IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 2, 2007 Breyer's older by about 2 months. Average age of Republican appointees since Reagan: 50.14 Average age of Democratic (Clinton) appointees: 57.5 Notice a disparity there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted July 2, 2007 Maybe this will help put things into perspective for you: Average age of Republican appointees since Reagan: 50.14 Average age of Democratic (Clinton) appointees: 57.5 Notice a disparity there? you keep backtracking. First, you miscalculate one's age by a HUGE margin. Then you say the last two are the youngest of the last nine, and when it's pointed out that one is the same age as one you ignored you go to averages....Next you'll tout how women live longer than men too..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 2, 2007 you keep backtracking. First, you miscalculate one's age by a HUGE margin. Then you say the last two are the youngest of the last nine, and when it's pointed out that one is the same age as one you ignored you go to averages....Next you'll tout how women live longer than men too..... I admit I made a mistake on Breyer's age initially, but the point still stands. Republicans since Reagan have, on average, appointed much younger judges than Democrats because they want their judges to stay on the court longer. You cannot argue this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted July 2, 2007 I admit I made a mistake on Breyer's age initially, but the point still stands. Republicans since Reagan have, on average, appointed much younger judges than Democrats because they want their judges to stay on the court longer. You cannot argue this point. No, it's a fact. And what's with using a vague word like "much". You'll have to define "much" because 12% isn't that "much" to me. The question is whether it's significant. Unless you have some documentation that shows they were intentionally targeting younger judges the bottom line is the sample size is statistically insignificant. It could be mere coincidence that the best judges available just happened to be somewhat younger. You're looking for something that isn't there. And let's not forget that Alito was right there agewise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted July 2, 2007 Average age of Republican appointees since Reagan: 50.14 Average age of Democratic (Clinton) appointees: 57.5 Notice a disparity there? Average age of last 17 Republican appointees (Eisenhower-GW Bush): 53.2 Average age of the last 18 Democratic appointees (FDR-Clinton): 52.9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted July 2, 2007 We now know a baby in the womb is developed much more than we knew when this decision was made. A baby in the first trimester can feel pain, has fingerprints, amoung many other things. Not to mention the woman who was credited in this fight has came out in recent years and said she lied to the court. i don't care if a baby in the first trimester can do math, i should be able to kill it if i want to. unlike most people who support abortion rights by trying to say, it's just a bunch of cells, i believe it's a life, a human life, but still i want to have the right to terminate my pregnancy despite it's value as a human being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 2, 2007 Average age of last 17 Republican appointees (Eisenhower-GW Bush): 53.2 Average age of the last 18 Democratic appointees (FDR-Clinton): 52.9 Its the Reagan Administration that came up with the idea of appointing younger judges. The age of justices appointed before then is thus inconsequential. No, it's a fact. And what's with using a vague word like "much". You'll have to define "much" because 12% isn't that "much" to me. The question is whether it's significant. Unless you have some documentation that shows they were intentionally targeting younger judges the bottom line is the sample size is statistically insignificant. It could be mere coincidence that the best judges available just happened to be somewhat younger. You're looking for something that isn't there. And let's not forget that Alito was right there agewise. "12%". You kill me. 7 years is significant. The sample size is small, I know, but common sense tells us that this is probably not due to chance alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 3 Posted July 2, 2007 Its the Reagan Administration that came up with the idea of appointing younger judges. The age of justices appointed before then is thus inconsequential. "12%". You kill me. 7 years is significant. The sample size is small, I know, but common sense tells us that this is probably not due to chance alone. Just think if Clinton would have appointed this cat, your theory would be thrown all out of whack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted July 2, 2007 Its the Reagan Administration that came up with the idea of appointing younger judges. The age of justices appointed before then is thus inconsequential. He came up with the idea to appoint younger judges? So that's why he tried to appoint a 60 year old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted July 2, 2007 He came up with the idea to appoint younger judges? So that's why he tried to appoint a 60 year old. W tried to appoint Harriet Miers. She was clearly unqualified for it, even most right-wingers thought that. So why did Bush try to appoint her? The reason is that after her nomination was withdrawn, anyone who was even remotely qualified was desirable in comparison, no matter how hard-line they were. The Bork nomination was a result of the same type of strategy. The Reagan Admin never had any intention of actually getting him on the Court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 2, 2007 i don't care if a baby in the first trimester can do math, i should be able to kill it if i want to. unlike most people who support abortion rights by trying to say, it's just a bunch of cells, i believe it's a life, a human life, but still i want to have the right to terminate my pregnancy despite it's value as a human being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted July 2, 2007 Average age of Republican appointees since Reagan: 50.14 Average age of Democratic (Clinton) appointees: 57.5 Notice a disparity there? So basically you are confirming Demwits are idiots by not appointing people who they want on the court who will live for awhile. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted July 3, 2007 i don't care if a baby in the first trimester can do math, i should be able to kill it if i want to. unlike most people who support abortion rights by trying to say, it's just a bunch of cells, i believe it's a life, a human life, but still i want to have the right to terminate my pregnancy despite it's value as a human being. Wow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted July 3, 2007 i don't understand what the wow is for. i'm am not advocating late term abortion, i am simply stating that in the 1st trimester, i don't have to lie to myself to make myself feel better about the act that i'm doing. i am totally with the pro-lifers, you are killing a life. it is a human life, it is not just a bunch of cells. yet and still, i should have the right to an abortion because without my womb for it to grow in, it cannot sustain itself. i don't get what the thumbs down are for. because i don't live in fantasy land? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boz/BoFan 0 Posted July 3, 2007 i don't understand what the wow is for. i'm am not advocating late term abortion, i am simply stating that in the 1st trimester, i don't have to lie to myself to make myself feel better about the act that i'm doing. i am totally with the pro-lifers, you are killing a life. it is a human life, it is not just a bunch of cells. yet and still, i should have the right to an abortion because without my womb for it to grow in, it cannot sustain itself. i don't get what the thumbs down are for. because i don't live in fantasy land? I would bet, including this amazingly sociopathic diatribe you just gave us, that your mother would have far more reason to kill you right now if she chose to as opposed to you killing someone who was never given a chance and never did a damn thing wrong. Since you agree thats its a human at this point and the only issue here is that it hasn't popped out of that interstate you call a vagina yet, would you agree that its 100% ok for your mother to come to your house and kill you whenever she chooses? Whats the diff? Also, IGOTWORMS, ive never seen anyone get owned quite like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 3, 2007 i don't understand what the wow is for. i'm am not advocating late term abortion, i am simply stating that in the 1st trimester, i don't have to lie to myself to make myself feel better about the act that i'm doing. i am totally with the pro-lifers, you are killing a life. it is a human life, it is not just a bunch of cells. yet and still, i should have the right to an abortion because without my womb for it to grow in, it cannot sustain itself. i don't get what the thumbs down are for. because i don't live in fantasy land? Well going by your logic, which is absurd at best, why don't the fathers have the right to decide if they want to be a dad or not???? Fock, if a woman should be allowed that "Choice", how about we have total anarchy and let everyone chose if they want to parent. After all, we are all supposed to have equal rights. I in no way support what I typed. I was just making an insane point, like pennie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted July 3, 2007 it's murder. it's murder when i abort my child and it's murder if my mom kills me today. i don't mish mash the reality of it. i don't believe that abortion is less wrong than murdering a full grown human being. i believe a life is a life. but still, i want to have the right to have an abortion. i would not choose to have an abortion after 12 weeks, but before that time i would do it. why don't the fathers have the right to decide if they want to be a dad or not???? they do get to decide. they get to decide before they have sex with the woman, by using a condom and after that time they can use the art of persuasion. after that, they can terminate their rights as a parent. sadly, they don't have the full rights as they don't have to carry the child for 9 months. life isn't fair that way for either party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 3, 2007 it's murder. it's murder when i abort my child and it's murder if my mom kills me today. i don't mish mash the reality of it. i don't believe that abortion is less wrong than murdering a full grown human being. i believe a life is a life. but still, i want to have the right to have an abortion. i would not choose to have an abortion after 12 weeks, but before that time i would do it. they do get to decide. they get to decide before they have sex with the woman, by using a condom and after that time they can use the art of persuasion. after that, they can terminate their rights as a parent. sadly, they don't have the full rights as they don't have to carry the child for 9 months. life isn't fair that way for either party. I think that you might be making their point for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boz/BoFan 0 Posted July 3, 2007 it's murder. it's murder when i abort my child and it's murder if my mom kills me today. i don't mish mash the reality of it. i don't believe that abortion is less wrong than murdering a full grown human being. i believe a life is a life. but still, i want to have the right to have an abortion. i would not choose to have an abortion after 12 weeks, but before that time i would do it. they do get to decide. they get to decide before they have sex with the woman, by using a condom and after that time they can use the art of persuasion. after that, they can terminate their rights as a parent. sadly, they don't have the full rights as they don't have to carry the child for 9 months. life isn't fair that way for either party. If you agree its murder, you should get life. You cant have it both ways. If your argument about the man having a choice to use a rubber is his only say so in the matter then your say so should end at your choice to use the pill, which you can get for FREE through govt programs. You are a monument of stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted July 3, 2007 my point had nothing to do with birth control or men's rights. i was simply stating that "my" personal feelings about abortion have nothing to do with when life begins. the embryo is alive and has value and is human, imo. that does not give me pause or make me say, gee i'm killing a life, i'm not going to get an abortion. no, i know i am killing a life and i still want an abortion anyway, because of whatever reasons: can't afford a child not married rape too many children already ectopic pregnancy risk to health too young in school or just starting career Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted July 3, 2007 You are a monument of stupidity. This has been established over and over.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted July 3, 2007 last time i checked, women were allowed to have abortions and men don't have the right to do anything about it. my perspective of when life begins isn't stupid, pro-lifers base their whole argument against abortion on that premise. the only stupid ones are you all. i don't have to lie to myself and tell myself that i'm only carrying around a bunch of cells and it's okay to get rid of it because it really doesn't matter. if that was the case, women who miscarry early shouldn't shed a tear cause it's only a bunch of cells. what difference does it make? it's not human. no, i'm the one who is not the hypocrite. the moment i know i'm pregnant, it's a life. what's all the excitement for when your wife says, honey we're pregnant? i mean, why not celebrate at the 2nd trimester? you know why? because it's a life. and you are taking a life when you get an abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisanthropicAnthropoid 0 Posted July 3, 2007 it's murder. it's murder when i abort my child and it's murder if my mom kills me today. i don't mish mash the reality of it. i don't believe that abortion is less wrong than murdering a full grown human being. i believe a life is a life. but still, i want to have the right to have an abortion. i would not choose to have an abortion after 12 weeks, but before that time i would do it. Well, at least you're intellectually honest. That's more than I can say for most people. However, you being okay with choosing murder is a tad disconcerting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites