EternalShinyAndChrome 4,100 Posted May 18, 2024 23 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Because I own and have used hammers. They all pretty much have a 10" - 12" handle. Even my little ball peen hammer has a 10" handle. I didn't see any handle. Did you? So, at best, he had the head of a hammer in one hand or the other. Which can absolutely be deadly if you get repeatedly punched in the head with it. But not nearly as deadly as if it still had the handle attached, which it didn't. The cop could've just shot him in the leg. He didn't have to kill the guy for holding a hammer head. Those of us who are trained in firearms are never trained to "shoot in the leg or arm". You're always trained to a) shoot center mass and b) to neutralize the threat until they are down. Shooting at the arm or leg won't guarantee the threat will be neutralized, thereby putting your own life in danger. Also, this isn't the movies where everyone can hit on target all the time. Shooting with pistols can be incredibly inaccurate, even at close range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted May 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Those of us who are trained in firearms are never trained to "shoot in the leg or arm". You're always trained to a) shoot center mass and b) to neutralize the threat until they are down. Shooting at the arm or leg won't guarantee the threat will be neutralized, thereby putting your own life in danger. Also, this isn't the movies where everyone can hit on target all the time. Shooting with pistols can be incredibly inaccurate, even at close range. I think your sarcasm meter is broken. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted May 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I own a hammer with a small handle (and normal sized head). Condolences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,100 Posted May 18, 2024 22 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I think your sarcasm meter is broken. Yeah, it CLEARY is. I should have known better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted May 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah, it CLEARY is. I should have known better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted May 18, 2024 Hammer/Schmammer Good Night, Sweet Prince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,499 Posted May 19, 2024 Are you sure he wasn't holding a hummingbird ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted May 19, 2024 4 minutes ago, SUXBNME said: Are you sure he wasn't holding a hummingbird ? Good question. @OldMaid as the bored expert, can you confirm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,100 Posted May 19, 2024 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Good question. @OldMaid as the bored expert, can you confirm? Are you sure it wasn't a pigeon? @squistion: can you confirm as an expert on pigeons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted April 17 lol I forgot about this thread. Here’s @5-Points saying a police department that has an entire incident on video is lying, because he’s never seen a hammer with a small handle. What a dummy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted April 17 On 5/17/2024 at 8:22 PM, 5-Points said: https://x.com/PhotogSteve81/status/1791519087144898576 Dumbass got what he deserved. On 5/18/2024 at 10:54 AM, 5-Points said: I didn't see a hammer. I think he had a phone in his left hand. He had something in his right hand but it didn't look like a hammer. On 5/18/2024 at 11:03 AM, 5-Points said: I also poasted a video. Dude wasn't holding a hammer. Either way, who gives a sh!t? I'm glad he can no longer reproduce. We are all better off for his timely demise. On 5/18/2024 at 11:57 AM, 5-Points said: At one point, he had a hammer. He wasn't holding one during the altercation with the cop. On 5/18/2024 at 12:22 PM, 5-Points said: I put Unarmed in quotes for a reason. Therefore the thread title is not incorrect. Dude clearly had something in his hands. It wasn't a gun, it wasn't a hammer, but he was absolutely holding something. If dude was black, do you think whatever he was holding would be described as a "weapon?" Or would it be explained away as some innocuous, edc item like a phone and/or car keys? Look, IDGAF that this guy got ended. He Focked Around and he Found Out. It should happen to more idiots. But I saw the video. I didn't see a "weapon" in either hand. Regardless what the "news reports" claim. ETA: He could have a hammer head in his hand. Mebbe he broke the handle off in a prior altercation. But a hammer without a handle isnt a hammer. On 5/18/2024 at 12:53 PM, 5-Points said: Because I own and have used hammers. They all pretty much have a 10" - 12" handle. Even my little ball peen hammer has a 10" handle. I didn't see any handle. Did you? So, at best, he had the head of a hammer in one hand or the other. Which can absolutely be deadly if you get repeatedly punched in the head with it. But not nearly as deadly as if it still had the handle attached, which it didn't. The cop could've just shot him in the leg. He didn't have to kill the guy for holding a hammer head. 39 minutes ago, TimHauck said: lol I forgot about this thread. Here’s @5-Points saying a police department that has an entire incident on video is lying, because he’s never seen a hammer with a small handle. What a dummy You don't read so good, do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, 5-Points said: You don't read so good, do you? Have you still never seen a hammer with a small handle? You need to get out more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,527 Posted April 17 48 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Have you still never seen a hammer with a small handle? You need to get out more I have man size hands so I use regular size hammers. You done making sh!t up or do you want to keep fighting with strawman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites