Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? Why is Europe buying Russian oil and gas? And please explain the pipelines into Europe. Thanks Not much and not for long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Strike said: He used to be such a good poster. Trump broke him bad And thinking the world is moving away from fossil fuel might be the most delusional thing he's ever said. Holy smokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Not much and not for long. So solar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Not much and not for long. What your partner is always complaining about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So solar? You think Russia is the only country that sells oil and gas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? Why is Europe buying Russian oil and gas? And please explain the pipelines into Europe. Thanks Europe’s not mostly, Hungary (Orban), Slovakia (Fico) & Turkey (Erdogan) are doing the far, biggest piece of transactions. Those are all Trump pals whom he’s supposed to do cell phone deals with. Spain’s another, granted. But almost all of the rest of Europe is off the hook, Ukraine included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Strike said: Are newer forms of transportation banned here or something? Last time I checked the company responsible for the electric car revolution was founded here and is still the market leader. So spare me your SJW virtue signaling. Take another look. I mean the graph. Chinese companies dominate, & the Big 4 Euro companies outpace Tesla as a whole. But that was 2024. And I think Toyota has something to say about who did what in the EV revolution. Chevy too though that died. That’s from 2024, it’s gotten worse for Tesla in 2025. Link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,121 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Take another look. I mean the graph. Chinese companies dominate, & the Big 4 Euro companies outpace Tesla as a whole. But that was 2024. And I think Toyota has something to say about who did what in the EV revolution. Chevy too though that died. That’s from 2024, it’s gotten worse for Tesla in 2025. Link. Sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Strike said: Sure Tesla’s full 2025 data from Europe is in, and it is a total bloodbath 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,121 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Tesla’s full 2025 data from Europe is in, and it is a total bloodbath Ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Europe’s not mostly, Hungary (Orban), Slovakia (Fico) & Turkey (Erdogan) are doing the far, biggest piece of transactions. Those are all Trump pals whom he’s supposed to do cell phone deals with. Spain’s another, granted. But almost all of the rest of Europe is off the hook, Ukraine included. You didn’t explain the pipelines into Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Ok What an eccentric response. Happy Sunday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: You didn’t explain the pipelines into Europe. The northern route is shut down as you know. The ones through Ukraine are dead. & the ones through Turkey are on Erdogan, again that’s Trump’s personal pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: The northern route is shut down as you know. The ones through Ukraine are dead. & the ones through Turkey are on Erdogan, again that’s Trump’s personal pal. So no pipelines go into Europe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So no pipelines go into Europe? From Turkey, yes. Maybe this will help. - eta - That’s seaborne, I’ll see what I can find via pipeline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,121 Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: What an eccentric response. Happy Sunday! You're not going to get anything more out of me as long as you ignore my main points to focus on ONLY the ones you think support your position, even if they don't. It's a waste of my time. I just wish pre TDS SID was posting here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: From Turkey, yes. Maybe this will help. Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic aren't a part of Europe now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Strike said: You're not going to get anything more out of me as long as you ignore my main points to focus on ONLY the ones you think support your position, even if they don't. It's a waste of my time. I just wish pre TDS SID was posting here. Apologies, what was your main point? I thought I answered it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So no pipelines go into Europe? In the third quarter of 2025, the United States (59.9%) was the largest supplier of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to the EU (see Figure 9). It was followed by Russia (12.7%), Algeria (7.7%) and Qatar (6.0%). Compared with the third quarter of 2024, the share of the United States increased by 19.1 pp. By contrast, the shares of Russia (-5.2 pp) and Algeria (-5.8 pp) decreased in this period. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=EU_imports_of_energy_products_-_latest_developments Stop asking dumb questions. You're wrong, take the L. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: From Turkey, yes. Maybe this will help. - eta - That’s seaborne, I’ll see what I can find via pipeline. I’ll save you the trouble. There are pipelines that end up in Germany. They also went to 100 pct renewables some years back. Wait what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’ll save you the trouble. There are pipelines that end up in Germany. They also went to 100 pct renewables some years back. Wait what? Germany doesn't import Russian oil or lng. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’ll save you the trouble. There are pipelines that end up in Germany. They also went to 100 pct renewables some years back. Wait what? FYI on the effect of the Ukraine shut down. - Hungary & Slovakia are the biggest Byers & I’m guessing Belarus too. - I think some of your data is a year old if even a year out. Germany (pipeline or any source) was one of the biggest sources but a lot changed in 2025. NL & Italy we’re up there but so was Belarus. But thats for Europe, worldwide it was minuscule compared to India & China. Germany at its peak might have been 5% of Russian revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 4 hours ago Pipelines end up in Germany. Right now. With fossil fuels flowing through them. This after they went to all renewables. Please stop arguing the point with your nonsense. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pipelines end up in Germany. Right now. With fossil fuels flowing through them. This after they went to all renewables. Please stop arguing the point with your nonsense. Thanks. No, you're wrong. Germany doesn't import oil or gas from Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: No, you're wrong. Germany doesn't import oil or gas from Germany. You’re right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: No, you're wrong. Germany doesn't import oil or gas from Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re right. Russia. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Russia. My bad. I've heard breathing into a paper bag can help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 3 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pipelines end up in Germany. Right now. With fossil fuels flowing through them. This after they went to all renewables. Please stop arguing the point with your nonsense. Thanks. >>Crude Oil Imports from Russia in Germany remained unchanged at 0 Thousand Tonnes in September. Crude Oil Imports from Russia in Germany averaged 2350.23 Thousand Tonnes from 2008 until 2024, reaching an all time high of 3411.00 Thousand Tonnes in December of 2016 and a record low of 0.00 Thousand Tonnes in February of 2024. source: EUROSTAT<< Trading Economics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: >>Crude Oil Imports from Russia in Germany remained unchanged at 0 Thousand Tonnes in September. Crude Oil Imports from Russia in Germany averaged 2350.23 Thousand Tonnes from 2008 until 2024, reaching an all time high of 3411.00 Thousand Tonnes in December of 2016 and a record low of 0.00 Thousand Tonnes in February of 2024. source: EUROSTAT<< Trading Economics Pipelines end up in Germany. Try and respond to that without mentioning Russia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pipelines end up in Germany. Try and respond to that without mentioning Russia This is sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,207 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: This is sad. I know. Because Russia is the only one with pipelines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Pipelines end up in Germany. Try and respond to that without mentioning Russia Are you trying to say that Germany buys Russian oil but it’s registered as coming from other countries, not Russia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,720 Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I know. Because Russia is the only one with pipelines You think the only pipelines going into Germany are from Russia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,838 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: You think the only pipelines going into Germany are from Russia? Do you often feel like a puppet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 3 hours ago TurkStream is the only Eussian pipeline left sending oil to Europe. In 2024, China & India combined we’re taking in 64% of Russian oil revenues. Today Germany takes in zero. But most importantly overall Euro oil use is down dramatically regardless of source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,569 Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: TurkStream is the only Eussian pipeline left sending oil to Europe. In 2024, China & India combined we’re taking in 64% of Russian oil revenues. Today Germany takes in zero. But most importantly overall Euro oil use is down dramatically regardless of source. Good. More for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 876 Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Strike said: your SJW virtue signaling. Sorry just one other thought on this. This is not about the whales or income equity in 3rd world countries, or even the deranged leader, it’s about capitalism. It’s about markets, cash, crude vs light oil & all means & methods of making energy & the making of many billions of $$$$ from all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,121 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Sorry just one other thought on this. This is not about the whales or income equity in 3rd world countries, or even the deranged leader, it’s about capitalism. It’s about markets, cash, crude vs light oil & all means & methods of making energy & the making of many billions of $$$$ from all that. Still ignoring my main point. Bless your heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites