Sean Mooney

I said yesterday that it looks from the video and everything the first shot is from him at the front driver quarter panel shooting back towards the inside of the car through the windshield. But I did acknowledge she brushed him with the car

A cell phone video that shows she brushed his hip (which I said yesterday) and then he fired three rounds- seemingly from the side of the car is the clincher. God some of you are dumb. What drug cocktail do they make MAGA mooks take before they lobotomize them?

Okay...yes it was the latter of the two options posited by you.

Appreciate the response. As to the bolded- I'm not hoping anything. I'm genuinely wondering if perhaps Vance being so definitive and some of these pronouncements that he and DHS made without facts might end up biting them at some point.

I would agree that it most likely leads to a prosecutor losing.

TBF- I'd imagine in a court case a lawyer would show the video and then show isolated still frames..So ultimately it will get to still frames

SPOILER: He doesn't...give him about 2 hours and he'll pretend he never said it

@Engorgeous George....question for you as IIRC you are a lawyer/have a law background. So hypothetically say this will go to a trial of some kind (I doubt it will but who knows)....outside of any of the previous legal issues- how does what JD Vance said in his press conference yesterday complicate matters? As a recap he basically said the ICE agent had been hit and drug by a car before requiring 33 stitches so "You think maybe he’s a little bit sensitive about somebody ramming him with an automobile?" Wouldn't that just open another door for a prosecutor to attack the ICE agent and the whole process? Because now you are going to call into question the process of putting officers back into the field and allow criticism of timelines of reactions to trauma and all that. So I guess- do you think by opening up more doors (potentially) does it ultimately weaken or strengthen any case that can be brought?

I'm not sure if it is though. It's just typical discussion along party lines. They don't want to acknowledge that Trump or his team may have had anything to do with this. It only has to be the woman in the car's fault. And- most of the people in the middle or on the left have acknowledged that the woman was attempting to block traffic (even if she was doing a piss poor job of it). And most have given her some portion of blame in this. But outside of that there are avenues to criticize the response of the ICE team but they won't do that because in their mind it reflects back on Trump and they can't have even a small semblance of negative towards Trump. Hell even the person who pretends to have been a cop at one point can't even turn off the Trump stuff to have a real conversation when people were asking about the procedure of how the cop would approach the car from behind, and then walk in front of it and everything....because god forbid maybe the person wasn't trained the right way.

HT knows that...but his adult diaper rash is acting up and he has to try and get his stupid posts for the day in quick.

Quick someone- we need more whatabouts......

I also pray the Grim Reaper finishes the job next time

Yeah I plan on updating where we are right now today....Needless to say- Manning is no longer the #1 guy in the QB room.

Remember Horseman is the guy who said if someone knocks on your door- even a solicitor- you have to open your door. There's no other choice. So even when he is sitting by himself somewhere he isn't the smartest person in the room.

I pray someone deactivates MO's "Start New Topic" button. As for the ICE people- hopefully they stop trying to stand in front of a car looking to drive away.