Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 21 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: To be honest, the only Superbowl that matters is the last one. Who cares what happened in 2012? Nobody remembers or cares Yeah. No one remembers 18-1. You’re being clownish now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929 Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: 14 years ago? Tampa Bay says hold my beer Recency bias? Is that what you think? 13 NFL Championships. 13. Count'em. You win TWO and suddenly think you're all that and a bag of chips? That might work against vikings fans, but know your place when you're trying to stack yourself up against the Packers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 21 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. No one remembers 18-1. You’re being clownish now. You care, nobody else does. I have no problem with it, you're a Giants fan, you should remember it. It means nothing to the rest of us. I'm already over the Eagles Superbowl win and onto this season. That's how it works when you have something to look forward to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 666 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, MDC said: I just checked. The Philadelphia Eagles are still Super Bowl champs. Mdc's greatest personal achievement in life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,037 Posted May 22 Good on the NFL to shut down these crybaby whiners. At least those that voted no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 It’s just boring. Thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,836 Posted May 22 When a team has an all pro kick returner they just paid and a team submits something to change the kickoff rules each year....they havent cried about taking away their strength. Some how Philthy and their "tush push" is sacred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 22 It's over fellas. The NFL has spoken. Get over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,499 Posted May 22 I'm not sure what the issue is, regarding the Eagles. I think it's overblown. The Eagles converted on 83% of their attempts, the NFL league-wide (excluding the Eagles), converted on 71%. So, out of 10 attempts, the Eagles convert one more time than the rest of the league. That's not a big deal. I think if other teams actually did it and practiced it more, they'd be just as successful... so, a whole ONE more successful attempt out of 10. I personally don't think the play should be allowed because the person with the ball isn't even running. The players pushing the QB, lift him off the ground. Why is that even legal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 It’s focking boring. Now the rest of the league will copy and it will get even more boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s focking boring. Now the rest of the league will copy and it will get even more boring. It's definitely boring, I agree. But it's part.of the game now. Defend better and don't let teams get in that situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,194 Posted May 22 Is the usual QB sneak exciting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 29 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It's definitely boring, I agree. But it's part.of the game now. Defend better and don't let teams get in that situation. It’s not like it’s some genius play only the eagles can do. Now you’ll see everyone doing it and it will evolve into Tight ends and running backs taking the snap. Awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 I don’t remember QB’s getting pushed on sneaks years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 22 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s not like it’s some genius play only the eagles can do. Now you’ll see everyone doing it and it will evolve into Tight ends and running backs taking the snap. Awesome. I hear ya but I don't think it's much different from a fans perspective than watching a fat ass AJ Dillon pound it in from the half yard line. Again, I couldn't care less one way or the other. Do away with it for all I care. The Eagles o-line will get a yard every time anyhow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 You can’t use percentages when gauging this play. 1st and goal from the 1 and 4th and goal are far apart. As a matter of fact, a coach would be stuoid to try and defend it on 1st and goal from the one. Just let them score if there is time left. I’m not risking my D players for such a low risk chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,216 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'm not sure what the issue is, regarding the Eagles. I think it's overblown. The Eagles converted on 83% of their attempts, the NFL league-wide (excluding the Eagles), converted on 71%. So, out of 10 attempts, the Eagles convert one more time than the rest of the league. That's not a big deal. I think if other teams actually did it and practiced it more, they'd be just as successful... so, a whole ONE more successful attempt out of 10. I personally don't think the play should be allowed because the person with the ball isn't even running. The players pushing the QB, lift him off the ground. Why is that even legal? I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,216 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, MDC said: Is the usual QB sneak exciting? I found Bart Starr's sneak in the Ice Bowl exciting. I note that Chuck Mercein did not push him from behind. He did it on his own with great blocks from his line, maybe Jerry Kramer, and Ken Bowman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 22 5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile. Ratings would quadruple overnight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,499 Posted May 22 52 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile. See, that's exactly why I don't understand why the tush push is even legal to begin with. What you stated is illegal. What's the difference between carrying and throwing? In both cases, the person moving the ball isn't on the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,084 Posted May 22 What a thing of beauty it was when Walter Payton took flight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,216 Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What a thing of beauty it was when Walter Payton took flight. Marcus Allen had the leap down as well. As a Packer fan i had to give Payton his due. He was a good to great back in pretty much every game he played, but he was otherwordly against the Packers and there is no denying that. Hell, he even blocked a kick against the Packers after he past away. That is performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,106 Posted May 22 The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,825 Posted May 22 Just now, Fnord said: The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind. Every team does it, you idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929 Posted May 22 Just now, Fnord said: The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind. Agreed. I don't want anyone to get hurt playing football, but in this case I certainly hope it happens because Eagles fans are the absolute WORST fanbase not just in the NFL, but in ALL of professional sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,106 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Agreed. I don't want anyone to get hurt playing football, but in this case I certainly hope it happens because Eagles fans are the absolute WORST fanbase not just in the NFL, but in ALL of professional sports. I mean, I don't want guys to get hurt either, but I'll be pretty pissed if someone like Josh Allen (or the Vikes new savior, JJ McCarthy) got hurt instead of Hurts. Fuckit, who am I kidding? It will definitely be McCarthy that gets decapitated and has his career ruined. The NFL changes rules only after the Vikings suffer ridiculous, humiliating defeats due to stupid rules. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,216 Posted May 22 8 hours ago, Fnord said: I mean, I don't want guys to get hurt either, but I'll be pretty pissed if someone like Josh Allen (or the Vikes new savior, JJ McCarthy) got hurt instead of Hurts. Fuckit, who am I kidding? It will definitely be McCarthy that gets decapitated and has his career ruined. The NFL changes rules only after the Vikings suffer ridiculous, humiliating defeats due to stupid rules. Let's face it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,106 Posted May 22 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: Let's fce it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn. No argument there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 666 Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: Let's fce it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn. Or Tony Orlando for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
