SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 20 23 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: I don’t think it’s shocking that he killed himself, but I still find the circumstances with the guards and video to be suspicious. Does that make me a conspiracy theorist? No it doesn’t. But Bongino used to rail & slam tables over this & now he’s seen the evidence & he’s totally convinced it was suicide. Patel too. I have no idea what anyone reasonably suspicious could possibly expect at this point. Incompetence is a real thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 79 Posted May 20 Donald Trump's best friend, Jeffrey Epstein, did what now? Was this before or after Epstein arranged Donald's mail order bride, Melania? "Release the Epstein files!" Clueless MAGA. Donald Trump IS the Epstein files. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 20 Hard to believe the Obama and Biden DOJ covered for Trump. Comeys daughter no less. Why did they do that? Some classified documents bullshitt instead? Come on man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 20 Magas want us to believe that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein, despite flying on his plane multiple times, despite partying with him multiple times with video proof, despite Trump saying what a great guy he is and how he likes his girls young, despite wishing maxwell well on her trial, despite borrowing his jet to campaign on last year, despite being named a co-defendent in a rape case, despite testimony from others that they were introduced to Trump through Epstein. Nothing to see here. It was BIDEN! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 20 Liberals should be furious that Obama then Biden covered for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 20 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Hard to believe the Obama and Biden DOJ covered for Trump. Comeys daughter no less. Why did they do that? Some classified documents bullshitt instead? Come on man. Years and years ago here in my fair, corrupt city we had a scandal. Big prostitution ring. Doctors, judges, businessmen, lawyers, a US Senator. The judge sealed the record. Just like what happened with Epstein in Florida. It is a really serious issue, it involves massive corruption, degradation of young girls, sex crimes of the worst sort, and maybe corporate or state espionage. The biggest concern these Johns had was that Epstein would write a book. I guess Maxwell still could (really she knows practically everything, right?) but "surprisingly" she doesn't. We've got Luna after it, Blackburn, both heavily pro-maga, and I support them in that. But the reality is the data was largely taken in the 1st investigation, around 2008-2009 or so. I'd be all for Bondi naming a special counsel, and if affects the Bush/Obama/Biden era, so be it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 20 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Liberals should be furious that Obama then Biden covered for Trump. These are AG's state and fed that have had oversight of this investigation: Bill McCollum (FL AG), Pam Bondi (FL AG), Alex Acosta (USA SDFL), Eric Holder (AG), Merrick Garland (AG), Bill Barr (his father hired Epstein at the high school where he taught in NYC) (AG), Jeff Sessions (AG), Matt Whitaker (AG), Loretta Lynch (AG), Pam Bondi (again) (AG). That is a lot of covering up. This thing was D.E.A.D. Epstein was free. The only reason it got new life was a MSM journalist (the bad guys) interviewed one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Giuffre. And there were a couple other articles in between, one by New Yorker magazine IIRC. Journalists brought this to light, not underground blogging-posting "researchers." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,186 Posted May 20 Epstein former lawyer demanding all evidence be released now. On the surface it sounds righteous, but if they release everything, it compromises the case. That's why they are tight lipped about everything so far. https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1924875926770233802?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,417 Posted May 20 7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Magas want us to believe that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein, despite flying on his plane multiple times, despite partying with him multiple times with video proof, despite Trump saying what a great guy he is and how he likes his girls young, despite wishing maxwell well on her trial, despite borrowing his jet to campaign on last year, despite being named a co-defendent in a rape case, despite testimony from others that they were introduced to Trump through Epstein. Nothing to see here. It was BIDEN! The flight logs have been released, you don't have to make stuff up. Turning into a timschochet pathological liar? Crazy how low you've fallen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 20 4 minutes ago, Horseman said: The flight logs have been released, you don't have to make stuff up. Turning into a timschochet pathological liar? Crazy how low you've fallen. Where's the lie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,417 Posted May 20 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Where's the lie? The flight logs show Trump was on Epstein's plane only once, from Miami to NJ. And they both had family in tow. Unlike Clinton and Prince Andrew who were on the plane to pedo island, Hong Kong, Thailand, etc etc. With unnamed females. What was Clinton and Epstein doing in Russia? Weird. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 21 30 minutes ago, Horseman said: The flight logs show Trump was on Epstein's plane only once, from Miami to NJ. And they both had family in tow. Unlike Clinton and Prince Andrew who were on the plane to pedo island, Hong Kong, Thailand, etc etc. With unnamed females. What was Clinton and Epstein doing in Russia? Weird. Just in the way of an attempt at serious discussion about a serious topic - leaving Trump out of it FTSOA - Epstein did much of what he did if not nearly all of it at homes, his homes and others'. He traveled with the girls for instance. The premise that if Person was on Express he did nefarious things is probably incorrect and if Person didn't ride on Express he didn't do Bad Things is also likely wrong. Epstein had homes in USVI, Palm Beach, NYC, outside Santa Fe, and elsewhere, like Paris. One of the reports was about his using the home of the CEO of The Limited in Ohio for a prolonged period. IIRC Giuffre escaped from Epstein while traveling and he wanted to "loan" her out to others. It's all way past disgusting, but the assumptions are often wrong in general. Same is true of the "black book". Epstein had perhaps, no kidding, like 10 numbers to reach Trump in there but that doesn't mean Trump was a John. For instance I doubt Prince Andrew was in his book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 21 53 minutes ago, Horseman said: The flight logs show Trump was on Epstein's plane only once, from Miami to NJ. And they both had family in tow. According to this link he flew 7 times. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/trump-epstein-files-their-relationship-what-to-know/ These flight logs show that Trump traveled on Epstein's private jets far more frequently than previous sets of records associated with Epstein's aircraft had indicated. According to the logs, Trump also flew on one of Epstein's planes four times in 1993, twice in 1994, and again in 1997. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-eric-trump-private-jet-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-trial-2021-12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 Can’t believe Jim Comey, his daughter and Merrick Garland covered up for Trump. Obamas wingman too. And that fat one that met Clinton in the hangar in Arizona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,417 Posted May 21 10 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: According to this link he flew 7 times. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/trump-epstein-files-their-relationship-what-to-know/ These flight logs show that Trump traveled on Epstein's private jets far more frequently than previous sets of records associated with Epstein's aircraft had indicated. According to the logs, Trump also flew on one of Epstein's planes four times in 1993, twice in 1994, and again in 1997. https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-eric-trump-private-jet-jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-trial-2021-12 Like I said, the flight logs have been released, why do you have to keep making things up? Including sensational articles when you can go to the source material for yourself? You like being lied to. You like being able to Google to find something that's says what you want it to say. You're a first class simpleton. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: Like I said, the flight logs have been released, why do you have to keep making things up? Including sensational articles when you can go to the source material for yourself? You like being lied to. You like being able to Google to find something that's says what you want it to say. You're a first class simpleton. The articles were written by journalists who reviewed the flight logs and found 7 entries for Trump. Are you saying that these journalists are lying and you reviewed all 188 pages and only found 1 trump entry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,838 Posted May 21 27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: The articles were written by journalists who reviewed the flight logs and found 7 entries for Trump. Are you saying that these journalists are lying and you reviewed all 188 pages and only found 1 trump entry? You are so damaged. Are you like 95 years old? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 I’m glad that Patels and Bonginos credibility has been established as we move forward. Thanks liberals! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 21 13 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Epstein former lawyer demanding all evidence be released now. On the surface it sounds righteous, but if they release everything, it compromises the case. That's why they are tight lipped about everything so far. https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1924875926770233802?s=19 The DOJ has rules against implicating people not charged. Aside from that & given that the Trump administration doesn’t show any compunction for following rules, & that they wouldn’t care if it was just innocent bystanders or Dems, I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think that if such tapes exist some powerful people who support or know Trump are implicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Horseman said: Like I said, the flight logs have been released, why do you have to keep making things up? Including sensational articles when you can go to the source material for yourself? You like being lied to. You like being able to Google to find something that's says what you want it to say. You're a first class simpleton. I had a few free minutes to further embarrass you so I decided to fact check that articles I shared and sure enough they were right. Here is the document released by Pam Bondi: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/ Go to Page 18, you will see Flight #310, Donald Trump. #311 Donald Trump. Go to Page 24, you will see Flight #409, Donald Trump. #413 Donald Trump. Next on Page 27, Flight #516, Trump along with family, Flight #517 Trump with family, those are the two you referenced earlier. Lastly page 37, Flight #741, Donald Trump along with Eric Trump. That's 7. I was right, you are a liar. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 56 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The DOJ has rules against implicating people not charged. Aside from that & given that the Trump administration doesn’t show any compunction for following rules, & that they wouldn’t care if it was just innocent bystanders or Dems, I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think that if such tapes exist some powerful people who support or know Trump are implicated. For sure. What other explanation could there be. Just wondering who Obamas and Bidens DOJ were covering for besides Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,193 Posted May 21 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I had a few free minutes to further embarrass you so I decided to fact check that articles I shared and sure enough they were right. Here is the document released by Pam Bondi: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/ Go to Page 18, you will see Flight #310, Donald Trump. #311 Donald Trump. Go to Page 24, you will see Flight #409, Donald Trump. #413 Donald Trump. Next on Page 27, Flight #516, Trump along with family, Flight #517 Trump with family, those are the two you referenced earlier. Lastly page 37, Flight #741, Donald Trump along with Eric Trump. That's 7. I was right, you are a liar. I'm sure he'll be here any minute to acknowledge his mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: For sure. What other explanation could there be. Just wondering who Obamas and Bidens DOJ were covering for besides Trump? I posted earlier about all the state & federal AGs who’ve had oversight over this, including Bondi twice. I think I’d even agree with you, though I think prior GOP & Dem DOJs were sincere about the rule about not implicating uncharged individuals. The difference here is Bondi is going through the pretense of reviewing & releasing material. I’ll add there are the girls to consider. No one is talking about the issue of releasing their names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I posted earlier about all the state & federal AGs who’ve had oversight over this, including Bondi twice. I think I’d even agree with you, though I think prior GOP & Dem DOJs were sincere about the rule about not implicating uncharged individuals. The difference here is Bondi is going through the pretense of reviewing & releasing material. I’ll add there are the girls to consider. No one is talking about the issue of releasing their names. Of course your side is sincere and does/ did the right thing. What a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 21 47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Of course your side is sincere and does/ did the right thing. What a coincidence. I did include the GOP there ("prior GOP & Dem DOJs were sincere") because this case has also been under Bush, Trump1 & 2 FL GOP AGs. Do you agree with my point about the girls? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I did include the GOP there ("prior GOP & Dem DOJs were sincere") because this case has also been under Bush, Trump1 & 2 FL GOP AGs. Do you agree with my point about the girls? It’s funny when you think you’ve made some profound point. Be good if you felt the same about all victims of violence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 439 Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s funny when you think you’ve made some profound point. Be good if you felt the same about all victims of violence. I probably should have just said that I agree with you on this subject, as I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,185 Posted May 21 9 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm sure he'll be here any minute to acknowledge his mistake. RIP @Horseman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 666 Posted May 21 On 5/20/2025 at 9:50 AM, Grace Under Pressure said: Donald Trump's best friend, Jeffrey Epstein, did what now? Was this before or after Epstein arranged Donald's mail order bride, Melania? "Release the Epstein files!" Clueless MAGA. Donald Trump IS the Epstein files. Poor Rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 666 Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: RIP @Horseman RIP @joebiden and all you libtards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
