Steven Jackson

[adanley 1]

When Linehan was in MN (2002-04), he prefered to use a goal-line back. The back of his choice was Moe Williams who scored 11 TDs in 2002. Now Linehan not only has Williams again, he now has Stephen Davis who scored 12 TDs last year, primarily as a goal-line RB.

 

With Tony Fisher also thrown in to the mix, what what does this mean for Jackson at the goal-line?

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

Yes if you have Stephen Davis as his handcuff because you can never bench Stephen Davis.

[adanley 1]

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic. If you think Davis is washed up, why did STL sign him? What other use does he have other than as a goal-line back?

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

I'm assuming you're being sarcastic. If you think Davis is washed up, why did STL sign him? What other use does he have other than as a goal-line back?

They signed him because he is one of the best rbs in the league at holding a clip board he has never fumbled one yet. By the way stuff like that can't be coached you either have it in ya or you don't.

[The Rammers 0]

Dont worry bout Davis. Jackson is solid and Davis is for insurance if Jackson gets hurt. Plus Davis won't play till a few games into the season cause he hasn't practiced at all this season. He needs to get to know the offensive schemes and practice. Jackon will play harder to get more carries. He is solid.

[adanley 1]

Wow, $810,000 is a lot of money to just hold a clipboard. I would have done it for a lot less!

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

Wow, $810,000 is a lot of money to just hold a clipboard. I would have done it for a lot less!

They originally wanted Ryan Leaf but he was still under Contract with Wal Mart.

[devildog 0]

Dont worry bout Davis. Jackson is solid and Davis is for insurance if Jackson gets hurt. Plus Davis won't play till a few games into the season cause he hasn't practiced at all this season. He needs to get to know the offensive schemes and practice. Jackon will play harder to get more carries. He is solid.

 

Wouldn't count on that. Collins just signed with Tennessee and he played in the last preseason game. Doesn't take much to learn the offensive schemes at the goalline.

[adanley 1]

Wouldn't count on that. Collins just signed with Tennessee and he played in the last preseason game. Doesn't take much to learn the offensive schemes at the goalline.

 

I obviously agree. There are clearly doubts about Jackson at the goal-line.

 

Grabbed this from Fanball

While nobody knows yet exactly what Davis' role is going to be with the Rams, owners of Steven Jackson should be concerned that Davis, who has a history of producing at the stripe, will take goal line carries from Jackson. Steven is the latest fantasy stud to potentially lose value now that there could be a goal line vulture in his backfield, leaving only the Big Three, Rudi Johnson, and Ronnie Brown as elite backs without questions about how'll they be used. We'll be watching this situation closely to let fantasy owners know just how big an impact Davis will have on Jackson's fantasy value.

[ggroovy17 0]

Look at Linehan's history in Minnesota and you will see he favors a goal-line back. I see this drastically cutting into Steven Jackson's TD totals, not yardage totals.

[PRuggs 0]

I think it's a wash...

 

Will hurt Jackson:

Davis will be brought in to take a few sort yardage situations and steel a couple of TD's. However he still is there to be the #2 back becasue the Rams have no every down RB as a backup.

 

Will Help Jackson:

Those short yardage situations are hard on any RB's body. Jackson will be less prone to injury and more fresh for the rest of the game and season. Being fresh will give the opportunity for bigger plays. Also having a guy behind you keep you motivated to keep pushing.

 

At worst you can take 2-4 TD's away from Jackson, but he could put up 150 more yards by being fresh and will be less likely to get injured.

 

Jackson is still a top 10 back. After the top 3 its a crap shoot anyway

[gunnergip 0]

Davis was brought in because if the inconsistency of Jackson as well as his ever groing serious achilles injury. Jackson looked like a real sexy pick back in about June, but if you guys would do your homework you would know to avoid him as a first round pick. At worst he is a second round pick, but will not last that long. I would avoid him all together and this is coming from someone who owned him last year and almost traded away to get him back in June.

[JREarly 0]

first off, i dont like to call football players or MEN in general SEXY.

 

 

second of all jackson will get a lot of touchdowns from 15 yards and out because he is a great player. davis might take a couple touchdowns away from him but he will get majority of his scores away from the goaline anyways.

[mozzy84 0]

Look at Linehan's history in Minnesota and you will see he favors a goal-line back. I see this drastically cutting into Steven Jackson's TD totals, not yardage totals.

did you see what mn rb's he had to work with? He had to use moe. Jackson will be fine, every rb has a backup and he didin't even really have one, drastically is not right imo.

[lguero1 4]

first off, i dont like to call football players or MEN in general SEXY.

 

hey JR, he said the pick was sexy, not the player or the man. so with reading, let me change your statement:

 

first off, i dont like to call football picks or MEN in general SEXY, you homo.

 

i think that is the correct paraphrasing for you. thank you and I am available to write dissertations and essays if anyone needs help.

[Niners_fan 0]

I own Jackson in one league and was a bit concerned when I saw that the Rams signed Davis. I think Davis will take a few tds away from SJ probably like 3-5 I'm estimating but Jackson should still have a very good year I hope.

[The Moose 0]

I'm not overly concerned about this, but I put out some offers to see if I can still get similar value before the season starts. I'd be thrilled to get Rudi Johnson or Lamont Jordan, otherwise I'll stay with the pick and hope for the best.

[JetsFan28 0]

Wait a second...who's Stephen Davis?

 

Can somebody please inform the dumb?

[thunderbolts 0]

Steven Jackson loses 1 of his goaline Tds to Stephen Davis and falls slightly behind Ronnie Brown. Now Ronnie Brown now #5, Jackson #6 in draft order. Steven Jackson still get 1600 total yards and 11 Tds.

[joemax_60613 0]

Have to admit, when I saw this I was very happy I went with Ronnie. However, Miami is a big time buyer in the RB market, so whoever they go get could cause me worries too. But whoever they do get sure didn't get double digit TDs last year. If I was a SJax owner I WOULD be worried though. If I was drafting in the mid rounds I would take Ronnie again. I think it is not unrealistic to compare to Linehan's Minnesota RBs with Moe. I'm not saying this will kill SJax, it just worries me more than I would like to be worried about my #1 draft pick.

 

 

Davis was brought in because if the inconsistency of Jackson as well as his ever groing serious achilles injury. Jackson looked like a real sexy pick back in about June, but if you guys would do your homework you would know to avoid him as a first round pick. At worst he is a second round pick, but will not last that long. I would avoid him all together and this is coming from someone who owned him last year and almost traded away to get him back in June.

 

You seem to be very knowledgeable about Jackson. What homework did us guys not do when every fantasy source (outside of yourself) considered him a first round pick?

 

BTW I thought it was a heel injury? Maybe the homework I didn't do involved the trainers' report - which I guess said Achilles'?

[mrgymrat 0]

Wow, $810,000 is a lot of money to just hold a clipboard. I would have done it for a lot less!

 

Most definitely could have saved them money....

 

You don't give 810K to someone who was out of the league to just stand on the sidelines. Doesn't take much scheming to run it in from the 1-2 yd line. He's coming in from the get go.

 

SJax owners should be nervous.

[HedgeHawg 0]

Homer here.

 

I was thrilled with SJax when they drafted him. Had really high hopes (purchased a Jackson jersey before his contract was even finalized.) I have become increasingly concerned as I watch him play, however. He has the athletic ability to be a stud. He should be a pound the rock, smashmouth, full speed after the handoff RB. However, if you watch any of the games he has played, he seems very tentative upon the initial handoff. He dances and stutter steps a couple of steps before he starts to build steam.

 

I had SJax in a keeper league, and traded him for Rudi 4 days before Davis signed. My personal opinion is that by no later than week 3, Davis will be the 3rd down and goalline back for 75% of all 3rd downs and most of the goalline carries. I think it will cause a signifigant decrease in SJax short yardage TD's.

 

I think that the acquisition of Davis will help SJax in the long run (I think Davis as a tutor fits SJax running style more than Faulk), but it will lower his production this year.

[mobb_deep 920]

Homer here.

 

I was thrilled with SJax when they drafted him. Had really high hopes (purchased a Jackson jersey before his contract was even finalized.) I have become increasingly concerned as I watch him play, however. He has the athletic ability to be a stud. He should be a pound the rock, smashmouth, full speed after the handoff RB. However, if you watch any of the games he has played, he seems very tentative upon the initial handoff. He dances and stutter steps a couple of steps before he starts to build steam.

 

I had SJax in a keeper league, and traded him for Rudi 4 days before Davis signed. My personal opinion is that by no later than week 3, Davis will be the 3rd down and goalline back for 75% of all 3rd downs and most of the goalline carries. I think it will cause a signifigant decrease in SJax short yardage TD's.

 

I think that the acquisition of Davis will help SJax in the long run (I think Davis as a tutor fits SJax running style more than Faulk), but it will lower his production this year.

 

 

Last week when this bored was full of "sjax over tiki at #4" threads I repeatidly pointed out that SJax hits the hole "like it's virgin poontang". Don't get me wrong I like Sjax, but it's pretty hard to discount that fact when you watch him play. Combine that with the weak defense and inability to control the clock and you have the makings of a first round bust. I don't think SJax will be a complete bust but he's definitely not a top 5 fantasy back imo. This aquisition only further makes me feel better about passing on him in the first 6 picks of drafts I've done. I did draft him at 1.11 though in one draft followed by Lamont at 2.2.

[ravenmad22 0]

 

Last week when this bored was full of "sjax over tiki at #4" threads I repeatidly pointed out that SJax hits the hole "like it's virgin poontang". Don't get me wrong I like Sjax, but it's pretty hard to discount that fact when you watch him play. Combine that with the weak defense and inability to control the clock and you have the makings of a first round bust. I don't think SJax will be a complete bust but he's definitely not a top 5 fantasy back imo. This aquisition only further makes me feel better about passing on him in the first 6 picks of drafts I've done. I did draft him at 1.11 though in one draft followed by Lamont at 2.2.

 

I'm confused about your metaphor. If the hole is a virgin's poontang, and I am Steven Jackson, I would hit that sh!t HARD and repeatedly.

 

Homer here.

 

My personal opinion is that by no later than week 3, Davis will be the 3rd down and goalline back for 75% of all 3rd downs and most of the goalline carries.

 

Hey Homer. Do you really think Davis will become the 3rd down back? Really? He's not exactly the prototype of a great receiver out of the backfield...

[devildog 0]

I'm confused about your metaphor. If the hole is a virgin's poontang, and I am Steven Jackson, I would hit that sh!t HARD and repeatedly.

Hey Homer. Do you really think Davis will become the 3rd down back? Really? He's not exactly the prototype of a great receiver out of the backfield...

 

Can't see that happening. While I don't think Jackson is a particularly adept runner, he is a good receiving back. Allows him to easily get into space at speed.

[NewbieJr 541]

Wait a second...who's Stephen Davis?

 

Can somebody please inform the dumb?

I think he may have been the guy who Michael Westbrook beat the crap out of a few years ago in training camp.

I'm not sure what he's been up to since then.

[adanley 1]

It's been two straight years with high expectations from Jackson. Taking away his goal-line caries could hurt his value immensely. The question is can he rack up the yardage to be a number one RB?

[The_Mad_Cats 0]

Moe Williams has been cut.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=1226

 

Davis is now the # 2.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2391