Guest Mikeock Posted January 10, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted January 10, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... Well, he did break a record that he should of let stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IN$TANT REPAY 11 Posted January 10, 2007 take it to the baseball bored!@#$% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted January 10, 2007 WE HATE BASEBALL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted January 10, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... maybe they thought he wasa worse player than non hall of famer Alan Trammel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hines86rules 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... Ripken=stat compiler Ripken's avg 162 game season stats: .276 - 23 - 91 - 89 runs - .340 OB% Top 5 in MVP voting 3 times Jim Rice avg 162 game season: .298 - 30 - 113 - 97 runs - .352 OB% Top 5 in MVP voting 6 times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB1972 1 Posted January 11, 2007 Not bashing Ripken, but I dont think his game record is that big of a deal imo. I don't see how if say someone missed 5 games in the same span, he instantly becomes a legend vs the guy that missed 5 or 10 or 20. Say someone averaged 2 games gone a year even, just doesn't make me go wow. I admit its rare/unique or whatever, I am not even saying he shouldn't be in, I just don't see how its gets mentioned with the greatest sport events ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,966 Posted January 11, 2007 well there were 13 guys who didnt vote for Gwynn, A lifetime 338 hitter, with 20 straight seasons of 300+ I dont see how either were not voted for anyways, other then stupid writers who want to get their names known Not bashing Ripken, but I dont think his game record is that big of a deal imo. I don't see how if say someone missed 5 games in the same span, he instantly becomes a legend vs the guy that missed 5 or 10 or 20. Say someone averaged 2 games gone a year even, just doesn't make me go wow. I admit its rare/unique or whatever, I am not even saying he shouldn't be in, I just don't see how its gets mentioned with the greatest sport events ever. I take it you never played baseball, much less SS at the major league level, that is so much wear and tear on a body, its not like he was Gehrig who just played 1B, and im not even a Ripken supporter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted January 11, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... Babe Ruth was not a unanimous choice. Get over yourself and your unnatural manlove for Cal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mikeock Posted January 11, 2007 Babe Ruth was not a unanimous choice. Get over yourself and your unnatural manlove for Cal. Babe Ruth was big fat slob that if he played with todays players would have been a .250 average hitter. Can you imagine that big cow trying to hit a Randy Johnson Fastball or a Nolan Ryan curve.PUH----Leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase..... Not bashing Ripken, but I dont think his game record is that big of a deal imo. I don't see how if say someone missed 5 games in the same span, he instantly becomes a legend vs the guy that missed 5 or 10 or 20. Say someone averaged 2 games gone a year even, just doesn't make me go wow. I admit its rare/unique or whatever, I am not even saying he shouldn't be in, I just don't see how its gets mentioned with the greatest sport events ever. If you really think that the game record is not that big of a thing,you know NOTHING about baseball. The guy suited up every DAY for 2400 straight games. Its beyond reason.I bet there isnt person on this site that hasnt missed a day of work in 20 years.This guy played the toughest position on the field and never missed a SINGLE game. Also,take aaway the streak and the guy is still a UNANIMOUS selection.In a day and age of a bunch of steroid using cheaters,money hungry bigheaded atheletes Rip was a class act.... Im just saying what reason would 8 guys have for leaving him off of there ballot???!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grind 0 Posted January 11, 2007 I don't have as much of an issue with someone not putting Gwynn or Ripkens name on the ballet as I have with someone actually voting for Jay Buhner. When I found out that Jay Buhner got a vote, I immediately lost respect for the entire voting process. The person who voted for Jay Buhner should never cast another HOF...EVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,419 Posted January 11, 2007 With the exception of Jeff Garcia, you guys are all ghey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted January 11, 2007 If you really think that the game record is not that big of a thing,you know NOTHING about baseball. The guy suited up every DAY for 2400 straight games. Its beyond reason.I bet there isnt person on this site that hasnt missed a day of work in 20 years. I'm glad you used that analogy. It makes is very easy for me to illustrate my issue with the 'consecutive games' record. Yes, I've missed work when I've been sick or injured. You know why? Because I'm man enough to realize that if I show up to my shop or a job site sick or injured... I put everyone around me in danger. So I stay home... even though it means costing me money and screwing up my schedule. Cal played in games he shouldn't have been in... just to keep the record alive... to the detriment of his team. Nice job Cal... you're a stat ######. Here's your trophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,419 Posted January 11, 2007 Cal played in games he shouldn't have been in... just to keep the record alive... to the detriment of his team. This is true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted January 11, 2007 I'm glad you used that analogy. It makes is very easy for me to illustrate my issue with the 'consecutive games' record. Yes, I've missed work when I've been sick or injured. You know why? Because I'm man enough to realize that if I show up to my shop or a job site sick or injured... I put everyone around me in danger. So I stay home... even though it means costing me money and screwing up my schedule. Cal played in games he shouldn't have been in... just to keep the record alive... to the detriment of his team. Nice job Cal... you're a stat ######. Here's your trophy. I agree with you. A friend of mine had an idea that I think would have been perfect for Ripken. Get to 2130 (was that Gehrig's record at the time?), then sit out, thus tying the record but not beating it. Go into the record book together, keeping one of the great class acts in sports history in the record book. I think it could have been more meaningful to do this than beat the record of a man whose own streak was halted by ALS. That's my $0.02 (for what it's worth), so for those that think I'm nuts, flame away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stosher1 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Babe Ruth was big fat slob that if he played with todays players would have been a .250 average hitter. Can you imagine that big cow trying to hit a Randy Johnson Fastball or a Nolan Ryan curve.PUH----Leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase..... Dude - you have no focking idea what you are talking about! Babe Ruth was the greatest player to ever grace the diamond - hands down! Look at his numbers versus EVERYONE else at the time. He played during a period where pitchers dominated - no juiced balls, no "thinned-out" pitching staffs. The guy was an animal. Not only was he the most dominant slugger of his era, he was one of the best pitchers in the game before heading to NY.! 94-48 w/2.28 career ERA. Back to back 20 win seasons - he'd be worth $10 million/year as a pitcher in todays market! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted January 11, 2007 I take it you never played baseball, much less SS at the major league level, that is so much wear and tear on a body, its not like he was Gehrig who just played 1B, and im not even a Ripken supporter Off to the penalty box sir... 2 minutes for illegal use of the meat-head argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,419 Posted January 11, 2007 I heard that some writers turned in blank ballots. Reason being that Babe was't unanimous so no one should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobuckeyes 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Several voters this year turned in ballots without any names on them in protest of the presence of steroids in baseball. I believe the thinking was that they basically didn't feel that they could put any trust the sport since their was no way to definatively tell who was doping and who wasn't. There was an interview on NPR with one of the writers Tuesday. You can listen to it here: Abstaining From Voting on Baseball's Hall of Fame Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeremy 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Vote for Cal Ripken Jr to be inducted into the Hall ?? Puh---LEASSSSSSSSSSSSE.. I this guy doesnt deserve to be unaniomous than nobody EVER will...What a farce... I think i saw where he got the 3rd highest percentage of votes of anyone in history. Obviously he's not even close to the 3rd best to ever play the game. Heck, he's not even as good as Gwynn who got like 5 less votes than Cal. Explain that one to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 11, 2007 Not bashing Ripken, but I dont think his game record is that big of a deal imo. I don't see how if say someone missed 5 games in the same span, he instantly becomes a legend vs the guy that missed 5 or 10 or 20. Say someone averaged 2 games gone a year even, just doesn't make me go wow. I admit its rare/unique or whatever, I am not even saying he shouldn't be in, I just don't see how its gets mentioned with the greatest sport events ever. But people were missing more than that. During his 500 games after breaking the record...not one other player in the league played in all of his team's games. That is crazy. And someone posted just offensive stats to compare? I believe 2 gold gloves...19 all star appearances...3000 hits 400 hrs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB1972 1 Posted January 11, 2007 What I was trying to get at is just because you show up to work all the time, doesn't mean your work is better than someone elses due to that fact alone. People act like hes Jesus when they talk about that streak....I am sorry, its a big thing to accomplish, but it should be heres his stats and what hes done when he played...oh btw, he didnt miss a game for this long too. Not he didn't miss a game, and oh btw he got some hits the way it is now. I don't think that streak should add to his stats...if you see what im getting at. Yeah, my old boss use to give me ###### how he has never missed a day of work, but all he did was make personal phone calls and sit in his office all day. I could come into work feeling like ###### if thats all I ever did. His always being there didn't mean he was the best employee by default. All that said, Cal is good, should be in, just tired of people elevating for the streak alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted January 12, 2007 Babe Ruth was big fat slob that if he played with todays players would have been a .250 average hitter. Can you imagine that big cow trying to hit a Randy Johnson Fastball or a Nolan Ryan curve.PUH----Leaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase..... The 'fat slob' had almost 100 more career stolen bases than Ripken. Too much idiocy in your post to work on it any harder than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hines86rules 0 Posted January 12, 2007 And someone posted just offensive stats to compare? I believe 2 gold gloves...19 all star appearances...3000 hits 400 hrs... And he probably didn't deserve half those all star starts, gold glove is the worst award in sports and as I said, he's a compiler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted January 12, 2007 With the exception of Jeff Garcia, you guys are all ghey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted January 12, 2007 I don't have as much of an issue with someone not putting Gwynn or Ripkens name on the ballet as I have with someone actually voting for Jay Buhner. When I found out that Jay Buhner got a vote, I immediately lost respect for the entire voting process. The person who voted for Jay Buhner should never cast another HOF...EVER. the guy who ousted me from my ff playoffs was once traded for Buhner..so that pisses me off doubly... i liked buhner though....but i know what u mean.. where was the love for eric davis? 30 focking 30 before it became easy to pull off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vlade117 0 Posted January 12, 2007 take it to the baseball bored!@#$% bored????????? seriously???????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted January 12, 2007 I heard that some writers turned in blank ballots. Reason being that Babe was't unanimous so no one should be. There are a few reasons they weren't unanimous. 1. Joe Dimaggio didn't get voted in until his third try. Alot of old timers figure if it took Joltin' Joe three times then there is noway anyone can get in on first ballot. 2. One guy sent in a blank ballot as a protest to the "steroid era". He said he will never vote for anyone that played during that time (90-05) at least not first ballot nominees. For those of you that don't like baseball I understand, but this is definitly a better read than TO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teejay booker 0 Posted January 12, 2007 bored????????? seriously???????? You've been around for 4 years or so and you don't know that board and bored are interchangeable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mikeock Posted January 12, 2007 The 'fat slob' had almost 100 more career stolen bases than Ripken. Too much idiocy in your post to work on it any harder than that. Like I said.If Ruth ,who was definately NEVER in shape,to say the least would have been an ordinary at best baseball player in todays game.. No way he turns on a Nolon Ryan Fastball with his 40 oz Tree that he used to swing... Also, he wouldnt have stole a single base in modern day. Ruth would have beem another Steve Balboni if he didnt play back in the 30's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Like I said.If Ruth ,who was definately NEVER in shape,to say the least would have been an ordinary at best baseball player in todays game.. No way he turns on a Nolon Ryan Fastball with his 40 oz Tree that he used to swing... Also, he wouldnt have stole a single base in modern day. Ruth would have beem another Steve Balboni if he didnt play back in the 30's. So by this logic, Steve Balboni would have stolen 100+ bases back then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted January 12, 2007 Like I said.If Ruth ,who was definately NEVER in shape,to say the least would have been an ordinary at best baseball player in todays game.. No way he turns on a Nolon Ryan Fastball with his 40 oz Tree that he used to swing... Also, he wouldnt have stole a single base in modern day. Ruth would have beem another Steve Balboni if he didnt play back in the 30's. What a fuckin idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobuckeyes 0 Posted January 12, 2007 Most accounts I've read say that Ruth didn't get fat till the later half of his career. He was in pretty good shape during his early years. Plus he was clearly head and shoulders above all the rest of the altheletes of his day. If he played in today's game, and had access to all the strength and conditioning knowledge today's players have (as well as perhaps chemical enhancments), I suspect he would still be one of the top players in the game. As for fat players not being able to compete in today's MLB, tell that to David Ortiz. The influx of talent from integration and international play has certainly made today's pro baseball better top to bottom, but Ruth was clearly the best white power hitter in his day. Translated into today's game he would be no worse than Jim Thome or Jeff Bagwell (both possible future HoFers). But in my mind he would certainly be better than Mark McGwire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mikeock Posted January 12, 2007 What a fuckin idiot. It cracks me up at all the tough guys that like to call other members names because they can hide behind their Computer monitors. Why not come to : 852 N.Clinton Ave Rochester Ny 14605 Ask for Tony and then call me a Fuckin idiot.. Big Mouth Computer tough guys. LOLOLOL Im an idiot because I have a different opinion then you........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted January 12, 2007 It cracks me up at all the tough guys that like to call other members names because they can hide behind their Computer monitors. Why not come to : 852 N.Clinton Ave Rochester Ny 14605 Ask for Tony and then call me a Fuckin idiot.. Big Mouth Computer tough guys. LOLOLOL Im an idiot because I have a different opinion then you........ You do realize if that is your address you will start receiving gay porn magazines now!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hines86rules 0 Posted January 12, 2007 It cracks me up at all the tough guys that like to call other members names because they can hide behind their Computer monitors. Why not come to : 852 N.Clinton Ave Rochester Ny 14605 Ask for Tony and then call me a Fuckin idiot.. Big Mouth Computer tough guys. LOLOLOL Im an idiot because I have a different opinion then you........ I've been to Rochester.... a lot....and you are still an idiot. Steve Balboni.....please..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted January 12, 2007 I've been to Rochester.... a lot....and you are still an idiot. Steve Balboni.....please..... Steve Balboni!! Isn't he from Philly.........Rocky's cousin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berven 0 Posted January 12, 2007 As it happens, 852 N. Clinton in Rochester is where they publish SWISH, a "bi-monthly" devoted to NBA basketball from the gay perspective. I should know, because I...uh, because my roommate gets it. Uh, my wife's brother's roommate, I meant to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted January 12, 2007 maybe they thought he wasa worse player than non hall of famer Alan Trammel Yep But people were missing more than that. During his 500 games after breaking the record...not one other player in the league played in all of his team's games. That is crazy. And someone posted just offensive stats to compare? I believe 2 gold gloves...19 all star appearances...3000 hits 400 hrs... half of those all star games were not deserved. Just Like Ken Griffey Jr will get elected this year to the all star game bored????????? seriously???????? It cracks me up at all the tough guys that like to call other members names because they can hide behind their Computer monitors. Why not come to : 852 N.Clinton Ave Rochester Ny 14605 Ask for Tony and then call me a Fuckin idiot.. Big Mouth Computer tough guys. LOLOLOL Im an idiot because I have a different opinion then you........ well you are pretty dumb at least from this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites