said that the evidence doesn't warrant prosecution of Biden.

That’s not what they said. They said there is plenty of evidence, it s just that Biden is too feeble minded and a jury would take pity on him. Just lying again. 

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

21 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not trust the Justice Department, after their misbehaviors over the last few years I would not accept much of what they say

So if they decided to prosecute Biden then you would be against it and assume it's politically driven?

[RLLD 4,177]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

So if they decided to prosecute Biden then you would be against it and assume it's politically driven?

Based on their behaviors to protect him, likely not....but I think the scenario you propose is unlikely.....he could shoot a staffer in the face and I submit that they would protect him still.....

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s not what they said. They said there is plenty of evidence, it s just that Biden is too feeble minded and a jury would take pity on him. Just lying again. 

The evidence is insufficient to convict and we decline to prosecute.  Hur's own words.  Shut your face.

 

[RLLD 4,177]

Biden as VP and Senator had no ability to have those documents, willful or otherwise.....people usually go to jail for this....

Presidents DO have the ability to have those documents.....

The Democrats pretending Trump was somehow "worse" here is remarkably stupid.

[jonmx 2,425]

33 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The evidence is insufficient to convict and we decline to prosecute.  Hur's own words.  Shut your face.

 

You are such a fuking disingenous liar.  The emphasis in the report being on the 'willfully' part.  We know he did ever other element of the crime and should be prosecuted.  The reason they didn't because how can you prove an incompetent near-vegitable is capable of doing anything 'willfully'?   Biden is so unaware of what is going on it would be impossible to convict him of any crime which requires willfullness.   But yet, the Weekend at Bernies President is being wheeled out for a potential 2nd term. 

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Biden as VP and Senator had no ability to have those documents, willful or otherwise.....people usually go to jail for this....

Presidents DO have the ability to have those documents.....

The Democrats pretending Trump was somehow "worse" here is remarkably stupid.

Th difference is willful misconduct and obstruction of justice.  Biden did neither of these, trump did.  That is what trump was charged and not biden.  I imagine this is hard for people to understand who think this is the worst economy in world history.

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are such a fuking disingenous liar.  The emphasis in the report being on the 'willfully' part.  We know he did ever other element of the crime and should be prosecuted.  The reason they didn't because how can you prove an incompetent near-vegitable is capable of doing anything 'willfully'.   Biden is so unaware of what is going on it would be impossible to convict him of any crime which requires willfullness.  

You can refuse to give the documents back when asked.  You can lie and say you didn't have the documents.  You can hide documents in bathrooms and closets.  You can fly documents around the country and show them to people.  You can refuse requests to search.  You can lie and say you have the right to have them.  All of that will result in prosecution.

[jonmx 2,425]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Th difference is willful misconduct and obstruction of justice.  Biden did neither of these, trump did.  That is what trump was charged and not biden.  I imagine this is hard for people to understand who think this is the worst economy in world history.

Only because Biden is mentally incompetent.  Hillary had no such excuse and even went way beyond Trump and destroyed incriminating evidence.  

[RLLD 4,177]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Th difference is willful misconduct and obstruction of justice.  Biden did neither of these, trump did.  That is what trump was charged and not biden.  I imagine this is hard for people to understand who think this is the worst economy in world history.

Reframing his, correctly implemented,  insistence that he had the right to those documents as President as some sort of violation.....while ignoring the actual violation done by Biden....who had no such option.....is not exactly being impartial here....

IMHO, neither should have had anything really done to them.....well, keeping the stuff in boxes in the garage does bother me a little....

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

Only because Biden is mentally incompetent.  Hillary had no such excuse and even went way beyond Trump and destroyed incriminating evidence.  

Hur testified that Biden is not mental incompetent.  Stop lying you fascist shill.

[jonmx 2,425]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

You can refuse to give the documents back when asked.  You can lie and say you didn't have the documents.  You can hide documents in bathrooms and closets.  You can fly documents around the country and show them to people.  You can refuse requests to search.  You can lie and say you have the right to have them.  All of that will result in prosecution.

Sure you can because Trump believed they were his under the Presidential Records Act.  Trump was involved in a legitimate legal dispute with the Justice Deaprtment when Trump's residence was invaded by a politically motivated FBI raid. 

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

Just now, jonmx said:

Sure you can because Trump believed they were his under the Presidential Records Act.  Trump was involved in a legitimate legal dispute with the Justice Deaprtment when Trump's residence was invaded by a politically motivated FBI raid. 

Stupidity is not a defense.

[BeachGuy23 642]

23 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Biden as VP and Senator had no ability to have those documents, willful or otherwise.....people usually go to jail for this....

Presidents DO have the ability to have those documents.....

The Democrats pretending Trump was somehow "worse" here is remarkably stupid.

So when Trump was asked for the documents back that the stole and he lied and tried to hide them.

That's worse than Biden returning them?

Low IQ partisan shill.

The perfect cultist. 

[jonmx 2,425]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hur testified that Biden is not mental incompetent.  Stop lying you fascist shill.

But in his report he believed they could not convince a jury that.  The whole reason for refusal to prosecute was based on their ability to persuade a jury of the willfullness.  In what world is having a house filled with classified documents not willful, unless you are mentally incompetent. 

[jonmx 2,425]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Stupidity is not a defense.

Every modern president has taken classified records with them for their presidential library.  The dispute is legitimate and has not been resolved by the Court. 

[Voltaire 5,273]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Stupidity is not a defense.

it can be. It worked for Biden. Is it not true that his personal stupidity and lack of brain function was the reason given when his document mishandling case was dismissed?

[RLLD 4,177]

2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

So when Trump was asked for the documents back that the stole and he lied and tried to hide them.

That's worse than Biden returning them?

Low IQ partisan shill.

The perfect cultist. 

Trump has the right to have them, Biden did not....pretending that Trump defending his right to the documents is worse demonstrates your lack of intellectual honesty and integrity....

But again, that either was held to account is just stupid...

[jonmx 2,425]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

So when Trump was asked for the documents back that the stole and he lied and tried to hide them.

That's worse than Biden returning them?

Low IQ partisan shill.

The perfect cultist. 

Returning them has no bearing on the legal elements of the underlying crime. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

11 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Returning them has no bearing on the legal elements of the underlying crime. 

WRONG!

Law enforcement ALWAYS takes cooperation into account when assessing penalties.

Freaking cultist...SMH

[jonmx 2,425]

1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said:

WRONG!

Law enforcement ALWAYS takes cooperation into account when assessing penalties.

Freaking cultist...SMH

No Disphit.  It is a small consideration for potentially reducing penalities, but it does not change the crime.  A murderer who turns himself in and confesses is just as guilty as one who asserts his 5th Amendment rights.   A judge might consider remorse and cooperation in the sentencing, but both are still murderers.  

[BeachGuy23 642]

12 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No Disphit.  It is a small consideration for potentially reducing penalities, but it does not change the crime.  A murderer who turns himself in and confesses is just as guilty as one who asserts his 5th Amendment rights.   A judge might consider remorse and cooperation in the sentencing, but both are still murderers.  

Are we talking about murder boyo?

NOPE

Cooperation from politicians has ALWAYS played a MASSIVE role in deciding whether or not to prosecute.

You're dumb. 

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[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

Biden was too feeble to prosecute. It’s right there in the report. Hur also said the report does not exonerate him when that claim by that idiot Jayapal was made. Case closed. Gutterboy with another L

[jonmx 2,425]

57 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Are we talking about murder boyo?

NOPE

Cooperation from politicians has ALWAYS played a MASSIVE role in deciding whether or not to prosecute.

You're dumb. 

Hey dumbass, when a person cooperative to help convict someone else, they may not prosecute.  But not a crime they are the sole perpetrator.  The crime is equally bad and should be equally prosecuted.   You turn into a bigger idiot by the day.  Soon you will turn into another squistion. 

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