Strike 5,417 Posted June 16 Gotta love the libs around here. Focus on Trump pulling back a bit on going after hardworking illegals but ignore the other statement he made directing his people to go HARD after illegals in urban areas: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114690267066155731 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,622 Posted June 16 15 hours ago, Gepetto said: Public opinions don't matter in regards to the law. The deportations are upholding/enforcing US law. You’re not this naive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Gotta love the libs around here. Focus on Trump pulling back a bit on going after hardworking illegals but ignore the other statement he made directing his people to go HARD after illegals in urban areas: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114690267066155731 They are just hate filled cultists for real. Just like I said years ago that TDS is real, this is real as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: It's called prioritizing. It's hard to clean up the mess that obama and biden left. Riiight. Wouldn’t it be easiest to get these illegals since they are all showing up at one place taking the jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,622 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Gotta love the libs around here. Focus on Trump pulling back a bit on going after hardworking illegals but ignore the other statement he made directing his people to go HARD after illegals in urban areas: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114690267066155731 Not ignoring it. It’s ugly and awful and will create more drama. But it’s mostly for show while the pullback is not. As most of us liberals have said from the beginning: we don’t have a problem with deporting violent criminals. We don’t want them here either. We do have a problem with deporting hard working people whose only crime is the method they arrived here. You guys want that to happen; we don’t. So when Trump pulls back from that we are happy and relieved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Gotta love the libs around here. Focus on Trump pulling back a bit on going after hardworking illegals but ignore the other statement he made directing his people to go HARD after illegals in urban areas: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114690267066155731 I thought the taking of these jobs was a top priority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Riiight. Wouldn’t it be easiest to get these illegals since they are all showing up at one place taking the jobs. Do you know what an illegal is? I don't think you know what you are talking about. Move along...Go whine to someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 368 Posted June 16 TACO left his hard liners swinging in the wind on this one. Guess American workers who need those jobs that immigrants are taking away don't need them as much as we were led to believe from MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,417 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not ignoring it. It’s ugly and awful and will create more drama. But it’s mostly for show while the pullback is not. ROFLMAO. Tim - "The stuff I like is good and valid, but the stuff I don't isn't real. And now I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and go "lalalalalalalala" and ignore life while I hold my breath until Trump is impeached." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Do you know what an illegal is? I don't think you know what you are talking about. Move along...Go whine to someone else. What does “curbing immigration enforcement” entail? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, zsasz said: TACO left his hard liners swinging in the wind on this one. Guess American workers who need those jobs that immigrants are taking away don't need them as much as we were led to believe from MAGA. Yep. Just took a call from some of his biggest donors for him to look elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 Just now, thegeneral said: Yep. Just took a call from some of his biggest donors for him to look elsewhere. What's a taco? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: What does “curbing immigration enforcement” entail? Prioritizing. How many times do we need to go over this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,622 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. Tim - "The stuff I like is good and valid, but the stuff I don't isn't real. And now I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and go "lalalalalalalala" and ignore life while I hold my breath until Trump is impeached." No need to stick my fingers in my ears. I can face reality just fine. Can you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Prioritizing. How many times do we need to go over this? Riiight. These illegals are all in one place. They are taking jobs. It’s a twofer for Donald. Why not grab them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 make farmers and workers get on H1 D visas. problem solved, those visas have existed for decades Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 227 Posted June 16 23 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Link so where in your link does it say he stopped some raids because "donors" complained? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 368 Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Yep. Just took a call from some of his biggest donors for him to look elsewhere. To be fair, I can't complain. TACO and his supporters are finally understanding how this thing works. Good to see them swinging back to us in the Center on this. He does still look like a moron for trying to thread this needle in regards to increasing ICE in "liberal" cities as the whole notion is a hypocritical playing of politics with people. That will eventually backfire on him too though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,622 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: make farmers and workers get on H1 D visas. problem solved, those visas have existed for decades Better yet: why not just allow anyone who hasn’t committed a violent felony to stay here and get a green card? Have them pay a fine for coming into the country illegally but let them stay. End this mass deportation nonsense and concentrate on deporting the bad guys. What is wrong with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 368 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: make farmers and workers get on H1 D visas. problem solved, those visas have existed for decades MAGA was begging for these "American jobs to go to Americans"...now you want a Visa to solve all these problems? How very liberal of you to want immigrants to take American jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 Just now, zsasz said: To be fair, I can't complain. TACO and his supporters are finally understanding how this thing works. Good to see them swinging back to us in the Center on this. He does still look like a moron for trying to thread this needle in regards to increasing ICE in "liberal" cities as the whole notion is a hypocritical playing of politics with people. That will eventually backfire on him too though. center is not using slave labor to clean your toilets and pick your fruit center is anti-illegal immigration, fine the farmers and make them utilize the existing visas for migrant workers to be here legally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 If you have guests over and one is randomly stabbing people with a knife, and another one who wasn't invited to the party and is unwelcome but just sitting on a chair, in the mind of the liberals, you definitely need to treat them both in the same manner or nothing at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 Just now, zsasz said: MAGA was begging for these "American jobs to go to Americans"...now you want a Visa to solve all these problems? How very liberal of you to want immigrants to take American jobs. im not maga dooshbag, I have always been for using farm visas, I have used them on my farm since 2012 if an american wants that job they can get them too and should be prioritzed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, zsasz said: To be fair, I can't complain. TACO and his supporters are finally understanding how this thing works. Good to see them swinging back to us in the Center on this. He does still look like a moron for trying to thread this needle in regards to increasing ICE in "liberal" cities as the whole notion is a hypocritical playing of politics with people. That will eventually backfire on him too though. Yep. Having a little fun with the MAGAs this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Better yet: why not just allow anyone who hasn’t committed a violent felony to stay here and get a green card? Have them pay a fine for coming into the country illegally but let them stay. End this mass deportation nonsense and concentrate on deporting the bad guys. What is wrong with that? I would have no problem with that, maybe Democrats could run on that since that would have been a moderate ish stance, however the pendulum swung way too far so much so (and we have discussed illegals in the past so I think you know my stance) but it got so bad, I was like F it, get them all out I support the Clinton/Obama policy on illegal immigration I wouldnt say Green card however, visas yes, I think thats a fair middle ground, and ANY misdemeanor is immediate removal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,622 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I would have no problem with that, maybe Democrats could run on that since that would have been a moderate ish stance, however the pendulum swung way too far so much so (and we have discussed illegals in the past so I think you know my stance) but it got so bad, I was like F it, get them all out I support the Clinton/Obama policy on illegal immigration I wouldnt say Green card however, visas yes, I think thats a fair middle ground, and ANY misdemeanor is immediate removal I could go for this. Many times I’ve noticed that you and I get into the weeds of issues we are able to find some common ground. It’s only when we are discussing the broader strokes that we sharply disagree. Perhaps this indicates where most people in this country are at underneath the rhetoric, I’d like to think so anyhow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 8 minutes ago, shadrap said: so where in your link does it say he stopped some raids because "donors" complained? I put two and two together I love that one of the major lobbyists for farming is named “Zippy” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I could go for this. Many times I’ve noticed that you and I get into the weeds of issues we are able to find some common ground. It’s only when we are discussing the broader strokes that we sharply disagree. Perhaps this indicates where most people in this country are at underneath the rhetoric, I’d like to think so anyhow. sometimes, you have way more extreme views than I do, but I have always been moderate on abortion and illegals, problem is POLITICIANS, thats why I don't support any of them the right uses immigration and the left uses abortion exactly the same, its a voting point, but they never actually plan on fixing it or codifying it, cause they lose a voting chunk normal americans could actually sit down and come up with an agreement much easier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 10 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: If you have guests over and one is randomly stabbing people with a knife, and another one who wasn't invited to the party and is unwelcome but just sitting on a chair, in the mind of the liberals, you definitely need to treat them both in the same manner or nothing at all. They could send a few buses and a couple agents to these meat processing warehouses and call it a day. Why not do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They could send a few buses and a couple agents to these meat processing warehouses and call it a day. Why not do that? Illegals are illegal. Biden let in 10 million of them. It's not an overnight job. Get over it. Get the most violent first. And that's what Trump is doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Illegals are illegal. Biden let in 10 million of them. It's not an overnight job. Get over it. Get the most violent first. And that's what Trump is doing. So the guy who wants to tout American jobs are being returned to Americans, wants to have a bench mark number of deportations a day, won’t deport the illegals who are the easiest to catch, who are all in one place, after talking to lobbyists and leaders from certain industries. Why is that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: So the guy who wants to tout American jobs are being returned to Americans, wants to have a bench mark number of deportations a day, won’t deport the illegals who are the easiest to catch, who are all in one place, after talking to lobbyists and leaders from certain industries. Why is that He's prioritizing the extremely violent first. How many times does that need to be explained to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 Just now, seafoam1 said: He's prioritizing the extremely violent first. How many times does that need to be explained to you? Riiight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Riiight. ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: ok. After all the violent illegals are removed then he will get to removing all these illegals working these jobs. What will have changed in those industries by then that won’t make this problematic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 Just now, thegeneral said: After all the violent illegals are removed then he will get to removing all these illegals working these jobs. What will have changed in those industries by then that won’t make this problematic? It'll take more time than he has in office to get rid of the millions of violent illegals that Biden let walk in to this country. I predict Trump can't get rid of all illegals. Does that make you feel better? But I am all in on him consistently trying to oust them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,119 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: It'll take more time than he has in office to get rid of the millions of violent illegals that Biden let walk in to this country. I predict Trump can't get rid of all illegals. Does that make you feel better? But I am all in on him consistently trying to oust them. There are not millions of violent illegals in the US. The topic at hand though is why not remove the illegals working at these businesses? It would be easy to do. Remember those “black jobs” he was going to save. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, thegeneral said: After all the violent illegals are removed then he will get to removing all these illegals working these jobs. What will have changed in those industries by then that won’t make this problematic? theres over 1 million illegals in our prison system and with deportation orders, but those are the ones you idiots are protesting over 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,919 Posted June 16 Just now, thegeneral said: There are not millions of violent illegals in the US. The topic at hand though is why not remove the illegals working at these businesses? It would be easy to do. Remember those “black jobs” he was going to save. Your first point is wrong. The rest is useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 368 Posted June 16 18 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: He's prioritizing the extremely violent first. How many times does that need to be explained to you? LOL!!! Maybe your other personalities/avatars believe this....but the guy hung you and your multiple aliases out to dry on this issue. Big money and big donors mean more to him than you little people who voted for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites