MSDNC begging Trump to be friends

[jonmx 2,424]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Holy sh!t.

You are JustinCharge aren't you?

You are going to be shocked at what Trump pulls off this term.   Trump is going to do what he thinks needs to be done and he does not give one fuk what the media says.  Between all the lawfare, the media attacks and the assassination attempts,  he is going to produce more change than any president since Lincoln. 

[Baker Boy 1,687]

4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

Look every media company and every person in media has an agenda- whether they agree with your point of view or not. 

Six people control the mainstream media, check out who they are.
 

https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/

The 6 Companies That Own (Almost) All Media

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Six people control the mainstream media, check out who they are.
 

https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/

The 6 Companies That Own (Almost) All Media

Like I said- they all have agendas. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

17 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are going to be shocked at what Trump pulls off this term.   Trump is going to do what he thinks needs to be done and he does not give one fuk what the media says.  Between all the lawfare, the media attacks and the assassination attempts,  he is going to produce more change than any president since Lincoln. 

If he does, good.....I'm not going to be upset.

If he doesn't.....you will still say he did. He could take a dump in a box, throw a Hungry Man label on it and you'd still eat it. 

[jonmx 2,424]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If he does, good.....I'm not going to be upset.

If he doesn't.....you will still say he did. He could take a dump in a box, throw a Hungry Man label on it and you'd still eat it. 

Really....I did not give him credit for much his first term.   This time I think he gets it.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Really....I did not give him credit for much his first term.   This time I think he gets it.

I will say this for the brief time he has known he is going to be President. He is saying all the right things about working across the aisle. It does feel somewhat like he has a sense of he has a moment to actually do something and leave a better legacy than the first time.

Now if it still looks like that 18 months from now who knows....

[RLLD 4,143]

Those two clowns on morning joe folded pretty quick.

This suggests, to me, that they knew what they were saying was all lies..... and now they are positioning to save themselves.  Cowards. At least that rabid racist Joy Reid is standing by her filth......at least she is not some coward as well as a POS

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Geek Club: "These rotten people on the left need to be fairer and tone down the rhetoric."

Joe and Mika: "We met with Trump and want to work to better cover his second presidency."

Geek Club: "These left are cowards and backing down. THe scum."

[jbycho 583]

45 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Geek Club: "These rotten people on the left need to be fairer and tone down the rhetoric."

Joe and Mika: "We met with Trump and want to work to better cover his second presidency."

Geek Club: "These left are cowards and backing down. THe scum."

Yeah. Scum is the right word. Nice.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Geek Club: "These rotten people on the left need to be fairer and tone down the rhetoric."

Joe and Mika: "We met with Trump and want to work to better cover his second presidency."

Geek Club: "These left are cowards and backing down. THe scum."

I get it.  Truth from people with whom you have opposing political views cannot be accepted.  I wonder.....though....what if the same argument came from.....The Young Turks?

 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I get it.  Truth from people with whom you have opposing political views cannot be accepted.  I wonder.....though....what if the same argument came from.....The Young Turks?

 

 

The Young Turks website is a gaggle of idiots. And pretty far left. Who cares what they think?

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The Young Turks website is a gaggle of idiots. And pretty far left. Who cares what they think?

Right, they are saying something here you disagree with, so they are, "idiots".

Let's pause on that for a moment, this way of thinking and behaving, you might want to reconsider.   

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

15 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Right, they are saying something here you disagree with, so they are, "idiots".

Let's pause on that for a moment, this way of thinking and behaving, you might want to reconsider.   

They are idiots whether I agree with them or not. I don't flip the intelligence of someone based off whether I agree with them or not. That is hypocritical and childish in thinking. 

But it's fun you want to elevate them in this instance because you agree with them. 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They are idiots whether I agree with them or not. I don't flip the intelligence of someone based off whether I agree with them or not. That is hypocritical and childish in thinking. 

But it's fun you want to elevate them in this instance because you agree with them. 

You do not get to decide what they are, you have established for yourself what they are, because you disagree with them.  I urge you to reconsider.

This is not the way to approach people when you are an adult. This way of thinking is an important factor in why people are moving away from liberalism.  While I disagree with them on many things, I also have some common ground with them.

You should not dismiss or disregard people because you disagree on something.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You do not get to decide what they are, you have established for yourself what they are, because you disagree with them.  I urge you to reconsider.

This is not the way to approach people when you are an adult. This way of thinking is an important factor in why people are moving away from liberalism.  While I disagree with them on many things, I also have some common ground with them.

You should not dismiss or disregard people because you disagree on something.

Wait- is this "you" (me) now or is it "you" (universal)?

If it's my opinion of them I get to decide what they are to me. If you are establishing your opinion of something because of someone else's opinion I urge you to reconsider. 

And I don't really care why people are moving away from liberalism. I'm not one, so why would I give a sh!t? 

Again it is not dismissing them because I disagree with them. It is disagreeing with them because I think their biases override their intent and I don't care in that instance what they have to say. Do they sometimes agree with my leanings on something? Sure. But that doesn't automatically make me think they are intelligent or worthwhile as an organization. It is childish to turn off and on my opinion of someone because they align with me. If you want to be that childish go for it. I've seen you do that here enough. But your opinion on them doesn't change mine nor should it work vice versa. 

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Wait- is this "you" (me) now or is it "you" (universal)?

If it's my opinion of them I get to decide what they are to me. If you are establishing your opinion of something because of someone else's opinion I urge you to reconsider. 

And I don't really care why people are moving away from liberalism. I'm not one, so why would I give a sh!t? 

Again it is not dismissing them because I disagree with them. It is disagreeing with them because I think their biases override their intent and I don't care in that instance what they have to say. Do they sometimes agree with my leanings on something? Sure. But that doesn't automatically make me think they are intelligent or worthwhile as an organization. It is childish to turn off and on my opinion of someone because they align with me. If you want to be that childish go for it. I've seen you do that here enough. But your opinion on them doesn't change mine nor should it work vice versa. 

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. 

You should care about people moving away, there are some good ideas on the left that are useful, and we need a healthy Democrat party free of the radicals for a health political landscape and a balancing of the needs of people.

Please reconsider the Turks, they are sometimes a little too left....but worthy of watching.  You should ingest information from multiple sources, to include and perhaps especially from those where you disagree.

Now, in this instance they are calling out the truth, but that truth apparently flouts your deeply held beliefs. This is not a negative, it is an opportunity you should use to grow.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. 

You should care about people moving away, there are some good ideas on the left that are useful, and we need a healthy Democrat party free of the radicals for a health political landscape and a balancing of the needs of people.

Please reconsider the Turks, they are sometimes a little too left....but worthy of watching.  You should ingest information from multiple sources, to include and perhaps especially from those where you disagree.

Now, in this instance they are calling out the truth, but that truth apparently flouts your deeply held beliefs. This is not a negative, it is an opportunity you should use to grow.

Again- is this "you" (me) or "you" (universal)?

I've often said a healthy Democrat party would be great. So would a healthy thinking GOP. And Joe and Mika are arguing that the Trump second term should be covered fairly and they are trying to extend an olive branch to a better coverage. And your response is "Those two clowns on morning joe folded pretty quick.

This suggests, to me, that they knew what they were saying was all lies..... and now they are positioning to save themselves.  Cowards. At least that rabid racist Joy Reid is standing by her filth......at least she is not some coward as well as a POS"

I've seen the Turks stuff. I'd argue they are way too left and when people start going that far off the reservation they are no longer serious to me and I don't care what they think. Same thing when people fly wildly to the right and try to pass that stuff off as legit. I do ingest a number of sources from all angles of the political spectrum- both ones I agree and disagree with because I am fascinated with the manipulation in coverage. But again- I don't change my opinion of something just because I agree or disagree with them. I sometimes read articles from Mother Jones or from The Post Millennial- I disagree with them 98% of the time. I'm not going to take the 2% and try to make that 50/50 just because they agree with me on one thing. Again- that's just childish thinking where you are just looking to validate your own thoughts. 

You agree with them on this because they are calling out truth that matches with your deeply held beliefs. This is a negative, it is an opportunity you should use to reassess how you dole out trust in the media. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- is this "you" (me) or "you" (universal)?

I've often said a healthy Democrat party would be great. So would a healthy thinking GOP. And Joe and Mika are arguing that the Trump second term should be covered fairly and they are trying to extend an olive branch to a better coverage. And your response is "Those two clowns on morning joe folded pretty quick.

This suggests, to me, that they knew what they were saying was all lies..... and now they are positioning to save themselves.  Cowards. At least that rabid racist Joy Reid is standing by her filth......at least she is not some coward as well as a POS"

I've seen the Turks stuff. I'd argue they are way too left and when people start going that far off the reservation they are no longer serious to me and I don't care what they think. Same thing when people fly wildly to the right and try to pass that stuff off as legit. I do ingest a number of sources from all angles of the political spectrum- both ones I agree and disagree with because I am fascinated with the manipulation in coverage. But again- I don't change my opinion of something just because I agree or disagree with them. I sometimes read articles from Mother Jones or from The Post Millennial- I disagree with them 98% of the time. I'm not going to take the 2% and try to make that 50/50 just because they agree with me on one thing. Again- that's just childish thinking where you are just looking to validate your own thoughts. 

You agree with them on this because they are calling out truth that matches with your deeply held beliefs. This is a negative, it is an opportunity you should use to reassess how you dole out trust in the media. 

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. 

As to the health of the Republican party, I am rather satisfied with it.  Holding the House, Senate, SCOTUS and White House is healthy enough for me.  

I submit, as do most of those responding to their behavior, that they is a self-serving action on their part.  They used the lies, and I do beleive they knew these things were lies, to generate viewers, now they want to save themselves as they writing is on the wall.

There are positions the Turks hold that I agree with and things I do not agree with, this is also true for Trump.

I posted the video in response to your calling out of this position as being on the right, when in fact its a position clearly being shared by more than those on "the right".   

It would seem that it will not matter from where the logic arises, you will simply oppose it out of hand, all good.  But you should know that its time to stop that. 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

If you prefer to be childish, that's on you. I was hoping for more here, but alas, you fall back into childish antics. 

As to the health of the Republican party, I am rather satisfied with it.  Holding the House, Senate, SCOTUS and White House is healthy enough for me.  

I submit, as do most of those responding to their behavior, that they is a self-serving action on their part.  They used the lies, and I do beleive they knew these things were lies, to generate viewers, now they want to save themselves as they writing is on the wall.

There are positions the Turks hold that I agree with and things I do not agree with, this is also true for Trump.

I posted the video in response to your calling out of this position as being on the right, when in fact its a position clearly being shared by more than those on "the right".   

It would seem that it will not matter from where the logic arises, you will simply oppose it out of hand, all good.  But you should know that its time to stop that. 

 

Fun fact: I never said anything about "the right." I presented the Geek Club in the hypothetical conversation. 

And again- you are assigning meaning to what Joe and Mika did and are purposely positioning it because what they say doesn't align with your thoughts on it are. Then you find sources to support what you want to believe and find a source (TYT) that is way hyper partisan left which of course would push back on a guy, and show, who is more to the middle than they are. This is how an echo chamber is formed. This is why you shouldn't change the opinion on a source based off them agreeing or disagreeing with you. You should know its time to stop that. 

And as part of that argument you had to position me as attacking the "right" even though I never said such a thing. I was mocking the logical gymnastics from The Geek Club think tank.

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Joe and Mika

Do you watch MSNBC? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

7 hours ago, RLLD said:

Right, they are saying something here you disagree with, so they are, "idiots".

Let's pause on that for a moment, this way of thinking and behaving, you might want to reconsider.   

Mooney doesn’t like the left (young Turks) the center (Tim Pool) or the right (Fox News). But thinks he’s the most informed person here 

[Engorgeous George 2,124]

22 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Six people control the mainstream media, check out who they are.
 

https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/

The 6 Companies That Own (Almost) All Media