Frozenbeernuts 2,264 Posted February 23 We should side with the country that makes their cops wear roller blades lol https://x.com/TylerDurden/status/1893665793029587354?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted February 23 47 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: JFC. Ok pudding head, are you aware that Trump and Putin are calling zelensky a dictator and how he needs to hold an election? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 Funny that stupids think Putin cares about Zelensky or whoever sits in that chair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 23 39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Funny that stupids think Putin cares about Zelensky or whoever sits in that chair. Funny you still accept Putin’s redlines and think he should just get everything he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Funny that stupids think Putin cares about Zelensky or whoever sits in that chair. I have no idea why you and others continue to think so highly of this idiot. Of course Putin cares, his invasion of Ukraine has been a total disaster for Russia. Two years in and he has less than 20% of the country, he’s lost billions and thousands of Russians, made his army look incompetent, destroyed his economy. And it’s a stalemate. And you and your hero Trump slobber over this dude. It’s truly embarrassing. (For you.) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I have no idea why you and others continue to think so highly of this idiot. Of course Putin cares, his invasion of Ukraine has been a total disaster for Russia. Two years in and he has less than 20% of the country, he’s lost billions and thousands of Russians, made his army look incompetent, destroyed his economy. And it’s a stalemate. And you and your hero Trump slobber over this dude. It’s truly embarrassing. (For you.) 2 years in. Can't even count. On the anniversary no less. Uneducated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I have no idea why you and others continue to think so highly of this idiot. Of course Putin cares, his invasion of Ukraine has been a total disaster for Russia. Two years in and he has less than 20% of the country, he’s lost billions and thousands of Russians, made his army look incompetent, destroyed his economy. And it’s a stalemate. And you and your hero Trump slobber over this dude. It’s truly embarrassing. (For you.) Donald is jealous of Putin for a variety of reasons. The hardcore magas just follow Don’s lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 36 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Funny you still accept Putin’s redlines and think he should just get everything he wants. The point is, Putin knows the little guy is a puppet. I don’t think you should do this things when a psycho says he’s going to unleash hell if you do, when it’s not your concern. You people act like Ukraine went to the west and asked to join NATO, not the other way around. Then again, the ignorance you people have displayed on this subject is astounding. It’s just another variation of OMB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I have no idea why you and others continue to think so highly of this idiot. Of course Putin cares, his invasion of Ukraine has been a total disaster for Russia. Two years in and he has less than 20% of the country, he’s lost billions and thousands of Russians, made his army look incompetent, destroyed his economy. And it’s a stalemate. And you and your hero Trump slobber over this dude. It’s truly embarrassing. (For you.) No, he doesn’t care who is “in charge” in Ukraine. And he sure as hell doesn’t care about the money or the dead troops. Real smart to pick a fight with that guy when it doesn’t concern you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Yes And they're both saying that he needs to hold an election right? I'm sure your answer here is yes too. The assumption here is that zelensky is grifting off the aid. So why do you think they want an election? Because they want their pro Russian guy in who will surrender. Instead of letting that happen zelensky offers to resign in order to keep Ukraine safe and sovereign. Well that exposes the trump/position of only calling for an election so they can get their guy in. If you still don't understand maybe stir the pudding a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No, he doesn’t care who is “in charge” in Ukraine. And he sure as hell doesn’t care about the money or the dead troops. Real smart to pick a fight with that guy when it doesn’t concern you. Lol who picked a fight with who? Putin FOFA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Lol who picked a fight with who? Putin FOFA He does not care about any losses. What’s he gonna get voted out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The point is, Putin knows the little guy is a puppet. I don’t think you should do this things when a psycho says he’s going to unleash hell if you do, when it’s not your concern. You people act like Ukraine went to the west and asked to join NATO, not the other way around. Then again, the ignorance you people have displayed on this subject is astounding. It’s just another variation of OMB. Who is zelensky a puppet for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He does not care about any losses. What’s he gonna get voted out? Putin doesn't care if he loses this war? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 Just now, TrailGuy said: Who is zelensky a puppet for? Globalists and gangsters. They’re both all over Ukraine with their hands in everything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The point is, Putin knows the little guy is a puppet. I don’t think you should do this things when a psycho says he’s going to unleash hell if you do, when it’s not your concern. You people act like Ukraine went to the west and asked to join NATO, not the other way around. Then again, the ignorance you people have displayed on this subject is astounding. It’s just another variation of OMB. We are choosing allies. Western Europe is who I will side with over Putin. I agree it was some serious balls to cross Putin’s redlines, but now that we have they are worthless talk. Putin has been exposed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: Putin doesn't care if he loses this war? I said losses. Can you control yourself for once and have a conversation? You’ve made some decent points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Globalists and gangsters. They’re both all over Ukraine with their hands in everything. What country do these globalists and gangsters live? What is their goal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: We are choosing allies. Western Europe is who I will side with over Putin. I agree it was some serious balls to cross Putin’s redlines, but now that we have they are worthless talk. Putin has been exposed. Really? He’s got more nukes than we do. He’s a psycho that believes he’s fighting for his countries existence. Have any of you people ever dealt with an actual psycho that can do harm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I said losses. Can you control yourself for once and have a conversation? You’ve made some decent points. If he continues with these losses, don't you think he eventually has to retreat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: What country do these globalists and gangsters live? What is their goal? They’re globalists. They live all over the globe, but mostly in the EU, UK and USA. Power and money, like almost all entities with some power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? He’s got more nukes than we do. He’s a psycho that believes he’s fighting for his countries existence. Have any of you people ever dealt with an actual psycho that can do harm? He’s not nuking anyone. After 5 nukes does it really matter. He’s laughing his ass off that Trump is just going to hand all this over and he gives nothing. What a joke. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They’re globalists. They live all over the globe, but mostly in the EU, UK and USA. Power and money, like almost all entities with some power. Globalism is an idea not an identity. I’m a globalist, but I have no power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, TrailGuy said: If he continues with these losses, don't you think he eventually has to retreat? No. He can stop and dig in right where he is. Another 38th parallel situation. And the longer it goes on, the more accepted and normal it will become. Unless someone is gonna push him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Globalism is an idea not an identity. I’m a globalist, but I have no power. You’re wrong Tim. There are actual globalists. They meet at Davos where they decide how they are going to carve up the globe. And they run many global institutions. You’re funny to think that global institutions aren’t run by globalists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re wrong Tim. There are actual globalists. They meet at Davos where they decide how they are going to carve up the globe. And they run many global institutions. You’re funny to think that global institutions aren’t run by globalists. I’m not wrong. You’re referring to people with the same idea. Some of them have power. Some don’t. it’s a good idea. Free trade, open immigration around the planet. Capitalism everywhere. No nation states. Prosperity and freedom for the entire world. A United States of Earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not wrong. You’re referring to people with the same idea. Some of them have power. Some don’t. it’s a good idea. Free trade, open immigration around the planet. Capitalism everywhere. No nation states. Prosperity and freedom for the entire world. A United States of Earth. And I guess that idea will just happen organically. Hey Tim, can you tell us how much land Blackrock and Blackstone own in Ukraine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: And I guess that idea will just happen organically. Hey Tim, can you tell us how much land Blackrock and Blackstone own in Ukraine? Not nearly as much as you think: https://disinfo.detector.media/en/post/american-companies-bought-a-third-of-agricultural-land-in-ukraine Why do you keep buying into this Russian propaganda? It’s all lies and you’re serving the role of useful idiot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 23 The front lines haven't moved for two years. Ukraine has run out of normal age solders and are now using 40 year olds. Stupids think Ukraine can push Russia back and win if they just keep fighting for a few more years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 23 29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They’re globalists. They live all over the globe, but mostly in the EU, UK and USA. Power and money, like almost all entities with some power. Sounds like a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Horseman said: The front lines haven't moved for two years. Ukraine has run out of normal age solders and are now using 40 year olds. Stupids think Ukraine can push Russia back and win if they just keep fighting for a few more years. Stupids think Russia can push Ukraine back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Stupids think Russia can push Ukraine back. Smart people know it's time to turn off the meat grinder and go to the scorecards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not nearly as much as you think: https://disinfo.detector.media/en/post/american-companies-bought-a-third-of-agricultural-land-in-ukraine Why do you keep buying into this Russian propaganda? It’s all lies and you’re serving the role of useful idiot. Only 1/3 of the agricultural land? Thats a lot Tim. The Ukraine is known as the bread basket of Europe. Most of the land is agricultural. Sigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted February 23 36 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: And they're both saying that he needs to hold an election right? I'm sure your answer here is yes too. The assumption here is that zelensky is grifting off the aid. So why do you think they want an election? Because they want their pro Russian guy in who will surrender. Instead of letting that happen zelensky offers to resign in order to keep Ukraine safe and sovereign. Well that exposes the trump/position of only calling for an election so they can get their guy in. If you still don't understand maybe stir the pudding a bit. This started with my questioning your assertion that Zelensksyy's willingness to step down was "checkmate." An election won't happen while the conflict is active; the logistics are impossible. Regardless, if Zelenskyy steps down and somebody, anybody, is chosen to replace him, how does that help Ukraine stay "safe and sovereign?" How do you know that the new person will be less willing to negotiate/concede than Zelenskyy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Only 1/3 of the agricultural land? Thats a lot Tim. The Ukraine is known as the bread basket of Europe. Most of the land is agricultural. Sigh. No. It’s not 1/3. That’s the lie you’ve bought into. Read it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: This started with my questioning your assertion that Zelensksyy's willingness to step down was "checkmate." An election won't happen while the conflict is active; the logistics are impossible. Regardless, if Zelenskyy steps down and somebody, anybody, is chosen to replace him, how does that help Ukraine stay "safe and sovereign?" How do you know that the new person will be less willing to negotiate/concede than Zelenskyy? Trump could give two sh!ts about an election. He’s just looking for ways to insult Zelensky because Zelensky has gotten in the way of Trump’s peace deal. This is how Trump “negotiates.” He has no clue how to make a deal happen. He bullies and if that doesn’t work he insults and if that doesn’t work he starts blaming other people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump could give two sh!ts about an election. He’s just looking for ways to insult Zelensky because Zelensky has gotten in the way of Trump’s peace deal. This is how Trump “negotiates.” He has no clue how to make a deal happen. He bullies and if that doesn’t work he insults and if that doesn’t work he starts blaming other people. You should bet no peace deal happens under Trump. Nobody would take it though because youre a known welcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted February 23 14 minutes ago, Horseman said: You should bet no peace deal happens under Trump. Nobody would take it though because youre a known welcher. I continue to hope for a peace deal to happen. But it has to be honorable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted February 23 What concessions is Russia giving here? There has to be something, right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
