SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: I guess, saying that you have to ask yourself. After 15 years of hard core reporting, before this became a political rallying cry for the left. Why has nothing tangible been found? it does make you wonder if there simply isn't anything out there to find. I disagree nothing tangible has been found. Brunel was prosecuted in France (he also committed suicide btw), Andrew dethroned in UK, & a UK cabinet member has been dismissed. Keep going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: But they didn’t. Neither did Barr. But Maxwell has already received beneficial treatment, which is what happened wuth Epstein in his first conviction. What's so awful is how political it has gotten. Because of that, the truth may never come out. And yeah, that's because there are probably some big time powerful people with some explaining to do. Like Trump or Clinton. So us little peons will never know the real truth 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I disagree nothing tangible has been found. Brunel was prosecuted in France (he also committed suicide btw), Andrew dethroned in UK, & a UK cabinet member has been dismissed. Keep going. The only thing I saw that seemed really credible was the Andrew stuff. The pictures with that girl, her coming out saying he did it. The reaction from the Crown. That one has real legs. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 21 hours ago Just now, supermike80 said: The only thing I saw that seemed really credible was the Andrew stuff. The pictures with that girl, her coming out saying he did it. The reaction from the Crown. That one has real legs. I mean if a picture came out with Trump holding an underaged girl, then the girl coming out and saying he did things...I'd believe it. But so far, I haven't see that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 21 hours ago Just now, supermike80 said: The only thing I saw that seemed really credible was the Andrew stuff. The pictures with that girl, her coming out saying he did it. The reaction from the Crown. That one has real legs. That was one picture & it came from Giuffre. Her recent memoir has a section where she talks about Dershowitz going in and out of the room while she was “with” Epstein. Dershowitz has also written a couple op-eds where he’s defended ‘relationships’ with minor girls. This man also complains he’s been shunned by society. To follow up on Foam’s point, if the only result is these people are ostracized I say shun away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: That was one picture & it came from Giuffre. Her recent memoir has a section where she talks about Dershowitz going in and out of the room while she was “with” Epstein. Dershowitz has also written a couple op-eds where he’s defended ‘relationships’ with minor girls. This man also complains he’s been shunned by society. To follow up on Foam’s point, if the only result is these people are ostracized I say shun away. See now I wasn't aware of this. But yeah I'm sure there are some credible scumbag accounts out there. My point was on the GET TRUMP focus of the democratic party. Maybe it does actually lead to something, but I would think it would have bene found by now. And a few pictures of him at fundraisers or other things, means absolutely nothing. However they are putting a lot of energy into this 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 21 hours ago 7 minutes ago, supermike80 said: I mean if a picture came out with Trump holding an underaged girl, then the girl coming out and saying he did things...I'd believe it. But so far, I haven't see that. Epstein’s biographer says such a photo exists or did exist (& a graphic one at that). I get that maga (or whoever) says that’s not enough. Fine I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, supermike80 said: See now I wasn't aware of this. But yeah I'm sure there are some credible scumbag accounts out there. My point was on the GET TRUMP focus of the democratic party. Maybe it does actually lead to something, but I would think it would have bene found by now. They are putting a lot of energy into this Well the whole country is mired like that on everything. It’s ridiculous. We can’t do anything anymore because even basic things are partisan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Epstein’s biographer says such a photo exists or did exist (& a graphic one at that). I get that maga (or whoever) says thats not enough. Fine I agree. Bring it on. If it's out there, then that would be a killer obviously. Until that comes out, this is nothing 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 20 hours ago 21 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You know what’s funny about this? Biden appears nowhere in the Epstein data, not once. Nor does Harris, or the Obamas. Clinton, the US Rep for USVI, Summers & a major Dem consultant do. So does Steve Bannon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,140 Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: You know what’s funny about this? Biden appears nowhere in the Epstein data, not once. Nor does Harris, or the Obamas. Clinton, the US Rep for USVI, Summers & a major Dem consultant do. So does Steve Bannon. I believe that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,214 Posted 20 hours ago 8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: You know what’s funny about this? Biden appears nowhere in the Epstein data, not once. Nor does Harris, or the Obamas. Clinton, the US Rep for USVI, Summers & a major Dem consultant do. So does Steve Bannon. I heard Biden was too depraved and creepy for Epstein. Also, Epstein was not into the ghay stuff so he was not allegedly in the same circles as BHO. Harris was too old and homely to get any action in that crowd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: I heard Biden was too depraved and creepy for Epstein. Also, Epstein was not into the ghay stuff so he was not allegedly in the same circles as BHO. Harris was too old and homely to get any action in that crowd Ok, they had no involvement with Epstein. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,214 Posted 20 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: Ok, they had no involvement with Epstein. Thank you. Obamas were Diddy and Jay—Z folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 20 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Obamas were Diddy and Jay—Z folks. Comey’s daughter convicted Combs. And she was fired for it. Trump may well still pardon him, & iirc Trump went to his parties. And the number of people who hung with Combs and Epstein must be really, really small. I’m not sure why you’d go there. Though IMO Combs was playing a similar game as Epstein. Hence Epstein’s proclivity for taking pics with people like Bannon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,214 Posted 19 hours ago 43 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Comey’s daughter convicted Combs. And she was fired for it. Trump may well still pardon him, & iirc Trump went to his parties. And the number of people who hung with Combs and Epstein must be really, really small. I’m not sure why you’d go there. Though IMO Combs was playing a similar game as Epstein. Hence Epstein’s proclivity for taking pics with people like Bannon. Comey’s daughter did a stellar job getting a strong sentence on Diddy. Trump is a top tier celebrity. He’s an icon. Now he’s associated with every acquaintance during his illustrious career. I judge a man by his actions and accomplishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Comey’s daughter did a stellar job getting a strong sentence on Diddy. Trump is a top tier celebrity. He’s an icon. Now he’s associated with every acquaintance during his illustrious career. I judge a man by his actions and accomplishments. Btw sorry to be clear the simple point I was making is that once Epstein was convicted in 2008 anyone & everyone was on notice. Same with Combs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 19 hours ago Trump banned Epstein from his resort in 2007. He also willingly, without a subpoena, gave a statement concerning Epstein. The only one to do so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 19 hours ago Saint Moron and Gutterboy don’t want to mention that. Also, Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,395 Posted 19 hours ago 95k images released by the Epstein estate. Hopefully some people get their lives destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,395 Posted 19 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump banned Epstein from his resort in 2007. He also willingly, without a subpoena, gave a statement concerning Epstein. The only one to do so. Trump spent thanksgiving with Epstein in 2017. Stop it. They were best friends for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,395 Posted 19 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Saint Moron and Gutterboy don’t want to mention that. Also, Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010. The same Maxwell that Trump moved to a minimum security prison? If the Clinton's are involved then fock them. Anyone involved with this sh1t needs to be held accountable. Any real man with kids agrees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,214 Posted 19 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: 95k images released by the Epstein estate. Hopefully some people get their lives destroyed. Nothing is going to happen. Anything that could have caught any of the John’s red handed has long been scrubbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,395 Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Nothing is going to happen. Anything that could have caught any of the John’s red handed has long been scrubbed. These are not the DOJ documents. Those will never get released. These are from the Epstein estate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 19 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump banned Epstein from his resort in 2007. The first police complaint was 2004. Epstein was arrested July 2006. He was charged August 2006. So without checking yes I believe you if you say Trump still didn’t ban JE even after he was arrested. But also Epstein was never a member at Maralago, he & Maxwell were given free rein there, no charge. What’s more, Trump only acted after a member complained that his own daughter had been targeted. Note, Giuffre was staff, she was a cabana girl, not a member’s child. And when Trump did it he told Maxwell, not Epstein. He & Epstein continued to engage & see each other until the end of 2017. Trump & Epstein never had a falling out, except one time over a particular piece of property that Epstein wanted but Trump took from under him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 19 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Also, Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010. I’ve mentioned Clinton & Epstein a couple times today. And you should note Trump was also at that wedding, with his friend Jeffrey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 19 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He also willingly, without a subpoena, gave a statement concerning Epstein. The only one to do so. I’m not sure that being the only one sought after for a statement in a criminal investigation is a good thing. Don’t you think the public should see this statement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,487 Posted 18 hours ago 18 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I’ve mentioned Clinton & Epstein a couple times today. And you should note Trump was also at that wedding, with his friend Jeffrey. Cool. Now what are you gonna do? Keep whining about things you know nothing about? I'm guessing, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 18 hours ago 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Now what are you gonna do? I guess wait. The administration has until next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,487 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I guess wait. The administration has until next week. Oh no. The liberal government will shut down again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 18 hours ago 26 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I’m not sure that being the only one sought after for a statement in a criminal investigation is a good thing. Don’t you think the public should see this statement? I said without being subpoenaed. Everyone else questioned did so under subpoena. Hence the “only one to do so”. Are you stupid or just lazy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 18 hours ago 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Oh no. The liberal government will shut down again? Donald Trump’s liberal government will no doubt stay open. Lots of gaping mawps to feed in the maga access industry, yaknow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 18 hours ago Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I said without being subpoenaed. Everyone else questioned did so under subpoena. Hence the “only one to do so”. Thanks for clarifying. That statement by Trump would hopefully be part of what is produced. No reason it wouldn’t be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,487 Posted 18 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: Donald Trump’s liberal government will no doubt stay open. Lots of gaping mawps to feed in the maga access industry, yaknow. So liberals, who refused to go to work for weeks, were under trump orders. Got it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 18 hours ago 37 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The first police complaint was 2004. Epstein was arrested July 2006. He was charged August 2006. So without checking yes I believe you if you say Trump still didn’t ban JE even after he was arrested. But also Epstein was never a member at Maralago, he & Maxwell were given free rein there, no charge. What’s more, Trump only acted after a member complained that his own daughter had been targeted. Note, Giuffre was staff, she was a cabana girl, not a member’s child. And when Trump did it he told Maxwell, not Epstein. He & Epstein continued to engage & see each other until the end of 2017. Trump & Epstein never had a falling out, except one time over a particular piece of property that Epstein wanted but Trump took from under him. You’re a liar. What a pathetic person you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 18 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump spent thanksgiving with Epstein in 2017. Stop it. They were best friends for years. Another pathetic weakling, resorting to lies. The truth isn’t enough for you freaks. When do you get your nose pierced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re a liar. What a pathetic person you are. Epstein was first reported 2004, agreed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Epstein was first reported 2004, agreed? I thought you wouldn’t be around much, you were so busy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 745 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I thought you wouldn’t be around much, you were so busy? Ah the river’s edge. You’re quite right about that, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,005 Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Ah the river’s edge. You’re quite right about that, thanks. Good. Go do whatever it is you do besides clogging up every thread with your TDS vomit and your virtue signaling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites