Parents call out unfairness as trans pitcher throws shutout in Minnesota softball state quarterfinals

[TimHauck 3,273]

20 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

He pulled that BS on me a couple weeks ago and I just blocked his dumb a$$.  He still tags me in posts because people quote him and I can see it.  The whole forum should just block him.

@BrahmaBulls sure likes talking about me despite claiming to “ignore” me, weird

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So this tranny is a pitcher? Interesting 

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Riley Gaines is still whining about Simone Biles, even after she apologized when she really shouldn’t have.  Talk about obsessed…

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_/status/1942947091912732800
 

 

I thought you said Biles only apologized for her personal attacks on Gaines, and not her stance on trans athletes.  Gaines here, is talking about Biles' stance on trans athletes (to wit, Biles did NOT apologize for).

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29 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I thought you said Biles only apologized for her personal attacks on Gaines, and not her stance on trans athletes.  Gaines here, is talking about Biles' stance on trans athletes (to wit, Biles did NOT apologize for).

She did, but she didn’t need to, however she chose to be the bigger (metaphorical) person in the situation.

And again, I’m pretty sure Biles never even said she thinks biological males should be allowed in women’s sports…
 

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

She did, but she didn’t need to, however she chose to be the bigger (metaphorical) person in the situation.

And again, I’m pretty sure Biles never even said she thinks biological males should be allowed in women’s sports…
 

LOL, well, she kinda had to because she was the only one acting like a child... Gaines was perfectly fine.

You would be wrong then.  If someone says "finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue", it means that while a separate category is acceptable, so is including them.  "Include"... "Inclusive".  I mean, it's right there.

 

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15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, well, she kinda had to because she was the only one acting like a child... Gaines was perfectly fine.

You would be wrong then.  If someone says "finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue", it means that while a separate category is acceptable, so is including them.  "Include"... "Inclusive".  I mean, it's right there.

 

Biles literally said “maybe a transgender category in all sports.”

Learn to read please.

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Biles literally said “maybe a transgender category in all sports.”

Learn to read please.

I quoted her, I got it right.  Also, Gaines said the same thing.  What Biles did, as I also quoted, shows she's ok with men in women's sports.  Maybe you need to take a Hooked on Phonics class.

Biles was being a douche because she needs to virtue signal.  Why?  I don't know, but that's all it was.  I see no problem with Gaines calling her out as a douche.  She's right for doing so.

It's probably in your best interest to stop acting like Biles (douche), and stop with YOUR "obsession" with Gaines.  You're on the losing side.

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I quoted her, I got it right.  Also, Gaines said the same thing.  What Biles did, as I also quoted, shows she's ok with men in women's sports. 

No, you are inferring things into her statement that she didn’t actually say. So, you’re making things up per usual.

Edit: Funny that you draw that conclusion but will still refuse to admit that Gaines is against trans people as a whole and not just in sports.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

No, you are inferring things into her statement that she didn’t actually say. So, you’re making things up per usual.

She literally said it, and I quoted it "finding a way to make sports inclusive".  The only way to make it more inclusive than it already is, is to make the rule and/or law, to lock it in as 'legal'.  How is that NOT saying she's ok with men in sports?

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

She literally said it, and I quoted it "finding a way to make sports inclusive".  The only way to make it more inclusive than it already is, is to make the rule and/or law, to lock it in as 'legal'.  How is that NOT saying she's ok with men in sports?

She said make “SPORTS” inclusive, not “WOMEN’S sports.”  Her suggestion is to create a trans category.  It’s a stupid idea, but she’s not saying to allow biological males in women’s sports.

Holy fock you’re dumb.

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8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She said make “SPORTS” inclusive, not “WOMEN’S sports.”  Her suggestion is to create a trans category.  It’s a stupid idea, but she’s not saying to allow biological males in women’s sports.

Holy fock you’re dumb.

How was Sports not inclusive before?

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

How was Sports not inclusive before?

Seems Biles’ opinion is that they should have a trans category.  

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She said make “SPORTS” inclusive, not “WOMEN’S sports.”  Her suggestion is to create a trans category.  It’s a stupid idea, but she’s not saying to allow biological males in women’s sports.

Holy fock you’re dumb.

Wow!  That's next gen incompetence right there.  Like I said before, you need stop because no one has ever been more wrong on any topic, ever.

#1 "Sports" and "Women's Sports"?  There's a women's and men's division already, you can't make them more inclusive unless you allow men to play in women's sports and women to play in men's.

#2 Gaines said suggested to have a trans category.  Biles apparently agrees with her.  I don't think it's a stupid idea, I just don't think it'll work because of... a) biological women will not want to compete against biological men and 2) there wouldn't be enough representation in each sport.

If I grant you that I am an idiot, then what does make you... AS: 1) Gaines and Biles agree that men shouldn't be allowed in sports.  2) Gaines and Biles agree that a possible solution would be to make them their own category.  3) Gaines was an actual victim (men playing in women's sports were NOT).  4) Other biological women were and are, actual victims, not the men playing in women's sports).

So, Biles and Gaines agree.. Biles calls out Gaines and acts like a douche, and you agree with her.  So, what's that make you and Biles?

 

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Wow!  That's next gen incompetence right there.  Like I said before, you need stop because no one has ever been more wrong on any topic, ever.

#1 "Sports" and "Women's Sports"?  There's a women's and men's division already, you can't make them more inclusive unless you allow men to play in women's sports and women to play in men's.

#2 Gaines said suggested to have a trans category.  Biles apparently agrees with her.  I don't think it's a stupid idea, I just don't think it'll work because of... a) biological women will not want to compete against biological men and 2) there wouldn't be enough representation in each sport.

If I grant you that I am an idiot, then what does make you... AS: 1) Gaines and Biles agree that men shouldn't be allowed in sports.  2) Gaines and Biles agree that a possible solution would be to make them their own category.  3) Gaines was an actual victim (men playing in women's sports were NOT).  4) Other biological women were and are, actual victims, not the men playing in women's sports).

So, Biles and Gaines agree.. Biles calls out Gaines and acts like a douche, and you agree with her.  So, what's that make you and Biles?

 

Your #2 answers your #1, genius.

Correct, Biles was not disagreeing with her overall point, she was simply calling Gaines out for directing hate towards a child.

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Seems Biles’ opinion is that they should have a trans category.  

That doesn't make it inclusive.  If it wasn't inclusive those people would have been prevented from participating previously.  But they weren't.  Adding another category has nothing to do with inclusiveness.  That's how you know she's full of sh*t.  She's just speaking out of her a$$.

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Just now, Strike said:

That doesn't make it inclusive.  If it wasn't inclusive those people would have been prevented from participating previously.  But they weren't.  Adding another category has nothing to do with inclusiveness.  That's how you know she's full of sh*t.  She's just speaking out of her a$$.

Well according to their website, the MSHSL does not sponsor boys’ softball. So the child that inspired this thread would not have been able to play softball.

 

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well according to their website, the MSHSL does not sponsor boys’ softball. So the child that inspired this thread would not have been able to play softball.

 

So the answer to an organization not sponsoring Men's softball is to add a Tranny division?  Simon Biles was talking about men's softball when she commented on "inclusion" in sports?   There you go again.  

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

So the answer to an organization not sponsoring Men's softball is to add a Tranny division?  Simon Biles was talking about men's softball when she commented on "inclusion" in sports?   There you go again.  

She was talking about sports as a whole, I was just providing an example of where sports were not inclusive, the very example that inspired this thread and her tweet to Gaines. But yes, I believe it is Simone Biles’ opinion that the “answer” is a tranny division, even though I also think that’s a stupid idea.

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Your #2 answers your #1, genius.

Correct, Biles was not disagreeing with her overall point, she was simply calling Gaines out for directing hate towards a child.

Got it, so you and Biles are douche's.  That's all we needed to clarify.  Thanks.  We're done now?

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Got it, so you and Biles are douche's.  That's all we needed to clarify.  Thanks.  We're done now?

If not wanting to direct hate towards a child makes me a douche, then sure.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She was talking about sports as a whole, I was just providing an example of where sports were not inclusive, the very example that inspired this thread and her tweet to Gaines. But yes, I believe it is Simone Biles’ opinion that the “answer” is a tranny division, even though I also think that’s a stupid idea.

GTFOH man.  We were talking about the Biles/Gaines/Olbermann feuds.  And specifically in this recent tangent about Biles' comments, especially about inclusiveness.  She isn't talking about men's softball.  And you KNOW IT.  You do this ALL THE TIME.  We keep calling you out on it.  Just STOP.

[TimHauck 3,273]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

GTFOH man.  We were talking about the Biles/Gaines/Olbermann feuds.  And specifically in this recent tangent about Biles' comments, especially about inclusiveness.  She isn't talking about men's softball.  And you KNOW IT.  You do this ALL THE TIME.  We keep calling you out on it.  Just STOP.

I never said she was talking about men’s softball.  That was in response to you claiming that sports already were inclusive.  As in regards to the very example that started the Biles/Gaines feud, one could argue they are not.

How would adding a tranny category not be more inclusive?

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I never said she was talking about men’s softball.  That was in response to you claiming that sports already were inclusive.  As in regards to the very example that started the Biles/Gaines feud, one could argue they are not.

How would adding a tranny category not be more inclusive?

When I asked what about sports wasn't inclusive before, you responded:

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Seems Biles’ opinion is that they should have a trans category.  

So clearly you KNEW the context of my question.  Again, GTFOH.  I'm not playing your game of moving the goalposts when you can't answer a question.

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

When I asked what about sports wasn't inclusive before, you responded:

So clearly you KNEW the context of my question.  Again, GTFOH.  I'm not playing your game of moving the goalposts when you can't answer a question.

What question are you taking about?  When you said how was sports not inclusive before, I answered that Biles’ opinion seems to be that they should add a trans category.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

What question are you taking about?  When you said how was sports not inclusive before, I answered that Biles’ opinion seems to be that they should add a trans category.

Exactly.  We were discussing Biles' comments.  Then you tried to move the goalposts once you were cornered, as you always do.  If you need to, go back and read our back and forth.  It's all about Biles' comments.  If you want to continue it from that POV/context, great.  If you want to move the goalposts, GTFOH.

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Exactly.  We were discussing Biles' comments.  Then you tried to move the goalposts once you were cornered, as you always do.  If you need to, go back and read our back and forth.  It's all about Biles' comments.  If you want to continue it from that POV/context, great.  If you want to move the goalposts, GTFOH.

I wasn’t “cornered,” you made a stupid statement that adding a trans category wouldn’t make sports inclusive.  Please explain how adding a trans category wouldn’t be more inclusive.

Thanks in advance.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Her suggestion is to create a trans category.  It’s a stupid idea,

Why is that a stupid idea? Do you like watching Men whoop up on real Women? 

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4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Why is that a stupid idea? Do you like watching Men whoop up on real Women? 

Because there aren’t enough trannies to fill teams 

[JuneJuly 212]

2 full pages of Metal Helmet arguing semantics. Awesome.  I'll leave the same advise here as I did in the Abrego Garcia thread:

I'd advise everyone to not try and have a conversation with an autistic retard. I mean what's your IQ if you think football helmets are made of metal and you can't have sex with your socks and shoes on. Enough said. Let'em flounder and drool in the corner by themselves.

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12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Because there aren’t enough trannies to fill teams 

Who's problem is that? So what's your answer, let them beat up on Girls?? 

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54 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I wasn’t “cornered,” you made a stupid statement that adding a trans category wouldn’t make sports inclusive.  Please explain how adding a trans category wouldn’t be more inclusive.

Thanks in advance.

Because people can play the sport of their biological sex.  NOONE is EXCLUDED.  And again, this discussion is in the context of Biles' comments, NOT men playing softball.  And for the record, the reason men's softball doesn't exist is because MEN don't WANT to play softball competitively.  They have BASEBALL for that.  So stop with your goalpost moving once you're cornered.   HTH.

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1 hour ago, JuneJuly said:

2 full pages of Metal Helmet arguing semantics. Awesome.  I'll leave the same advise here as I did in the Abrego Garcia thread:

I'd advise everyone to not try and have a conversation with an autistic retard. I mean what's your IQ if you think football helmets are made of metal and you can't have sex with your socks and shoes on. Enough said. Let'em flounder and drool in the corner by themselves.

Do you think Riley Gaines didn’t call Olbermann gay as an insult too? 

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1 hour ago, Strike said:

Because people can play the sport of their biological sex.  NOONE is EXCLUDED.  And again, this discussion is in the context of Biles' comments, NOT men playing softball.  And for the record, the reason men's softball doesn't exist is because MEN don't WANT to play softball competitively.  They have BASEBALL for that.  So stop with your goalpost moving once you're cornered.   HTH.

So you disagree with Biles, you are welcome to your opinion.  That doesn’t mean she was saying biological males should be allowed in women’s sports, which is what @TBayXXXVII was claiming before you jumped in.

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14 hours ago, Strike said:

How was Sports not inclusive before?

Not enough whites in the NBA or NFL. 

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12 hours ago, TimHauck said:

So you disagree with Biles, you are welcome to your opinion.  That doesn’t mean she was saying biological males should be allowed in women’s sports, which is what @TBayXXXVII was claiming before you jumped in.

Of course she was.  That's what prompted my question about inclusiveness to you in the first place.  Instead of answering it you've been avoiding it ever since.

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Just now, Strike said:

Of course she does.  That's what prompted my question about inclusiveness to you in the first place.  Instead of answering it you've been avoiding it ever since.

I answered it.  Her stated opinion is that maybe they should add a transgender category.   If you can quote me where she says biological males should be allowed in women’s sports then I will admit I am wrong, until then I will correctly point out that you are putting words in her mouth.

Hilarious that you think that’s what she’s saying despite never saying it, but won’t admit that Gaines was calling Olbermann gay as an insult. Bizarro world in this place.

 

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Simone Biles direct quote: I was not advocating for policies that compromise fairness in women’s sports

@Strike and @TBayXXXVII: that means she wants men in women’s sports!

lol

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40 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Simone Biles direct quote: I was not advocating for policies that compromise fairness in women’s sports

@Strike and @TBayXXXVII: that means she wants men in women’s sports!

lol

Yeah we get it.  Unless they literally come out and say it you won't believe it if it doesn't fit your world view.  You and the other Tim are so much alike in this regard.  It's fitting that you both have the same name.  I think of you guys synonymously as it comes to posting.

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

Yeah we get it.  Unless they literally come out and say it you won't believe it if it doesn't fit your world view.  You and the other Tim are so much alike in this regard.  It's fitting that you both have the same name.  I think of you guys synonymously as it comes to posting.

I prefer not to put words in people’s mouths.  If you do, more power to ya I guess.

Sure, there are times where I try to draw conclusions based on things someone has said (and if it’s on this board, I will usually ask it directly, unfortunately people like @EternalShinyAndChrome will often avoid the question).  But you drawing the conclusion that Biles wants men in women’s sports just because she talked trash on Riley Gaines is ridiculous.

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Tagged again!

Let me say this: I typically won't respond to disingenuous questions or attempts at straw-manning, gaslighting or deliberately misrepresenting my position.  I entertained you for a while but you refuse to argue in good faith so it's not worth mine or, frankly, anyone's time to have a discourse with you.  You're not honest.