Moussaoui verdict to be announced

[torridjoe 48]

In your world, wouldn't it have been more fitting to just free the man and let him go back home? After all, isn't he just a freedom fighter responding to US global tyranny and economic oppression.

 

You need to wipe the glass on the window into my world. Or stop making crap up, one of the two.

[Mark Buffington 3]

If he really said that, he was probably making a point that "bravery" is a relative term. And I'd agree. Relative to many Muslims, the 9-11 attackers were brave. Relative to Americans, they were insane terrorists.

so anyone who commits murder - suicide is brave? Okay, got it.

[torridjoe 48]

torrid think the pilots of the planes were brave. I wonder if he thinks Moussaoui is brave too even though he was a failure.

 

Moussaoui was a wannabe terrorist. He's a punk.

 

If he really said that, he was probably making a point that "bravery" is a relative term. And I'd agree. Relative to many Muslims, the 9-11 attackers were brave. Relative to Americans, they were insane terrorists.

 

No, that wasn't it. Doing something audacious like taking over a commercial jet and flying it into a building knowing you'll be killed...that's brave. It's also crazy, demonic and brutal. But it takes guts.

[kpbuckeye 3]

If he really said that, he was probably making a point that "bravery" is a relative term. And I'd agree. Relative to many Muslims, the 9-11 attackers were brave. Relative to Americans, they were insane terrorists.

 

 

there is nothing brave about killing innocent people. period. they were not insane terrorists, they were puzzays who didn't have the gonads to go after the people they really wanted to kill, namely US government, so they chose the cowards way.

[RLLD 4,230]

{RodneyKing} Why cant we all jus get along??{/RodneyKing}

[GobbleDog 996]

Moussaoui was a wannabe terrorist. He's a punk.

No, that wasn't it. Doing something audacious like taking over a commercial jet and flying it into a building knowing you'll be killed...that's brave. It's also crazy, demonic and brutal. But it takes guts.

 

It may fit the strict definition of brave. But when it's used, people interpret it to have more of a relative meaning. Brave = good for our side.

 

Knowing that, I wouldn't use the term brave to describe the 9-11 attackers, even if it does fit the strict definition because I wouldn't want to confuse people about which side I'm on. So maybe you're a little braver than me on that part.

 

word games... ugh.

[NewbieJr 541]

It may fit the strict definition of brave. But when it's used, people interpret it to have more of a relative meaning. Brave = good for our side.

 

Knowing that, I wouldn't use the term brave to describe the 9-11 attackers, even if it does fit the strict definition because I wouldn't want to confuse people about which side I'm on. So maybe you're a little braver than me on that part.

 

word games... ugh.

I also consider it brave when Johnny Knoxville rides in a grocery cart and lets it slam into a wall.

It doesn't make him any less of a moron, though.

 

Brave does not always= compliment.

[torridjoe 48]

It may fit the strict definition of brave. But when it's used, people interpret it to have more of a relative meaning. Brave = good for our side.

 

Knowing that, I wouldn't use the term brave to describe the 9-11 attackers, even if it does fit the strict definition because I wouldn't want to confuse people about which side I'm on. So maybe you're a little braver than me on that part.

 

word games... ugh.

 

I'm sorry that people interpret it that way, even AFTER I fully explain what is meant. (Just like the last dozen times this came up). I cannot control how others think.

[GobbleDog 996]

I'm sorry that people interpret it that way, even AFTER I fully explain what is meant. (Just like the last dozen times this came up). I cannot control how others think.

 

Ok, now you're just trying to be difficult.

[RLLD 4,230]

I decided that brave means fast, since it suits my argument with the guy next to me.....today....

[Rude Rick 0]

I'm sorry that people interpret it that way, even AFTER I fully explain what is meant. (Just like the last dozen times this came up). I cannot control how others think.

[TyCobb 0]

You need to wipe the glass on the window into my world. Or stop making crap up, one of the two.

 

I take it you aren't comfortable answering the questions. I understand.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

You need to wipe the glass on the window into my world.

 

When did they start puttiing glass windows in rubber rooms?

[torridjoe 48]

I take it you aren't comfortable answering the questions. I understand.

 

what questions? You just made a couple of wildly erroneous statements, based on what I cannot fathom.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

what questions? You just made a couple of wildly erroneous statements, based on what I cannot fathom.

 

 

...and the wheels on Turbin go round and round....round and round.............

[TyCobb 0]

what questions?

 

Any of the four I asked, I suppose.

[torridjoe 48]

Any of the four I asked, I suppose.

 

In your world, wouldn't it have been more fitting to just free the man and let him go back home? After all, isn't he just a freedom fighter responding to US global tyranny and economic oppression.

 

I count 2, neither of which are even loosely based on anything I've ever said.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

And yet you still refuse to answer the 2 questions you agree he asked you.

[TyCobb 0]

I count 2

 

Here, let me help.

 

In your world, wouldn't it have been more fitting to just free the man and let him go back home?

 

After all, isn't he just a freedom fighter responding to US global tyranny and economic oppression.

 

Bump for Torridjoe. Am I right?

 

Wouldn't full release, if not outright praise, be consistent with your position on Moussaoui?

 

I recommend #3. It's the easiest.

[TyCobb 0]

Torrid?

[Rude Rick 0]

Torrid?

[TyCobb 0]

 

[Rude Rick 0]

 

Who do you think you are , harrassing Torrid?

[TyCobb 0]

Who do you think you are , harrassing Torrid?

 

 

I'm just hoping for a response rather than a blowoff. I truly believe my comments are accurate to his view. I think he denies it, but I'm not sure. I'm just asking for him to clarify.

[ROBOKOP 0]

I just need to make a couple points for the ignorant.

 

1. You can possibly make a point that a terrorist crashing into a military base is brave, but the murdering of countless civilians including many children is a horrible act in any country and any religion. These are extremists, not muslims.

 

2. In the big picture I think a life sentence is better. This guy believes he will go to paradise when he dies. This guy wants to be a martyr. We denied him from that and now he will be forced to live a living hell. I am a big advocate of the death penalty, but in this case, death is what he desires.

 

3. Anyone that supports or makes excuses for any terrorist is a complete moron and would get his head taken off if he came within ten feet of a patriot like me who has lost because of cowards that can only fight using car bombs and explosive traps.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I'm also a big supporter of the death penalty, but knowing he wanted to be a martyr, and knowing he will spend 23 hrs a day in a 7' x 9' cell makes me chuckle at the misery that will be the rest of his life.

 

If I could add one thing to his sentence it would be that the 1 hour a day he gets outside his cell is spent being gang-raped in a puddle of pig blood.

[Rude Rick 0]

I'm also a big supporter of the death penalty, but knowing he wanted to be a martyr, and knowing he will spend 23 hrs a day in a 7' x 9' cell makes me chuckle at the misery that will be the rest of his life.

 

I'm also happy with the verdict but not in a vengeance way like you.

 

"Humanity implores us to be better than who we condemn." -D. Kucinich

[torridjoe 48]

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 3 2006, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

In your world, wouldn't it have been more fitting to just free the man and let him go back home?

 

In my world there is justice for crime. He's guilty of conspiracy to commit mass murder. He deserves justice. So the answer is no. I have no idea why you'd think it was otherwise.

 

 

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 3 2006, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After all, isn't he just a freedom fighter responding to US global tyranny and economic oppression.

 

He's not Iraqi, for one thing--but no.

 

 

 

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 4 2006, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Bump for Torridjoe. Am I right?

No.

 

 

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 4 2006, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wouldn't full release, if not outright praise, be consistent with your position on Moussaoui?

See #1. What stupid questions these were.

[D_House 0]

I'm also a big supporter of the death penalty, but knowing he wanted to be a martyr, and knowing he will spend 23 hrs a day in a 7' x 9' cell makes me chuckle at the misery that will be the rest of his life.

 

If I could add one thing to his sentence it would be that the 1 hour a day he gets outside his cell is spent being gang-raped in a puddle of pig blood.

[TyCobb 0]

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 3 2006, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

In your world, wouldn't it have been more fitting to just free the man and let him go back home?

 

In my world there is justice for crime. He's guilty of conspiracy to commit mass murder. He deserves justice. So the answer is no. I have no idea why you'd think it was otherwise.

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 3 2006, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

After all, isn't he just a freedom fighter responding to US global tyranny and economic oppression.

 

He's not Iraqi, for one thing--but no.

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 4 2006, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Bump for Torridjoe. Am I right?

No.

QUOTE(TyCobb @ May 4 2006, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wouldn't full release, if not outright praise, be consistent with your position on Moussaoui?

See #1. What stupid questions these were.

 

I think we could probably have a pretty good debate about whether this is crime per se, or whether it is an act of war. But that may be quibbling over symantics at this point with Moussaoui.

 

Thanks for the clarification. My assumptions were unfounded, it appears. Glad to hear it.

[kilroy69 1,247]

If this is not a crime worthy of death then we just need to get rid of the death penalty.

[torridjoe 48]

If this is not a crime worthy of death then we just need to get rid of the death penalty.

 

I agree. Let's get rid of it. It doesn't work, and doesn't make rational sense.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

It doesn't work

 

It's 100% effective. Not one person executed has committed another heinous crime.

 

ETA: You are still dodging the questons posed to you. What a shocker.