TimHauck 2,745 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Herbivore said: You confused me here. GB Nap Time thinks Livelsberger is a patsy. If the email was true, it would mean that Livelsberger is not a patsy. If the email was not true, then it is more plausible that Livelsberger is a patsy. Its not interesting that GB Nap Time, judging by his page is some hard righty who thinks he is fighting the good fight, would question the email, he doesn't want it to be true. That's why I asked what was in the deep dive. If its just the car thing, not quite a deep dive. Ryan/Shoemate are probably hard righties too. My read is that righties probably want the email to be true, so there’s not really motivation to try to discredit it other than trying to find the truth. Here are some of his other points - 1. Based on what we know about him, he wouldn’t have had access to the information about the drones that he said he did 2. Nap Time dude doesn’t think the drones were from China 3. Doesn’t make sense that he says he knows he was being tracked, but kept his phone on him and rented an easily trackable Tesla. 4. Says he had a “massive VBIED” but really didn’t 5. He used acronyms that people in his role wouldn’t use 6. The stuff about 2019 war crimes was already public 7. Formatting inconsistencies Isn’t a patsy someone that gets set up for something and often killed? If the email is true, he was trying to expose information. He says nothing about planning to blow himself up and says he was heading for Mexico, so the implication IMO is either someone killed him (patsy), or he’s still alive (not a patsy). Am I wrong on the definition of patsy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,123 Posted January 6 42 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Ryan/Shoemate are probably hard righties too. My read is that righties probably want the email to be true, so there’s not really motivation to try to discredit it other than trying to find the truth. Here are some of his other points - 1. Based on what we know about him, he wouldn’t have had access to the information about the drones that he said he did 2. Nap Time dude doesn’t think the drones were from China 3. Doesn’t make sense that he says he knows he was being tracked, but kept his phone on him and rented an easily trackable Tesla. 4. Says he had a “massive VBIED” but really didn’t 5. He used acronyms that people in his role wouldn’t use 6. The stuff about 2019 war crimes was already public 7. Formatting inconsistencies Isn’t a patsy someone that gets set up for something and often killed? If the email is true, he was trying to expose information. He says nothing about planning to blow himself up and says he was heading for Mexico, so the implication IMO is either someone killed him (patsy), or he’s still alive (not a patsy). Am I wrong on the definition of patsy? all good, thanks for posting these other pts. A patsy takes the fall. the email says "in case I don't make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico Border". Is his decision pt blowing himself up? Was there something that changed his mind about eventually going to the border? just thinking out loud. There is also still on the table just a guy who went a bit nuts, and blew himself up, and therefore not a patsy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,745 Posted January 8 FBI says the email came from Livelsberger’s account. Police say he used ChatGPT to plan his actions Keeps getting weirder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
