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Trump denies Ukraine Tomahawk missiles, urges both sides to ‘stop the war immediately’

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky failed to obtain Tomahawk missiles for strikes on Russia from a meeting with Donald Trump on Friday, with the US president later calling for both sides to cease fighting and accept current battle lines.

Zelensky had traveled to Washington hoping to receive the long-range cruise missiles, which he believes could deliver a decisive blow to the Kremlin’s war economy by enabling targeted strikes on oil and energy facilities deep inside Russia.

However, during opening remarks at a White House working lunch, Trump expressed hopes to resolve the war “without thinking about Tomahawks,” adding that the weapon is one America “needs.”

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

His daddy said no.

You know as well as I do that we can't give Zelensky cruise missiles. Don't be an idiot. It would be a huge mistake militarily 

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30 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You know as well as I do that we can't give Zelensky cruise missiles. Don't be an idiot. It would be a huge mistake militarily 

Taco Trump was going on about doing this. Daddy Vlad straightened him out.

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Taco Trump was going on about doing this. Daddy Vlad straightened him out.

Except your Pedo Hero Biden started the War :banana:

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Except your Pedo Hero Biden started the War :banana:

Russia started the war. Taco Trump doing exactly the same thing Biden did. Sorry bro!

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Russia started the war. Taco Trump doing exactly the same thing Biden did. Sorry bro!

Nope, your Pedo Hero Biden let Putin invaded another Country while he was falling down and shittting himself :banana:

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Nope, your Pedo Hero Biden let Putin invaded another Country while he was falling down and shittting himself :banana:

Seeing as Putin does whatever he wants now it’s a safe bet he would have done this with Taco in charge. Putin literally drops the moment he hangs up the phone with Dementia Don.

Now Taco Don might not have done anything in response and Russia take all of Ukraine but we’ll never know.

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Seeing as Putin does whatever he wants now it’s a safe bet he would have done this with Taco in charge

Except he didn't, he did it while Biden was in office. But you blame Trump 😂

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Except he didn't, he did it while Biden was in office. But you blame Trump 😂

I blame Putin. I laugh at people like you who bought Trump ending it on day one. He trolls you people the hardest often times.

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I blame Putin. I laugh at people like you who bought Trump ending it on day one. He trolls you people the hardest often times.

You sound like a 5 year old. 

BTW, Biden promised to cure cancer. Are you done yet?? 

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52 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Did he end the war in 1 day yet?

It will end now that he said it needs to.

His words hit like atomic bombs.

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1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said:

It will end now that he said it needs to.

His words hit like atomic bombs.

Thank God Biden cured cancer like he promised :doublethumbsup:

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12 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Thank God Biden cured cancer like he promised :doublethumbsup:

It's not going to get any less cured seeing as Trump has cut cancer-research funding while giving Argentina $20 billion, with another $20 billion possibly on the way. I guess he puts cancer victims in the same loser category as Americans killed in war or captured as POWs.

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21 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You sound like a 5 year old. 

BTW, Biden promised to cure cancer. Are you done yet?? 

How’s that Greenland purchase coming along! 

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3 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

It's not going to get any less cured

Either will the Russia Ukraine War 

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2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Either will the Russia Ukraine War 

Either will the Russia Ukraine War?

 

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Reports that Trump and zelensky got into another fight Friday which caused trump to taco on tomahawks.

Trump was pissed zelensky didn't wear a suit.

Reports that Trump and Putin will meet this week in authoritarian state Hungary, the same place Putin promised to never invade Ukraine.

When asked who suggested Budapest, karoline leavitt said "your mom"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-private-blow-up-with-zelensky-revealed/#user-comments

 

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On 10/18/2025 at 8:40 PM, Maximum Overkill said:

This is a smart move. It would only escalate the War 

Exactly. :thumbsup:

 

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16 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Reports that Trump and zelensky got into another fight Friday which caused trump to taco on tomahawks.

Trump was pissed zelensky didn't wear a suit.

Reports that Trump and Putin will meet this week in authoritarian state Hungary, the same place Putin promised to never invade Ukraine.

When asked who suggested Budapest, karoline leavitt said "your mom"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-private-blow-up-with-zelensky-revealed/#user-comments

 

Excellent. :thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Reports that Trump and zelensky got into another fight Friday which caused trump to taco on tomahawks.

Trump bailed on tomahawks after talking to Putin & before talking to Zelensky. In fact Trump said he asked Putin if it would be all tight if he sent Tomahawks to Ukraine, Putin said no that would be a bad idea, so Trump decided not to do it.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Trump bailed on tomahawks after talking to Putin & before talking to Zelensky. In fact Trump said he asked Putin if it would be all tight if he sent Tomahawks to Ukraine, Putin said no that would be a bad idea, so Trump decided not to do it.

Good. :thumbsup:

The rest is just made up crap. 

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I believe that Trump, like Biden before him, is wrong here. Giving these missiles to Ukraine will not escalate the war; it will force Putin to get serious about a peace deal. Right now Putin is not serious; in his phone call with Trump last week he once again demanded full control of the same territory he has failed to seize through arms, just as he did three months ago. 

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I believe that Trump, like Biden before him, is wrong here. Giving these missiles to Ukraine will not escalate the war; it will force Putin to get serious about a peace deal. Right now Putin is not serious; in his phone call with Trump last week he once again demanded full control of the same territory he has failed to seize through arms, just as he did three months ago. 

Putin and Trump do not want a peace deal, they want Ukraine to surrender.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Putin and Trump do not want a peace deal, they want Ukraine to surrender.

A little more complicated for Trump, He wants a peace deal, he wants Putin to win, and he wants the American people and the world to love Donald Trump for achieving it. 

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Per the Washington Post: not only did Trump refuse to give Ukraine the tomahawks, he urged Zelenskyy to give up the entire Donbas region (Putin’s demand) to have peace or face destruction. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/20/zelensky-trump-meeting-europe-russia/

I was going to write “unbelievable” but frankly it’s all too believable. We have Nevile Chamberlain in charge. 

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Per the Washington Post: not only did Trump refuse to give Ukraine the tomahawks, he urged Zelenskyy to give up the entire Donbas region (Putin’s demand) to have peace or face destruction. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/20/zelensky-trump-meeting-europe-russia/

I was going to write “unbelievable” but frankly it’s all too believable. We have Nevile Chamberlain in charge. 

maybe provide a link we don't have to pay for.  Also, who is the source of this report?

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2 minutes ago, shadrap said:

maybe provide a link we don't have to pay for.  Also, who is the source of this report?

Sorry that’s all I have as they just broke the story. But since it’s their leading headline I suspect it will be reported elsewhere shortly. 
 

Per the story, the sources are unnamed diplomats who attended the meeting.  

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It’s important to note that, under pressure from Trump, Zelenskyy has already made a major concession: he is willing to accept peace based on freezing the current military situation. That means, effectively, giving up most of eastern Ukraine permanently to Russia. 

But he will not agree to give up the rest of Donbas, the main engine of Ukraine’s economy and the land Putin really wants and has failed to seize militarily. 

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31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Per the Washington Post: not only did Trump refuse to give Ukraine the tomahawks, he urged Zelenskyy to give up the entire Donbas region (Putin’s demand) to have peace or face destruction. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/20/zelensky-trump-meeting-europe-russia/

I was going to write “unbelievable” but frankly it’s all too believable. We have Nevile Chamberlain in charge. 

This is really unfair to Chamberlain & I’m not being snarky.

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4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is really unfair to Chamberlain & I’m not being snarky.

Actually, at Munich,  Chamberlain simply agreed to give up the Sudetenland without even consulting Czechoslovakia; he only informed them a few hours later. So at this point I’m inclined to disagree with you. Trump hasn’t gone that far (at least not yet.) We are still in the summer of 1938 in terms of the timeline analogy. We haven’t gotten to fall…yet. 

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29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Actually, at Munich,  Chamberlain simply agreed to give up the Sudetenland without even consulting Czechoslovakia; he only informed them a few hours later. So at this point I’m inclined to disagree with you. Trump hasn’t gone that far (at least not yet.) We are still in the summer of 1938 in terms of the timeline analogy. We haven’t gotten to fall…yet. 

Well that’s exactly what Trump did in Afghanistan. He excluded our Afghan allies & NATO. And basically what he did with Israel is he just flat accepted the old Arab deal & put his thumb on Israel to accept it. So I wouldn’t rule out a RU- US agreement occurring separately. That’s Trump’s M.O. to date.

But you’re referring to the comparative effects of a peace agreement. Trump doesn’t have one yet so in that respect a comp isn’t possible right now. I meant in terms of character. Chamberlain deeply cared about the UK, Europe & a permanent peace itself. & he badly felt the pangs of the horrors of WW1. I don’t think Trump is motivated by anything remotely close to that. In terms of character, Vidkun Quisling is a closer comp IMO.

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This has been the only feasible way Trump could have achieved a deal…completely shutoff Ukraine and let Russia destroy them. 

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On 10/18/2025 at 5:43 PM, thegeneral said:

His daddy said no.

Shocking to hear you refer to the trump/zelensky relationship this way.

Upper exelon of your posts for sure. 

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56 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sorry that’s all I have as they just broke the story. But since it’s their leading headline I suspect it will be reported elsewhere shortly. 
 

Per the story, the sources are unnamed diplomats who attended the meeting.  

"Unnamed diplomats" .   LOL

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