jhud423 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Is he worth a buy low? I'm thinking about trying to package MJD in a deal to get him, especially since MJD is out indefinitely. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 25, 2012 Is he worth a buy low? I'm thinking about trying to package MJD in a deal to get him, especially since MJD is out indefinitely. Thoughts? McFadden has arguably the best schedule in the league going forward. I have him in every league I'm in and wouldn't trade him for right now for anything short of the upper tier of RB's thus far this season. Probably someone along the lines of Foster, Rice, Peterson, McCoy, Richardson, Charles,etc. Even then I'd have to consider their schedule as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ditka vs. ______ 0 Posted October 25, 2012 1 million dollars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted October 25, 2012 After this weekend his value will skyrocket!..........or plummet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 25, 2012 After this weekend his value will skyrocket!..........or plummet! Sadly, i think this is true. It's do or die time now for the people that drafted him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 25, 2012 FYI, the ESPN Fantasy Underground podcast leads off by going in depth on McFadden. I haven't listened to it yet but figured I'd share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 25, 2012 FYI, the ESPN Fantasy Underground podcast leads off by going in depth on McFadden. I haven't listened to it yet but figured I'd share. yeah, you might not want to listen to that if you're a mcfadden owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffexpert 4 Posted October 25, 2012 yeah, you might not want to listen to that if you're a mcfadden owner can you sum it up - cliffnotes style?? thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted October 25, 2012 FYI, the ESPN Fantasy Underground podcast leads off by going in depth on McFadden. I haven't listened to it yet but figured I'd share. link Basically, similarly to CJ2K the line stinks; it's not McFadden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 25, 2012 can you sum it up - cliffnotes style?? thanks. Basically the o line is terrible, no one is getting to the second level so all the linebackers are roaming free which is why you're not seeing any big gains. They've actually started throwing in more power running plays since the bye. Said they don't see McFadden as being right there on the edge of blowing up like they did Chris Johnson (which they did talk about the week before he blew up). Would rather have McGahee rest of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 25, 2012 Also, that Fantasy Underground is the best fantasy podcast going IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gouda-Buddha 0 Posted October 25, 2012 Was about to trade Ridley for him... Now I'm pondering... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted October 25, 2012 link Basically, similarly to CJ2K the line stinks; it's not McFadden. Chris Johnson is running just fine. And McFadden is having trouble behind his OL right now but Goodson sure isn't when he gets in the game. Maybe it's McFadden...maybe he needs to be more patient. Maybe the ZBS isn't a good fit for him. FWIW - When it comes to fantasy I ignore anything ESPN says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 25, 2012 Was about to trade Ridley for him... Now I'm pondering... I have both and would trade Ridley for him easily. I'm very worried about Ridley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotekniQues 0 Posted October 25, 2012 I'm going to try to trade for DMC right now most likely. Depends on where you strengths and weaknesses are. I'm WR heavy, RB weak. If I can get a deal on DMC who has some upside and good playoff week matchups, may be worth it. If you don't have enough depth at one position, the risk is much higher. It seems the Raiders are committed to DMC in the run game and starting to try things to get him yards. Can their personnel pull any of it off in enough weeks so he gets you some points? maybe. Coin flip at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 25, 2012 McFadden has arguably the best schedule in the league going forward. I have him in every league I'm in and wouldn't trade him for right now for anything short of the upper tier of RB's thus far this season. Probably someone along the lines of Foster, Rice, Peterson, McCoy, Richardson, Charles,etc. Even then I'd have to consider their schedule as well. Good luck getting any of those for him right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted October 25, 2012 Good luck getting any of those for him right now. No chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted October 25, 2012 Chris Johnson is running just fine. And McFadden is having trouble behind his OL right now but Goodson sure isn't when he gets in the game. Maybe it's McFadden...maybe he needs to be more patient. Maybe the ZBS isn't a good fit for him. FWIW - When it comes to fantasy I ignore anything ESPN says. I have the same thoughts regarding Goodson. The game this weekend is tremendous for DMC from a fantasy perspective. If he dud's all of his owners are going to freak out and start to full on panic. But if he goes off it could be a get well game. I've been offered numerous trades for DMC this week but I refuse to sell. I'd rather take my chances and hope he gets it going this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotekniQues 0 Posted October 25, 2012 McFadden has arguably the best schedule in the league going forward. I have him in every league I'm in and wouldn't trade him for right now for anything short of the upper tier of RB's thus far this season. Probably someone along the lines of Foster, Rice, Peterson, McCoy, Richardson, Charles,etc. Even then I'd have to consider their schedule as well. Foster, Rice or Peterson for DMC? are you smoking something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted October 26, 2012 Foster, Rice or Peterson for DMC? are you smoking something? this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 26, 2012 I have the same thoughts regarding Goodson. The game this weekend is tremendous for DMC from a fantasy perspective. If he dud's all of his owners are going to freak out and start to full on panic. But if he goes off it could be a get well game. I've been offered numerous trades for DMC this week but I refuse to sell. I'd rather take my chances and hope he gets it going this week. I think that's all you can hope for. But if he doesn't put up solid numbers I'd say it's time to get rid of him and have him be someone else's problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redzonehog 14 Posted October 26, 2012 McFadden has arguably the best schedule in the league going forward. I have him in every league I'm in and wouldn't trade him for right now for anything short of the upper tier of RB's thus far this season. Probably someone along the lines of Foster, Rice, Peterson, McCoy, Richardson, Charles,etc. Even then I'd have to consider their schedule as well. You serious, kid? Quit dreaming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 26, 2012 Good luck getting any of those for him right now. No chance. Foster, Rice or Peterson for DMC? are you smoking something? this You serious, kid? Quit dreaming... Yall need to read better. Nowhere does he say he thinks he could get those guys for McFadden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted October 26, 2012 Yall need to read better. Nowhere does he say he thinks he could get those guys for McFadden. Umm, this is a thread about DMC' s worth.... He said who he would have to have in return.. What is your point again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 26, 2012 Umm, this is a thread about DMC' s worth.... He said who he would have to have in return.. What is your point again? He's saying that's how high HE is on him. Not that he thinks he could get those players in return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 26, 2012 Umm, this is a thread about DMC' s worth.... He said who he would have to have in return.. What is your point again? His point is invalid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted October 26, 2012 He's saying that's how high HE is on him. Not that he thinks he could get those players in return. "I have him in every league I'm in and wouldn't trade him for right now for anything short of the upper tier of RB's thus far this season. Probably someone along the lines of Foster, Rice, Peterson, McCoy, Richardson, Charles,etc" right now trade something along the lines of.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiotekniQues 0 Posted October 26, 2012 Yall need to read better. Nowhere does he say he thinks he could get those guys for McFadden. so basically you and him are hitting the same pipe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted October 26, 2012 No chance. I wouldn't trade dmc for Trent. DMC is a product of terrible coaching, bad qb play and that awful zone rushing scheme. Those excuses aside, he is still disappointing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted October 26, 2012 As a DMC owner - this is his "sh!t or get off the pot" game. I've watched the Raiders a lot this year & it's been extremely frustrating. No holes, and guys on D in the backfield on one step. They may have the worst O line in the league. Another thing is they telegraph the play & hole every damn time....and where has he been in the passing game? I think he caught 11 the first game but not much after...? WTF? He has had about 3-4 carries of 20+ that were ALL called back for holding. If you factor those runs in his #s wouldn't be as bad, but still a concern. He's my RB 2 but I'm still expecting more than what's been given. Hopefully this is his week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megatron's mom 6 Posted October 26, 2012 He's running scared now. ( see Fred Taylor) he was a dynamic runner but couldn't stay healthy. DMC is now playing not to get hurt as well. It's become quite obvious. Can you blame him? He gets hurt like every 35 carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zac3434 5 Posted October 26, 2012 I think its got a lot more to do with the zone blocking they are trying to install there, and the fact that noone knows wtf they are doing in it yet. In depth write up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rise&demise 0 Posted October 26, 2012 I just moved McFadden for Ridley and Andre Johnson. I wasn't actively shopping him but I thought the offer was more than fair. I also have him on two other teams so it made sense to diversify a bit. At 2-5, I had to shake things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trich20 0 Posted October 26, 2012 I tried getting him and Celek for Richardson/Hardesty, Rivers and DHB and the mcfadden owner rejected. His schedule is too good to trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted October 26, 2012 As a DMC owner - this is his "sh!t or get off the pot" game. I've watched the Raiders a lot this year & it's been extremely frustrating. No holes, and guys on D in the backfield on one step. They may have the worst O line in the league. Another thing is they telegraph the play & hole every damn time....and where has he been in the passing game? I think he caught 11 the first game but not much after...? WTF? He has had about 3-4 carries of 20+ that were ALL called back for holding. If you factor those runs in his #s wouldn't be as bad, but still a concern. He's my RB 2 but I'm still expecting more than what's been given. Hopefully this is his week. They're utilizing Goodson in the passing game, also a lot on 3rd and long draws which would be some nice junk yards for Dmac. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 26, 2012 Good luck getting any of those for him right now. Oh, I know I'm not getting them, that's sort of the point. The Raiders beat my sorry ass Steelers in Wk3 by riding McFadden. They've eased off since then on him, but now sitting at 2-4 and only 1 game out of first place now, and with the softest schedule in the league remaining, now is the time to ride your horses. His value right now is too low to get any real return on him, but his ceiling is potentially too high to take a lesser or equal back in exchange for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ppierce 2 Posted October 26, 2012 just traded him and lance moore for mccoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted October 26, 2012 just traded him and lance moore for mccoy. Very fair trade. Looks like a preference trade. A couple guys sick of what they got and thinking the grass may be greener on the other side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 26, 2012 Oh, I know I'm not getting them, that's sort of the point. The Raiders beat my sorry ass Steelers in Wk3 by riding McFadden. They've eased off since then on him, but now sitting at 2-4 and only 1 game out of first place now, and with the softest schedule in the league remaining, now is the time to ride your horses. His value right now is too low to get any real return on him, but his ceiling is potentially too high to take a lesser or equal back in exchange for him. I agree. I wouldnt trade him right now. He has a good match up this week so I would ride out this week. He either puts up points or gets shut down in which case I think it would be time to trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted October 26, 2012 I agree. I wouldnt trade him right now. He has a good match up this week so I would ride out this week. He either puts up points or gets shut down in which case I think it would be time to trade I think in most cases he is definitely a hold. And if he doesn't do well in KC he's still a hold. He's still healthy, still a freak athlete, why would you draw a line in the sand at week 8 if his value drops even lower? As most are saying, elite talents like Chris Johnson and McFadden are worth waiting for instead of giving them up for ¢.50 on the $1.00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
