bno70_1 0 Posted December 27, 2006 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted December 27, 2006 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! This whole concept was retarded enough...so let's create a 2nd to further fish?!? Note: Da retardation! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,346 Posted December 27, 2006 Trust me..He'll catch a few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bno70_1 0 Posted September 13, 2007 There's been some questions lately, so I figured brining back this Thesis would help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,598 Posted September 13, 2007 I prefer to start the team thats going to score the most FF points, but maybe thats just me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mangatang 0 Posted September 13, 2007 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! Uh... What the hell are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rerun 0 Posted September 13, 2007 How do TO's points go from 18 to 0? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest _my_2_cents_ Posted September 13, 2007 You know, I often mock cancel-out theorists, but I am starting TJ Housh this week (because he's my best WR) and my opponent happens to have Palmer. Not going to say it's a cancel out, but in a PPR, 6 Pt RecTD/4 Pt PaTD league with .1/1 RecYd and .1/2.5 PaYd, it sure sould seem like if my opponent's QB throws TJ 7 receptions for 87 yds and a TD it works out better for me. It's noce cancellation, but it definately puts me in an advantage that her QB helps me more than her if Palmer throws to Housh. With those stats, I get 7+8.7+6 = 21.7 points, where she gets 3.5+4 = 7.5 points. Of course Palmer will throw to other receivers and may even get a couple TDs to others, but still....when scoring is imbalanced in favor of the WR, it seems that you can "cancel" a little bit of your opponent's production. Not to the extent to call it "cancel out theory" but there's no question I benefit more from a big Palmer day than she does, IF my WR gets the receptions. That said, I am fully aware that the only thing that matters is how my QB performs against her QB, how my WRs perform compared to her WRs, how my RBs perform compared to her RBs, etc, etc, etc. Cancellation doesn't exist. But it will for that game, isolated in a vacuum. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 0 Posted September 13, 2007 How do TO's points go from 18 to 0? They were "cancelled out". Pay attention please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyFargo 0 Posted September 13, 2007 How do TO's points go from 18 to 0? Team B starts the stud WR's QB ensuring that for every score the WR makes the QB gets credit too. So, you in effect are cancelling out that players points...the end result was a net gain of points for team B. It's a strategy you can only emply once or twice a year, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted September 13, 2007 Any Strategy that involves starting Romo over Manning is not a very good one. Unless of course you were talking about Eli. Then It was stupid to play him over Romo in the first place. Either way the example is flawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted September 13, 2007 Team B starts the stud WR's QB ensuring that for every score the WR makes the QB gets credit too. So, you in effect are cancelling out that players points...the end result was a net gain of points for team B. It's a strategy you can only emply once or twice a year, really. and only if the player you bring in to cancel out another is the highest FF scorer on the week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mangatang 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Team B starts the stud WR's QB ensuring that for every score the WR makes the QB gets credit too. So, you in effect are cancelling out that players points...the end result was a net gain of points for team B. It's a strategy you can only emply once or twice a year, really. We get 1 pt / 20 yards passing and 3 pts for passing TD's. So, the QB only cancels out half the WR production. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,551 Posted September 13, 2007 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! You make no sense. I've tried to read you example about 3 times and it makes no sense. You are dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius 0 Posted September 13, 2007 I must admit - the example is missing all sorts of pertinent information. I have this hotdog weiner theory.... Team A wieners yes + bun = baseball Team B relish - mustard +ketchup = condiments How can you not eat hotdogs at ballgames !? What, you don't get it? pay attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Team B starts the stud WR's QB ensuring that for every score the WR makes the QB gets credit too. So, you in effect are cancelling out that players points...the end result was a net gain of points for team B. It's a strategy you can only emply once or twice a year, really. "Fresh FISH on the line, aint nothing like that sh!t!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted September 13, 2007 A year later, and you still haven't learned a thing. You're still the same nonsense believing and spewing dolt you were last year. Congratulations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted September 13, 2007 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! So... are you saying I should start Stephen Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenjammin 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Any Strategy that involves starting Romo over Manning is not a very good one. Unless of course you were talking about Eli. Then It was stupid to play him over Romo in the first place. Either way the example is flawed. Didn't Romo outscore Manning last Week? If you looked at the matchups and thought Romo was going to score more points so you started him and he does outscore Manning I don't see how that strategy could be flawed. Now I would've started Manning against the Saints over Romo but starting the player you thought would score the most points cannot be flawed if he actually does score the most points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bno70_1 0 Posted September 13, 2007 A year later, and you still haven't learned a thing. You're still the same nonsense believing and spewing dolt you were last year. Congratulations! Isn't there some reckage somewhere you should be pulling survivors out of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenjammin 0 Posted September 13, 2007 That said, I am fully aware that the only thing that matters is how my QB performs against her QB, how my WRs perform compared to her WRs, how my RBs perform compared to her RBs, etc, etc, etc. Cancellation doesn't exist. But it will for that game, isolated in a vacuum. lol It doesn't matter how my QB performs against her QB, or how my RB's perform against her RB's etc. . All that matters is that my total points are more than hers. Unless you play in some kind of positional match play league that I haven't heard about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted September 13, 2007 Didn't Romo outscore Manning last Week? If you looked at the matchups and thought Romo was going to score more points so you started him and he does outscore Manning I don't see how that strategy could be flawed. Now I would've started Manning against the Saints over Romo but starting the player you thought would score the most points cannot be flawed if he actually does score the most points. Uh, did anyone project Romo to score more than Peyton? No! So starting Romo over Peyton would have been a bad strategy. It might have worked out this time, but it is a bad strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rerun 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Team B starts the stud WR's QB ensuring that for every score the WR makes the QB gets credit too. So, you in effect are cancelling out that players points...the end result was a net gain of points for team B. It's a strategy you can only emply once or twice a year, really. If TO has 18 and he starts Romo and he has 9 how does that cancel TO out? Bad math in the example. But anyway WR's in standard leagues get 6 for a TD and QB's 4 for throwing one. And WRs 1 point for every 10 yards and QB's 1 point for every 25 yards. I don't think it adds up to cancelling him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest _my_2_cents_ Posted September 13, 2007 It doesn't matter how my QB performs against her QB, or how my RB's perform against her RB's etc. . All that matters is that my total points are more than hers. Unless you play in some kind of positional match play league that I haven't heard about I was just running with it. What, the OP is the only one allowed to use fuzzy logic? Nice double standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiantsRule 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Isn't there some reckage somewhere you should be pulling survivors out of? Wrong poster dumbass! But keep believing in fairy tales. You must be really excited that you get to spend an entire night in the pumpkin patch soon waiting for the Great Pumpkin to arrive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bno70_1 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Wrong poster dumbass! But keep believing in fairy tales. You must be really excited that you get to spend an entire night in the pumpkin patch soon waiting for the Great Pumpkin to arrive. I'm not sure, but I think the OP is making fun of the cancel out theory. I don't know for certain though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enis_44 0 Posted December 23, 2009 Bumped for championship edition. How can you go wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dehaven123 31 Posted December 23, 2009 You have to check this out! without cancelling Team A TO - 18 points LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 54 points Team B Manning - 10 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 40 points result, Team B loses! WITH da cancel Team A TO - 0 points !!!!! (notice the cancel) !! LT - 30 points Gonzo - 6 points etc total: 36 points Team B Romo - 9 points LJ - 20 points Gates - 10 points etc total: 39 points result, even by scoring less points, team B NOW wins!!!! how can you not cancel!?!?! also, I am doing some calculations on "double the points" and "the hook up" ! I'm waiting on your "double the points" and "the hook up" calc's. I'm ready to ammend my "retarded math principles book". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
