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Who is the most valuable Running Back Backup?

Of these Running Backs...  

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  1. 1. Who will be the most valuable running back this season?

    • Mewelde Moore
      1
    • Cedric Houston
      2
    • Chris Perry
      10
    • Marion Barber
      13
    • Laurence Maroney
      11
    • DeAngelo Williams
      22
    • LenDale White
      14
    • Mike Anderson
      9
    • Najah Davenport
      3
    • Duce Staley
      2


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I tried to choose guys in this poll who are backing up a starting RB. That is only my opinion and certainly open to debate. Some of the more closely contested RBBC's (Jones/ Benson, McAllister/Bush, Rhodes/Addai, Dayne/Bell, Barlow/Gore, etc.) are not included because each guy is expected to see a fair share of the workload. Plus, I can only include 10 choices in this poll. If you see a glaring omission, feel free to chime in. :cheers:

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Is the reason that Joseph Addai is missing from the list because it's assumed he's the starter?

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My only problem here is that Barber is already in a borderline platoon with JJ. Also who is the backup in Jax? Greg Jones?

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If you are going to use the #4 pick to get Portis, Betts is very valuable to you, he is the for sure #1 guy if Portis goes down, plus he does have some skill.

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I am saying Maurice Morris. If something were to happen to Alexander, he would be a more than adaquate starter. I voted for Barber tho...

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marion barber went 1.2 in a homer league im in. we gave them a redo and they didnt take it. :argue:

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1. DeAngeleo Williams - I don't believe D. Foster can stay healthy. Williams will start a few games.

2. Marion Barber - Just say no to JJ.

3. Brandon Jacobs - How many more years of Tiki? Seriously. I think Jacobs gets more carries and a LOT more TDs this year.

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Is the reason that Joseph Addai is missing from the list because it's assumed he's the starter?

I assumed him and Rhodes would split the carries fairly equally over the course of the season. Please read the post too. :doublethumbsup:

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1. DeAngeleo Williams - I don't believe D. Foster can stay healthy. Williams will start a few games.

2. Marion Barber - Just say no to JJ.

3. Brandon Jacobs - How many more years of Tiki? Seriously. I think Jacobs gets more carries and a LOT more TDs this year.

 

Amen on points 1 and 2.

 

I couldn't disagree more on Brandon Jacobs tho. The guy was horrendous last season, even as a goaline back he was flat-out bad. I know people like to bust on Tiki's age and say he is going to be worn down, but I don't buy it. Tiki has 1890 career carries. Edge has 2188 career carries and a major knee injury. Where is the concern for Edge?

 

Entering the 2004 season, Curtis Martin was 31 and had recorded 3000 career carries. That year, Martin ran for 1600 yards and 12 TDs.

 

 

Entering the 2006 season, Tiki will be 31 and has approx 1000 less carries then Martin had at the same age.

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Amen on points 1 and 2.

 

I couldn't disagree more on Brandon Jacobs tho. The guy was horrendous last season, even as a goaline back he was flat-out bad. I know people like to bust on Tiki's age and say he is going to be worn down, but I don't buy it. Tiki has 1890 career carries. Edge has 2188 career carries and a major knee injury. Where is the concern for Edge?

 

Entering the 2004 season, Curtis Martin was 31 and had recorded 3000 career carries. That year, Martin ran for 1600 yards and 12 TDs.

Entering the 2006 season, Tiki will be 31 and has approx 1000 less carries then Martin had at the same age.

Alright alright. I'll take it.

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If we can agree LJ, Alexander and LT are the first three backs to go then it would stand to reason their backups would be the most valuable of all.

 

L. Johnson - Not sure at this point who that will be.........if I had to guess, probably Q. Griffin.

L. Thomlison - M. Turner

S. Alexander - M. Morris

 

If you spend your first, second or third overall pick on one of these guys it would be dumb to not have their backup on your team.

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I assumed him and Rhodes would split the carries fairly equally over the course of the season. Please read the post too. :blink:

Oops, sorry. I see it now. I must have just read the options.

 

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CHRIS PERRY anyone ? 1st round pick shoved to the side thanks to the emergence of RUDi RUDI RUDI.... Perry is blending in nicely and is becoming quite the ALL-round RB after his role switch he plays third downs and can catch the ball with the best of them... he's big enough to carry the load as his carries at Michigan showed that... I'm not knocking Rudi Johnson at all he's a very good back and he can move the chains nicely, and is clearly the man at the moment.... One little injury to Rudi Johnson and my guess is you may never hear from him again.... Perry is salivating to get in that offensive machine in Cinci and you should be salivating as well... get him on your bench ASAP !!!!

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Ladell Betts is a UFA at season end and is playing in a high octane offense. If he gets a chance to show some stuff this year... he'll be a prize catch in the 07 FA market.

 

Chris Perry is also an option I like; Najah Davenpoop if he stays healthy WILL start somewhere in 07.

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I loved Perry at Michigan and think he would be a great feature back for Cinci as he is a durable runner (I remember numerous games Perry ran the ball 40+ times against Big Ten opponents- including a 51 carry game against MSU) and he is an amazing receiver. He got my vote.

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Chris Perry imo is very, very valuable but so is Mulroney I think in that offense he has a legit chance to be the featured back when given the opportunity. Dillon will get hurt at some point and possibly even without injury Mulroney could have more carries and yards. Eventually this will be a rbbc?

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This topic is like two-year-olds engaged in parallel play. We have two different competing definitions of value going here.

 

One is likelihood of production. Guys who play behind oft injured players will be more likely to step up and put up numbers. Guys who are in potential RBBC situations fit here. These guys probably have more overall value, and could even be the starters by year end (injury or not). Guys like D. Williams, MBIII, (and maybe T. Bell and Addai if they start the year as backups) come to mind.

 

The other category are insurance guys. These are guys who are firmly backups and will only play significant minutes if the #1 goes down. They could put up big numbers if they get the call. These guys' value is increased because they can be acuqired with limited risk late in the rounds of the draft. These probably only apply to the elite (top 10) RBs and include guys like: M. Morris, M. Turner, C. Perry and L. Betts.

 

Admittedly, some backs could fit into both categories, but I think that we need to define the terms if this question is going to lead to any kind of meaningful discussion...

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Amen on points 1 and 2.

 

I couldn't disagree more on Brandon Jacobs tho. The guy was horrendous last season, even as a goaline back he was flat-out bad. I know people like to bust on Tiki's age and say he is going to be worn down, but I don't buy it. Tiki has 1890 career carries. Edge has 2188 career carries and a major knee injury. Where is the concern for Edge?

 

Entering the 2004 season, Curtis Martin was 31 and had recorded 3000 career carries. That year, Martin ran for 1600 yards and 12 TDs.

Entering the 2006 season, Tiki will be 31 and has approx 1000 less carries then Martin had at the same age.

 

I agree completely. Jacobs doesn't bring much to the table besides being a big body in the backfield.

 

Williams and Barber will both play significant minutes this year because the guys in front of them have a record of sustaining injury.

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This topic is like two-year-olds engaged in parallel play. We have two different competing definitions of value going here.

 

One is likelihood of production. Guys who play behind oft injured players will be more likely to step up and put up numbers. Guys who are in potential RBBC situations fit here. These guys probably have more overall value, and could even be the starters by year end (injury or not). Guys like D. Williams, MBIII, (and maybe T. Bell and Addai if they start the year as backups) come to mind.

 

The other category are insurance guys. These are guys who are firmly backups and will only play significant minutes if the #1 goes down. They could put up big numbers if they get the call. These guys' value is increased because they can be acuqired with limited risk late in the rounds of the draft. These probably only apply to the elite (top 10) RBs and include guys like: M. Morris, M. Turner, C. Perry and L. Betts.

 

Admittedly, some backs could fit into both categories, but I think that we need to define the terms if this question is going to lead to any kind of meaningful discussion...

Hard to do with only 10 spots for this poll. I tried and either way, guys will be left out. You could make 2 polls I suppose but then you'd still face the wrath of people who think some guys belong in one category and not the other and vice versa. Really a no win situation. Besides, the question isn't who fits into what category but rather, who do YOU value most of those players. If a player's not on the list, then argue for why he should be.

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Hard to do with only 10 spots for this poll. I tried and either way, guys will be left out. You could make 2 polls I suppose but then you'd still face the wrath of people who think some guys belong in one category and not the other and vice versa. Really a no win situation. Besides, the question isn't who fits into what category but rather, who do YOU value most of those players. If a player's not on the list, then argue for why he should be.

 

True enough...it's all speculation anyway.

 

In the end I guess it's just estimating who will have the most overall production compared with price or draft position, so (excluding RBBC guys like Addai and Bell) I guess I'd have to go with DeAngelo Williams. He's off the board a little earlier than other back ups like MBIII and White, he has talent, is in a system that runs the ball consistantly, and is behind a guy who is almost sure to go down. He's not a pure handcuff, but probably the best back up, all things considered.

 

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If we can agree LJ, Alexander and LT are the first three backs to go then it would stand to reason their backups would be the most valuable of all.

 

L. Johnson - Not sure at this point who that will be.........if I had to guess, probably Q. Griffin.

L. Thomlison - M. Turner

S. Alexander - M. Morris

 

If you spend your first, second or third overall pick on one of these guys it would be dumb to not have their backup on your team.

 

 

So you're just choosing back-ups to the Top 3? Doesn't make sense. If LJ goes down, the TD's that he's projected to score will automatically be given to his backup??? So the running backs don't have to have talent, just a strong o-line and you're destined to put up big numbers? I can't agree with this theory at all, other than possibly grabbing Turner only because I think he has potential.

 

So handcuffing Harrington is a wise decision since we're unsure how Culpepper's knee will hold up???

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