NFL Power Rankings Week 9

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Just now, cmh6476 said:

Lamar looked like ass against the Chiefs. 

They were universally thought of as a top 5ish team entering the year.   

They handle the Bills only to choke it away badly.  Score 41 vs the Browns who have a real defense.  And then lose to the Lions and Chiefs where Lamar gets hurt and now they suck.  Lol

Followers of NFL are so wishy washy.  If a team or player has 1 bad game then they suck.  If a mid team happens to beat an elite team now the elite teams window has closed and the mid team is now a contender.  Lol.  Everyone ready to anoint a player or team and just as quickly dismiss them.   Its as if people have never watched a football season before.  

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Chargers after a couple games were going to win that division, Herbert has arrived!   Fast forward a few weeks and they are an afterthought.  Good team but no one cares about them again in a matter of seconds.

Falcons lose 30 to 0 vs panthers.  They suck.  They beat Bills....oh this team has uber talent they are figuring it out!  Lol.  

Its Bills year!  They drop 2 in a row like they have each year for years and window is closed!   Case closed!  Dont bother mentioning they lose 2 in a row each year.  Who cares?  

Its why power rankings are dumb.  Volty has Packers 1st.  But if they were to lose vs Panthers this week then theyd go to what 9th?  Man, teams sure do fluctuate drastically over the course of a week or less.  If Packers lose it means all their good players are no longer good.  Lol.  Never knew a team with the same players can be awesome one week and totally lose their ability the next!  Its as if the league has parity and 22 guys out on a field isnt as predictable as we all act.  

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5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Chargers after a couple games were going to win that division, Herbert has arrived!   Fast forward a few weeks and they are an afterthought.  Good team but no one cares about them again in a matter of seconds.

Falcons lose 30 to 0 vs panthers.  They suck.  They beat Bills....oh this team has uber talent they are figuring it out!  Lol.  

Its Bills year!  They drop 2 in a row like they have each year for years and window is closed!   Case closed!  Dont bother mentioning they lose 2 in a row each year.  Who cares?  

Its why power rankings are dumb.  Volty has Packers 1st.  But if they were to lose vs Panthers this week then theyd go to what 9th?  Man, teams sure do fluctuate drastically over the course of a week or less.  If Packers lose it means all their good players are no longer good.  Lol.  Never knew a team with the same players can be awesome one week and totally lose their ability the next!  Its as if the league has parity and 22 guys out on a field isnt as predictable as we all act.  

I agree with you 100% especially early in the season. ESPN had the Eagles 13th after Week 4 last year. The Eagles had just gotten their doors blown off by Tampa Bay. 

Power rankings are just an overreaction to the last thing that happened. Makes for fun harmless debate though.

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Chargers after a couple games were going to win that division, Herbert has arrived!   Fast forward a few weeks and they are an afterthought.  Good team but no one cares about them again in a matter of seconds.

Falcons lose 30 to 0 vs panthers.  They suck.  They beat Bills....oh this team has uber talent they are figuring it out!  Lol.  

Its Bills year!  They drop 2 in a row like they have each year for years and window is closed!   Case closed!  Dont bother mentioning they lose 2 in a row each year.  Who cares?  

Its why power rankings are dumb.  Volty has Packers 1st.  But if they were to lose vs Panthers this week then theyd go to what 9th?  Man, teams sure do fluctuate drastically over the course of a week or less.  If Packers lose it means all their good players are no longer good.  Lol.  Never knew a team with the same players can be awesome one week and totally lose their ability the next!  Its as if the league has parity and 22 guys out on a field isnt as predictable as we all act.  

The whole of the top 12 is closer than they look. A loss to a team like Carolina would be punished but Carolina isn't the doormat they were last year. Also, the way a team loses. If you outgain the other team 400-220 yards and time of possession is 40-to-20, and the officiating reminds everyone of the Seattle-Pittsburgh Super Bowl, you'll look like the better team. 

But generally speaking, the way I do it anyway, you do have to beat the bad-to-mid teams.

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

I agree with you 100% especially early in the season. ESPN had the Eagles 13th after Week 4 last year. The Eagles had just gotten their doors blown off by Tampa Bay. 

Power rankings are just an overreaction to the last thing that happened. Makes for fun harmless debate though.

I understand most and even voltys has leeway for critical thinking.  But might as well just copy and past standings for power rankings.  

If a team loses to a team they were 7 pt favorites against...doesnt mean they all of a sudden suck or were overrated.  Its called the NFL.  Teams abilities dont just sway hard on a weekly basis.   Its why they play games.  

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Falcons did not make playoffs last year.  They beat Bucs twice and the SB Eagles.  I bet after those wins they torpedoed up the power rankings.  

Raiders beat the Ravens IN Baltimore week 2 last year.  I bet they just shot up the rankings.   They won 4 games.  Womp womp.  

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Oh snap 

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The Chargers here are ahead of the Broncos.  The Broncos have 1 less loss.  The losses are to the team with best record in football by 1 pt.  And Chargers by 3.  Yet Chargers are ahead based on head to head?  A 3 pts win vs a division foe at home is the difference?  Basically a series those 2 teams are supposed to split?  Then why are chargers 3 spots lower than KC.  They have same losses and beat them afterall. 

If it goes by eye test and who you think is just good...then you are saying the seahawks are a better team and you would pick thrm over philly or kc?

All this strength of schedule stuff is for college football.  The round and round you can go wirh dissecting records will create quite a cluster fock that cancels everyone out.  

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50 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I understand most and even voltys has leeway for critical thinking.  But might as well just copy and past standings for power rankings.  

If a team loses to a team they were 7 pt favorites against...doesnt mean they all of a sudden suck or were overrated.  Its called the NFL.  Teams abilities dont just sway hard on a weekly basis.   Its why they play games.  

To Volty’s credit he has the Colts at 9 despite their 7-1 record. I out the Seahawks in the category of “better than average team that has no at a SB,” so I don’t get then at 5. KC is clearly better because they have a chance to be there at the end.

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

To Volty’s credit he has the Colts at 9 despite their 7-1 record. I out the Seahawks in the category of “better than average team that has no at a SB,” so I don’t get then at 5. KC is clearly better because they have a chance to be there at the end.

 Does your pig wear lipstick? 

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14 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Chargers here are ahead of the Broncos.  The Broncos have 1 less loss.  The losses are to the team with best record in football by 1 pt.  And Chargers by 3.  Yet Chargers are ahead based on head to head?  A 3 pts win vs a division foe at home is the difference?  Basically a series those 2 teams are supposed to split?  Then why are chargers 3 spots lower than KC.  They have same losses and beat them afterall. 

If it goes by eye test and who you think is just good...then you are saying the seahawks are a better team and you would pick thrm over philly or kc?

All this strength of schedule stuff is for college football.  The round and round you can go wirh dissecting records will create quite a cluster fock that cancels everyone out.  

Of the top twelve, the Broncos 6-2 record is to me the most fake and is the team most likely to collapse (maybe New England). They are 1-2 against top teams which includes coming from out of nowhere to beat Philly, but otherwise have beat some really bad teams. In the LAC game, LA got 29 first downs that day, Denver 9, and the Chargers outgained the Broncos 376-265. Meanwhile both New York teams could have put them away but credit Denver, they did not allow it to happen.

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23 minutes ago, MDC said:

To Volty’s credit he has the Colts at 9 despite their 7-1 record. I out the Seahawks in the category of “better than average team that has no at a SB,” so I don’t get then at 5. KC is clearly better because they have a chance to be there at the end.

The rankings go from who is most likely to put a beatdown on your ass, to which team is least likely to pull out a win.

For me it's not, "whose got a chance to be there at the end." Indy with their incredibly soft schedule wins that competition in a heartbeat, meaning the AFC bye and #1 seed looks likely to go there. For me, I am just waiting for them to prove it against somebody worth a d@mn. San Diego is good and maybe Denver but not really. If Indy can beat KC I'll show more love, but they don't exactly have many opportunities to play against good teams this year. SF would have been a challenge... alas... 

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15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

 Does your pig wear lipstick? 

Why do you always have to be such an annoying dude?  You have issues.  

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3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why do you always have to be such an annoying dude?  You have issues.  

Yeah. Sounds like a you problem. 

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8 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The rankings go from who is most likely to put a beatdown on your ass, to which team is least likely to pull out a win.

For me it's not, "whose got a chance to be there at the end." Indy with their incredibly soft schedule wins that competition in a heartbeat, meaning the AFC bye and #1 seed looks likely to go there. For me, I am just waiting for them to prove it against somebody worth a d@mn. San Diego is good and maybe Denver but not really. If Indy can beat KC I'll show more love, but they don't exactly have many opportunities to play against good teams this year. SF would have been a challenge... alas... 

Cards are 2-5 and each game has been by 1 score.  How do you quantify that then with whos played who?  They took your 1st 5th and 8th team to the brink.    The #1 and #8 teams with their backup QB.  

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24 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Of the top twelve, the Broncos 6-2 record is to me the most fake and is the team most likely to collapse (maybe New England). They are 1-2 against top teams which includes coming from out of nowhere to beat Philly, but otherwise have beat some really bad teams. In the LAC game, LA got 29 first downs that day, Denver 9, and the Chargers outgained the Broncos 376-265. Meanwhile both New York teams could have put them away but credit Denver, they did not allow it to happen.

They have a 1 pt loss to the team with best record in league and a 3 pt loss on road to a division foe who made playoffs last year.  

They are like a couple plays away from being only undefeated team in league.  

You do realize yards per play is the indicator of efficiency more so than total yards dont you?   Broncos averaged 5.5 to Chargers 4.7 that game.  If you want to do a ton of math on stats and records then lets do it.   Chargers ran almost twice as many plays.  Broncos had 10 penalties to Chargers 3.  Broncos were up 17-13 entering the 4th quarter.   

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19 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The rankings go from who is most likely to put a beatdown on your ass, to which team is least likely to pull out a win.

For me it's not, "who’s got a chance to be there at the end." Indy with their incredibly soft schedule wins that competition in a heartbeat, meaning the AFC bye and #1 seed looks likely to go there. For me, I am just waiting for them to prove it against somebody worth a d@mn. San Diego is good and maybe Denver but not really. If Indy can beat KC I'll show more love, but they don't exactly have many opportunities to play against good teams this year. SF would have been a challenge... alas... 

Indy has the Steelers, Falcons, Chiefs, 49ers and Seahawks on the back half. I bet they lose 3 of those. 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Indy has the Steelers, Falcons, Chiefs, 49ers and Seahawks on the back half. I bet they lose 3 of those. 

Not sure why people are so down on them.  Sure best record in league doesnt mean they are the best.  Could Dimes turn into a pumpkin?  Sure.  But they have the offensive player of the league.  Solid solid weapons.  And a good defense.  Theyve played a light schedule but many times absolutely handle the teams while teams like the Packers lose to the Browns and are in dog fights with Dallas and Arizona.  But since Packers have a win over the Lions all thr way back in week 1...then they are way better.  Hell #1.  

Point is going around in circles debating strength of schedule or which teams won close games to inferior teams is stupid.   Its busy work.   Its pro football games over the course of 2 months.  Its not a spreadsheet.  

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18 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Cards are 2-5 and each game has been by 1 score.  How do you quantify that then with whos played who?  They took your 1st 5th and 8th team to the brink.    The #1 and #8 teams with their backup QB.  

Maybe Cards deserve better, their division is hell. 

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To me all this non scientific contradictory formula is nonsense.  Any exercise like this should just be who you think is best in order.  Im a Packers and no one here including myself would say they are the best team.  Not a soul.  

Other than beating a divisional opponent at home back in week focking 1....their best wins are over the 16th and 17th ranked team on here.  With a tie vs the 22nd ranked team.  A loss to the Browns (26th) and dog fights with AZ (27th) Cincy (31st)  What makes their resume #1 worthy when no one here would say they are the best without some formula?  

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12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Not sure why people are so down on them. 

Danny Dimes. He’s this year’s Sam Darnold and the story will end the same way.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Danny Dimes. He’s this year’s Sam Darnold and the story will end the same way.

Oh I get that.  Yet Sam Darnold himself is ranked 5th.   With 1 more loss.  

You cant make it up.  

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12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Oh I get that.  Yet Sam Darnold himself is ranked 5th.   With 1 more loss.  

You cant make it up.  

I don’t believe in the Seahawks either.  

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2 hours ago, MDC said:

I don’t believe in the Seahawks either.  

mdpee doesn't believe in the seahawks. 

 

like anyone cares. 

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7 hours ago, MDC said:

Danny Dimes. He’s this year’s Sam Darnold and the story will end the same way.

This is 100% fact. 

I think he's better than Darnold, but not by much