A Tesla Cybertruck has exploded at Trump Hotel in Las Vegas.

[TimHauck 2,597]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump supporter and fierce defender of fireworks

To be fair that is not evidence he was a Trump supporter.  It is however evidence he was a Democrat-hater

[TimHauck 2,597]

Driver was shot before the explosion.  Presumably self-inflicted but some have other theories 

[TimHauck 2,597]

Reported by a conservative influencer even:

JUST IN: Family of accused Trump hotel truck bomber Matthew Livelsberger says he was a “big Trump supporter,” questions the incident. Odd. The uncle of Livelsberger told the Independent that he is confused by the explosion because his nephew could rig a bomb to blow up half the hotel if he really wanted to do damage. “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country.” “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American. It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years. It wasn’t just one tour of duty.” “Matt was a very skilled warrior, and he would be able to make if it was him, and if he did this… he would’ve been able to make a more sophisticated explosive than using propane tanks and camping fuel.” “Some of it doesn’t make sense, when he had the skills and ability to make something more, let’s say, ‘efficient.’ His skills were enormous from what he had been taught in the military.” “[He] could have fashioned a bomb that would have obliterated half of that hotel if he seriously wanted to hurt others.” Source: Independent

[jbycho 579]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Reported by a conservative influencer even:

JUST IN: Family of accused Trump hotel truck bomber Matthew Livelsberger says he was a “big Trump supporter,” questions the incident. Odd. The uncle of Livelsberger told the Independent that he is confused by the explosion because his nephew could rig a bomb to blow up half the hotel if he really wanted to do damage. “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country.” “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American. It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years. It wasn’t just one tour of duty.” “Matt was a very skilled warrior, and he would be able to make if it was him, and if he did this… he would’ve been able to make a more sophisticated explosive than using propane tanks and camping fuel.” “Some of it doesn’t make sense, when he had the skills and ability to make something more, let’s say, ‘efficient.’ His skills were enormous from what he had been taught in the military.” “[He] could have fashioned a bomb that would have obliterated half of that hotel if he seriously wanted to hurt others.” Source: Independent

Another guy who follows around "influencers". 

This is all the left has in their bag of tricks. 

[TimHauck 2,597]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

Another guy who follows around "influencers". 

This is all the left has in their bag of tricks. 

Get with the times.  X is where breaking news is found more often these days, you just have to be able to spot the liars and frauds and there are many.  But I follow “influencers” from all sides in order to get the full story.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Get with the times.  X is where breaking news is found more often these days, you just have to be able to spot the liars and frauds and there are many.  But I follow “influencers” from all sides in order to get the full story.  

So by "influencers", you mean ANYONE with an X account.  Got it.

[TimHauck 2,597]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So by "influencers", you mean ANYONE with an X account.  Got it.

No.  The account I just shared the post from has 1.6 million followers.  And was quoting legacy media anyway…

[jbycho 579]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Get with the times.  X is where breaking news is found more often these days, you just have to be able to spot the liars and frauds and there are many.  But I follow “influencers” from all sides in order to get the full story.  

How do YOU spot "liars and frauds" if YOU are getting your news from them? Aren't they the ones telling you what and how to think? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  The account I just shared the post from has 1.6 million followers.  And was quoting legacy media anyway…

So how do you determine who is an "influencer"?  Just people you agree with with an X account?

[jbycho 579]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No.  The account I just shared the post from has 1.6 million followers.  And was quoting legacy media anyway…

So they have to be popular to be correct and know what's going on. 

Wow. Go follow some actor.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

All in all a good ending to this story.  Freak dead,  no one else hurt. Will hopefully provide intel that the adults can use when they take back over. 

[thegeneral 2,880]

Guy was a crazy maga guy? Well this thread will die off quickly.

[TimHauck 2,597]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So how do you determine who is an "influencer"?  Just people you agree with with an X account?

Arbitrary but IMO an “influencer” would tend to have at least 10k followers.  That of course doesn’t always mean they’re accurate, there are many with large followings that have a documented history of lying (such as “amuse”), I tend to look for ones that provide links to their source or screenshots, etc.  I will also search topics on x, sometimes I will first see info from low follower accounts, but if it’s something legitimate and major it is usually quickly picked up by a larger account.

[TimHauck 2,597]

@EternalShinyAndChrome, if you’re looking for recommendations for a mostly unbiased news source/fact checker on x, I recommend this guy:

https://x.com/Shayan86

[TimHauck 2,597]

Weird that as it comes out that he was likely a Trump supporter the narrative on x seems to be shifting to “he was such a good guy, something seems off, maybe someone shot him and put the Tesla in self-driving mode”

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Weird that as it comes out that he was likely a Trump supporter the narrative on x seems to be shifting to “he was such a good guy, something seems off, maybe someone shot him and put the Tesla in self-driving mode”

Of course! 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

49 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Guy was a crazy maga guy? Well this thread will die off quickly.

Weird how everyone trying to kill Trump is a supposed "MAGA Guy".  It's almost unbelievable and absurd.  What are the odds?

[Death 300]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

To be fair that is not evidence he was a Trump supporter.  It is however evidence he was a Democrat-hater

https://www.thedailybeast.com/las-vegas-cybertruck-bomber-matthew-livelsberger-was-a-trump-supporter-source/

Confirmed.

[jbycho 579]

23 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Weird how everyone trying to kill Trump is a supposed "MAGA Guy".  It's almost unbelievable and absurd.  What are the odds?

Yeah. Liberals just don't even see how exposed they are. They keep trying the same schtick. 

[Herbivore 1,113]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Guy was a crazy maga guy? Well this thread will die off quickly.

after they deflect about influencers

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

after they deflect about influencers

No one is running.  We're all still here, jack@ss. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Guy was a crazy maga guy? Well this thread will die off quickly.

No, I actually find it very interesting. If he wanted to kill others he would of drove it into the building and blew it up. He wasn't going to do any damage, the Cybertruck actually took the blow pretty well. And his body was burnt so bad that they couldn't identify the body but him military ID somehow escaped unscathed? 

So what was his motivation here? It makes no sense. 

[Herbivore 1,113]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Weird that as it comes out that he was likely a Trump supporter the narrative on x seems to be shifting to “he was such a good guy, something seems off, maybe someone shot him and put the Tesla in self-driving mode”

when I saw that he was dead already, I wondered if something like this was possible. the thing I saw was the truck blew up like 15 seconds after it parked. so this special forces Trump fan pulls up to Trump hotel, lights a fuse, shoots self, and half assed bomb kills no one? all seems very odd.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

all seems very odd

The whole thing is fishy at best. 

[thegeneral 2,880]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No, I actually find it very interesting. If he wanted to kill others he would of drove it into the building and blew it up. He wasn't going to do any damage, the Cybertruck actually took the blow pretty well. And his body was burnt so bad that they couldn't identify the body but him military ID somehow escaped unscathed? 

So what was his motivation here? It makes no sense. 

I’m going with he was crazy or having some mental episode - like it usually is in these types of events.

[Herbivore 1,113]

7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

No one is running.  We're all still here, jack@ss. 

well, try to stay on point then and stop crying about influencers. seems like most posters are trying to understand what happened here. would be nice to not have to scroll past another dumb slapfight about nonsense.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I’m going with he was crazy or having some mental episode - like it usually is in these types of events.

But why shoot yourself BEFORE the explosion? And very strange how his Military ID and Drivers license were fine but he was burned unrecognizable. 

It's ok to ask these questions, isn't it? 

[thegeneral 2,880]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

But why shoot yourself BEFORE the explosion? And very strange how his Military ID and Drivers license were fine but he was burned unrecognizable. 

It's ok to ask these questions, isn't it? 

Sure. But you are attempting to understand why a person who shot themselves in the head did something. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

8 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

well, try to stay on point then and stop crying about influencers. seems like most posters are trying to understand what happened here. would be nice to not have to scroll past another dumb slapfight about nonsense.

Lighten up Francis.

[Herbivore 1,113]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sure. But you are attempting to understand why a person who shot themselves in the head did something. 

is it confirmed he shot himself right there? anything from video? like you could see him driving in. or any witness statements about seeing him alive or hearing the gun shot?

[zsasz 361]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Reported by a conservative influencer even:

JUST IN: Family of accused Trump hotel truck bomber Matthew Livelsberger says he was a “big Trump supporter,” questions the incident. Odd. The uncle of Livelsberger told the Independent that he is confused by the explosion because his nephew could rig a bomb to blow up half the hotel if he really wanted to do damage. “He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country.” “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American. It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years. It wasn’t just one tour of duty.” “Matt was a very skilled warrior, and he would be able to make if it was him, and if he did this… he would’ve been able to make a more sophisticated explosive than using propane tanks and camping fuel.” “Some of it doesn’t make sense, when he had the skills and ability to make something more, let’s say, ‘efficient.’ His skills were enormous from what he had been taught in the military.” “[He] could have fashioned a bomb that would have obliterated half of that hotel if he seriously wanted to hurt others.” Source: Independent

 

Trumps America.

 

Here's another Trump supporter psycho.  Shame, these clowns won the election.  They should be celebratin; not so full of hate.  

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-explosives-largest-history-virginia-farm-brad-spafford/

[thegeneral 2,880]

6 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

is it confirmed he shot himself right there? anything from video? like you could see him driving in. or any witness statements about seeing him alive or hearing the gun shot?

Just seeing various headlines saying he shot himself and they are putting together his LV route with traffic cams. Fluid situation obviously so take everything with a grain of salt.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sure. But you are attempting to understand why a person who shot themselves in the head did something. 

I'm trying to understand all of it. It's so bizarre. Both the Cybertruck and Pickup Truck were rented through the same app, both Army and stationed on the same base, same time, both acts same day. 

It's just very bizarre, all of it. 

[Horseman 2,353]

5 minutes ago, zsasz said:

 

Trumps America.

 

Here's another Trump supporter psycho.  Shame, these clowns won the election.  They should be celebratin; not so full of hate.  

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-explosives-largest-history-virginia-farm-brad-spafford/

The Kamala supporter in NO actually killed people tho. 

[Horseman 2,353]

Imagine being a grown asss man and saying "conservative influencer" .   

[jbycho 579]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Imagine being a grown asss man and saying "conservative influencer" .   

I can't. 

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I'm trying to understand all of it. It's so bizarre. Both the Cybertruck and Pickup Truck were rented through the same app, both Army and stationed on the same base, same time, both acts same day. 

It's just very bizarre, all of it. 

It is weird.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

The Kamala supporter in NO actually killed people tho. 

"The neighbor also told authorities that Spafford was using photos of President Biden for target practice at a local shooting range".

  Who hasn't? They actually sell Biden targets at the range that I belong to 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,905]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Imagine being a grown asss man and saying "conservative influencer" .   

Seriously.  Admitting you are influenced by some random guy with a twitter page. 

[Herbivore 1,113]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

"The neighbor also told authorities that Spafford was using photos of President Biden for target practice at a local shooting range".

  Who hasn't? They actually sell Biden targets at the range that I belong to 

anyone who uses one should be investigated..no better than Kathy Griffin