2025 NFL Combine

[DocNiner 70]

The combine starts Thursday and like to hear you guys thoughts on players. Top 2 ranked QBs won't be participating. RB Jeanty not running. So what positions and or players are you interested in checking out. Will the be another 40 time record beating Worthy's run last year. Will any of the other QBs stock rise with their performance at the combine. We know there's always wheeling and dealing at the combine so any thoughts on what teams try to move up in the draft. Will there be any surprises during the combine? Thanks for your input.

[JagFan 157]

I’m curious to see if Riley Leonard can improve on his current projection as an early day 3 pick.  He has a big arm and runs close to a 4.5 40.  Needs to work on his accuracy.  I think he could end up being the best QB in this draft.  Probably not out of the gate, but long term.

[listen2me 23 1,846]

I always like watching the defensive side of the ball.  Particularly the DBs.  

The top of drafts bore me.  Day 2 WR prospects are always fun to follow.   Be interested to see what Higgins, Trey Harris, Bech run.   A good time from one could push thrm up the board.  Trey Harris probably thr one who has a outside shot of end of 1st round.  

[League Champion 1,909]

I want to see this group of RBs separate themselves. 

[DocNiner 70]

3 hours ago, JagFan said:

I’m curious to see if Riley Leonard can improve on his current projection as an early day 3 pick.  He has a big arm and runs close to a 4.5 40.  Needs to work on his accuracy.  I think he could end up being the best QB in this draft.  Probably not out of the gate, but long term.

Yes, well Leonard is tall at 6'5" so he won't have trouble looking over the top of players that smaller QBs have issues with sometimes. He does need to improve his accuracy but he could go in the 2nd round.  I'm also looking to see how Quinn Ewers does at the combine. He had a torn labrum last year I believe that caused him to play tentatively and affected his confidence. If he can get back his confidence he could develop into a good nfl QB. There doesn't seem to be elite level QBs in this draft so there's a chance that outside of Ward, Sanders and Jaxson Dart the other QBs could easily fall to round 3 and later as most will be projects.

   I also want to see how the runningbacks do. Pretty much the consensus has Ashton Jeanty as the top back and pretty sure he'll go in the 1st round. I bet Dalls is hoping he falls to them at #12. Don't really see a yeam jumping up ahead of Dallas to get him. If Ward and Sanders are gone before the Raiders pick at #6, which is a good possibility, I could see them grabbing Jeanty. They desperately need weapons as Brock Bowers is clearly their top offensive weapon and a good rb.I think would benefit Bowers. Then they could take a shot on a day 2 QB because what they currently have at the QB position is not the answer so they could even go get one of the free agent QBs that'll be available. I think Cousins would be a good fit for them . Lots of storyline in this year's combine and it'll be interesting to see who rises and who falls and maybe some players no one thought would do much blows them away with their performance. Being a football junky and having football withdrawals,LOL, the combine will at least sate my hunger for some football action for the time being. Hope you all enjoy the combine and feel free to comment on anything here as the combine gets rolling. Thanks for your insightful input.

[jrokh 608]

Already, Cam Ward, Shadeur Sanders, Ashton Jeanty, Abdul Carter, and Tyler Warren aren't doing drills, Combine is getting watered down, Travis Hunter needs to put on a show...

[listen2me 23 1,846]

Sort of wild to me that Jeanty very well may go top 10.   Hes good obviously but sort of crazy in my eyes, especially if its a team with tons of holes.  

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6 hours ago, jrokh said:

Already, Cam Ward, Shadeur Sanders, Ashton Jeanty, Abdul Carter, and Tyler Warren aren't doing drills, Combine is getting watered down, Travis Hunter needs to put on a show...

They'll do it at their Pro Says instead. I wouldn't risk it either 

[DocNiner 70]

On 2/26/2025 at 11:41 AM, listen2me 23 said:

Sort of wild to me that Jeanty very well may go top 10.   Hes good obviously but sort of crazy in my eyes, especially if its a team with tons of holes.  

I've seen some draft pundits mocks that have Jeanty going to the JETS with their early 1st round pick. That absolutely makes no sense with them having Breece Hall so I don't see that happening. I'd almost bet thought that if Jeanty is available when the Cowboys pick at #12 that they take Jeanty. 

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21 minutes ago, DocNiner said:

I've seen some draft pundits mocks that have Jeanty going to the JETS with their early 1st round pick. That absolutely makes no sense with them having Breece Hall so I don't see that happening. I'd almost bet thought that if Jeanty is available when the Cowboys pick at #12 that they take Jeanty. 

The Jets makes no sense even tho Hall has underwhelmed/injuries.  

Im just not a big RB in the first guy.  And I dont care if the position had a revival of sorts last year.  If you pick top 10, chances are you have plenty of holes and are not in position to compete.  So barreling a high picked RB 600 times in 2 years before you even develop a competitive team seems like a waste of the guy.  

That and hes already got the ball a ton.  Like 376 carries last season.  750 over his 3 years in college.  That and he played for Boise St.  What stout defenses do they play?  His last game in the playoff vs Penn State he had like 3.5 per carry.   

Im sure he will be a good player.  Not saying he will suck.  I just dont understand a lower level team taking him.  Dallas is Dallas.  But that would sort of fit knowing Jerrah and the fact Dowdle is a FA.  (Sneaky good year by him)  They certainly have some holes but maybr not as many as most other teams picking near and earlier than them.  

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Heres an issue I have drafting a RB high.  Unless they blow a knee you basically have to pay them a 2nd contract.   Thats fine as if you spend a 1st on one yeah itd be nice to actually retain a good player.  

James Cook is asking for 15 mill per from the Bills.  Now thats just a number he put up high and wont get quite that.  And nice player no doubt.  He played less than 50% of snaps.  

Meanwhile 4th round rookie RB Bucky Irving had more rush yards, higher average, and more catches.  Chuba Hubbard had more rush yards and receptions on the lowly Panthers. The Bills have an upper tier OL.  Cant you just draft mid rounders if you have a quality line and keep it going much cheaper???   Rico Dowdle had more rushing yards and more catches than Cook, not getting the full load until several weeks into the year, with Cooper Rush at QB scaring no one away from the line.  

RB is still very replaceable.  To spend a high pick and then have to pay them in 3 or 4 years, is just not good business.  Then throw in the fact that its a position that has 250-300lbs men tackling you each play.  

 

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7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Heres an issue I have drafting a RB high.  Unless they blow a knee you basically have to pay them a 2nd contract.   Thats fine as if you spend a 1st on one yeah itd be nice to actually retain a good player.  

James Cook is asking for 15 mill per from the Bills.  Now thats just a number he put up high and wont get quite that.  And nice player no doubt.  He played less than 50% of snaps.  

Meanwhile 4th round rookie RB Bucky Irving had more rush yards, higher average, and more catches.  Chuba Hubbard had more rush yards and receptions on the lowly Panthers. The Bills have an upper tier OL.  Cant you just draft mid rounders if you have a quality line and keep it going much cheaper???   Rico Dowdle had more rushing yards and more catches than Cook, not getting the full load until several weeks into the year, with Cooper Rush at QB scaring no one away from the line.  

RB is still very replaceable.  To spend a high pick and then have to pay them in 3 or 4 years, is just not good business.  Then throw in the fact that its a position that has 250-300lbs men tackling you each play.  

 

Agreed.  I had to quickly look up those comparisons, surprisingly Dowdle had more rush yards.  

Cooks 18 tds, 16 rushing impressive, but of all those players you listed, Cook has the better a O-Line, and better overall team.  

Nice post.  

[jrokh 608]

Drafting RB early seems to have worked out for the Lions...

[Maximum Overkill 1,898]

I have 1.03 and 1.05 in a Dynasty Rookie Draft. I'm praying they Hampton and Judkins are both available when I pick. 

You can keep all the WRs 

[listen2me 23 1,846]

11 hours ago, jrokh said:

Drafting RB early seems to have worked out for the Lions...

They were the best team in the league and didnt even get to the conf championship game.  

They also have put together a top 2 OL in football.  With one of the brighter offensive minds calling plays and hitting on Laporta and Amon Ra.  And Goff is a solid QB.  

Gibbs is dynamic.  But no taking a RB early seems like bad business.  Id much rather pay a premium position a 2nd contract than a RB.  

Some elite RBs who actually get the touches (Cook saw less than 50% of snaps) do well.  But there are also countless journeymen who put up stats at RB.  

Is CMac a top tier back?  Yes.  You also know what Jordan Mason as an undrafted player has avg each year in his 3 years with the 9ers?  6.0 per carry, 5.2, 5.2.  

Now go plug in an undrafted WR in Justin Jefferson's spot and compare the difference.   

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25 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

They were the best team in the league and didnt even get to the conf championship game.  

They also have put together a top 2 OL in football.  With one of the brighter offensive minds calling plays and hitting on Laporta and Amon Ra.  And Goff is a solid QB.  

Gibbs is dynamic.  But no taking a RB early seems like bad business.  Id much rather pay a premium position a 2nd contract than a RB.  

Some elite RBs who actually get the touches (Cook saw less than 50% of snaps) do well.  But there are also countless journeymen who put up stats at RB.  

Is CMac a top tier back?  Yes.  You also know what Jordan Mason as an undrafted player has avg each year in his 3 years with the 9ers?  6.0 per carry, 5.2, 5.2.  

Now go plug in an undrafted WR in Justin Jefferson's spot and compare the difference.   

This is why landing spot is typically more important than draft capital. 

[listen2me 23 1,846]

Lets not stop at Jordan Mason running for over 5 yards a pop as an undrafted rb.  

Lets not forget the great Isaac Guerendo who also got touches this year with Cmac out.  4th round rb in his rookie year thrust into action.   Oh just a cool 5.0 per carry.