Al Gore's lies exposed yet again.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

How is Al Gore corrupt and dishonest? Because the Oil Companies say so? or their so called "experts" say so? Oil companies do what's valuable for them not the country.

 

By not using "peer reviewed material", by using alamist BS, by being declared a liar by scientists who aren't in it to get rich, by being declared a liar in a court of law.............................................................................

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[Recliner Pilot 61]

I addressed that already. Let's see, you have oil companies who are corrupt and are known liars hiring so called "experts" who they often try to pass off as legitimate scientists to dispute GW. The reason they are hiring these so called experts to dispute GW is most likely because financially they will be affected negatively, wether it be tighter restrictions, legislation, or people relying on other sources of energy besides oil. So again, you have Big Oil who are known to be corrupt, known to be liars, have a lot to lose if people become more environmentally conscious, hiring so called experts who a lot of the time aren't even scientists, to dispute GW and Al Gore is the one who is deliberately decieving us? What about all the legitimate scientists who support GW? Are they con men too? Yet the Oil companies who are known liars and are corrupt, they're the honest ones.

 

You kin to Slo Nuff?

 

You both bring stuff to a thread passing it off as fact when it is really just your opinion. Slo Nuff has already had to admit this, I think it's time you did too.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

There are plenty of scientific studies explaining why it's not just "the sun". Other planets temperatures are rising or lowering for various reasons. Just because everyone doesn't jump to respond to every little argument you try and bring up, doesn't mean that you're right.

 

 

What are they?

[Bert 1,129]

Yet the Oil companies who are known liars and are corrupt, they're the honest ones.

 

Politians have a much longer and storied history of being corrupt liars than anyone on the planet.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Flashover dun run away.

[Flashover 0]

Flashover dun run away.

 

Once again you make a statement without getting any facts. Some of us work.

 

If you continue to believe that we have no effect on our climate you probably never will. Unfortunately you are too stubborn and ignorant to understand this and I don't understand why you think it is a bad thing for us to do things to help our environment. Doesn't really matter though as you have no credibility so go ahead and spew your propaganda because the majority of people see right through your bs and understand the importance of helping the planet.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Once again you make a statement without getting any facts. Some of us work.

 

If you continue to believe that we have no effect on our climate you probably never will. Unfortunately you are too stubborn and ignorant to understand this and I don't understand why you think it is a bad thing for us to do things to help our environment. Doesn't really matter though as you have no credibility so go ahead and spew your propaganda because the majority of people see right through your bs and understand the importance of helping the planet.

 

Looks to me that it is YOU making up statements. I have never said we shouldn't do things to help the environment, I just don't buy into Algores BS about my SUV making the planet warmer. I base this on a track record millions of years old that shows the Earth has heated and cooled over and over without man driving SUVs or you spraying your hair spray.

 

I see you can't back up your claim there are "various" reasons other planets are warming. That's a shock.

[Angry White Male 0]

It's cold today! GLobal warming is BS!

[Flashover 0]

Looks to me that it is YOU making up statements. I have never said we shouldn't do things to help the environment, I just don't buy into Algores BS about my SUV making the planet warmer. I base this on a track record millions of years old that shows the Earth has heated and cooled over and over without man driving SUVs or you spraying your hair spray.

 

I see you can't back up your claim there are "various" reasons other planets are warming. That's a shock.

 

Al Gore is not just saying SUV are the problem. He is trying to bring awareness so that people will be more environmentally conscious. As far as the planets, There are some long articles/studies so I'll try and make it short.

Jupiter is not experiencing global warming, but it is poised to experience regional climate change, “getting warmer near the equator and cooler at the poles. http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/release...1_jupiter.shtml

Pluto’s warming was likely not connected with that of the Earth. The major way they could be connected is if the warming was caused by a large increase in sunlight. But the solar constant–the amount of sunlight received each second–is carefully monitored by spacecraft. The sun’s output is much too steady to be changing the temperature of Pluto. The sunspot record and neutron monitor data,” as Realclimate.org explains, “show that solar activity has not increased since the 1950s and is therefore unlikely to be able to explain the recent warming. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=180

The causal link between the Earth’s warming and the alleged warming of other planets would have to be solar activity. But a recent study has shown that solar activity, including cosmic rays, are not responsible for recent planetary warming. The study concluded. Here we show that over the past 20 years, all the trends in the Sun that could have had an influence on the Earth’s climate have been in the opposite direction to that required to explain the observed rise in global mean temperatures. http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/proce...spa20071880.pdf

 

Cue the Algore ******** claiming the link is owned by "evil big oil"

 

Did you not think it was? Do you think that Exxon's so called "experts" are credible? Do you care about the environment and think that we should do anything about it?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

For every one of your links I can bring one that shows solar activity to be the cause of warming on Earth and other planets.

 

How do you explain the Earth warming and cooling over and over again in it's history? This should be good.

[Flashover 0]

For every one of your links I can bring one that shows solar activity to be the cause of warming on Earth and other planets.

 

How do you explain the Earth warming and cooling over and over again in it's history? This should be good.

 

Answer my shite first! I answered yours now it's your turn.

[Rattlesnake 0]

I just woke up from a brief nap......so my eyes may be fuzzy, but is this a Republican accusing someone else of using scare tactics, lying, and providing people with "misinformation"?

 

 

Yeah, I didn't really expect a response.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Answer my shite first! I answered yours now it's your turn.

 

I'll take that as an admission you can't show us the "various reasons" other planets are warming, as you claimed.

[Flashover 0]

I'll take that as an admission you can't show us the "various reasons" other planets are warming, as you claimed.

 

Did you not read my post?

 

Cue the Algore ******** claiming the link is owned by "evil big oil"

 

Did you not think it was?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Did you not read my post?

Did you not think it was?

 

Yes I did.

 

Exactly how does Exxon sending a small portion of the total funding to a former organization discredit the scientists findings?

 

I'll tell ya......it doesn't. Except in the sheeple's mind such as yourself who suck Algore's cack.

 

 

So, you got anything to back up your claim the other planets are warming from "various reasons", or are you ready to admit the obvious.......IT'S THE SUN, STOOPID!

[Recliner Pilot 61]

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=180

 

 

One of the major players in this link is Stefan Rahmstorf, who recieved $1 million from:

 

http://www.jsmf.org/grants/index.php

 

 

If you look at the jsmf.org site you will see they know nothing about climate science, so using your logic this Stefan guy is owned by someone totally unrelated to climate science and therefore your entire post is BS.

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/release...1_jupiter.shtml

 

LMFAO

 

This is the best ya got? A Mechanical Engineer from BERKELEY?

 

 

"But fans of the Great Red Spot can rest easy. The most famous of Jupiter's vortices - which are often compared to Earth's hurricanes - will stay put, largely because of its location near the planet's equator, says Philip Marcus, a professor at UC Berkeley's Department of Mechanical Engineering.

 

Using whirlpools and eddies for comparison, Marcus bases his forecast on principles learned in junior-level fluid dynamics and on the observation that many of Jupiter's vortices are literally vanishing into thin air. "

 

[Flashover 0]

Cue the Algore ******** claiming the link is owned by "evil big oil"

 

Did you not think it was? Because it sure seems that you are insinuating that it wasn't.

 

Do you care about the environment and think that we should do anything about it?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Did you not think it was? Because it sure seems that you are insinuating that it wasn't.

 

Do you care about the environment and think that we should do anything about it?

 

 

You kin to Slo Nuff? How many times do you want me to answer the same questions. OK, read slowly:

 

No, I don't think they are owned by evil big oil because they aren't.

 

Yes, I do care about the environment. I just don't buy into Algore's gloom and doom plan to destroy our economy on bogus, non-peer reviewed, lie filled "science".

 

Have I ansered these questions enought times for ya yet?

[gocolts 300]

You kin to Slo Nuff? How many times do you want me to answer the same questions. OK, read slowly:

 

No, I don't think they are owned by evil big oil because they aren't.

 

Yes, I do care about the environment. I just don't buy into Algore's gloom and doom plan to destroy our economy on bogus, non-peer reviewed, lie filled "science".

 

Have I ansered these questions enought times for ya yet?

I think you have. However, I guarantee you will be asked the same question.

 

I am still waiting for the answer to this:

 

So, you got anything to back up your claim the other planets are warming from "various reasons", or are you ready to admit the obvious.......IT'S THE SUN, STOOPID!

[Flashover 0]

For every one of your links I can bring one that shows solar activity to be the cause of warming on Earth and other planets.

 

If you want more reasons/sources, how about just about every non-exxon funded scientist who says man contributes to global warming. However please provide your argument/links that global warming is "just the sun stoopid". Also, could you please answer the rest of my question on what you think should be done about the environment? And what specifically are you concerned with when it comes to the environment. Also, can you tell me what percentage of the funding is from Exxon? I don't know the exact percentage of funding Exxon is responsible for so I am curious to see what a "small amount" is. It may very well be a small amount I'm just curious what you consider a small amount. Also, you insinuated that this report was not funded at all by Exxon and you even asked me to prove that it was so please don't try and make it seem otherwise.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

If you want more reasons/sources, how about just about every non-exxon funded scientist who says man contributes to global warming. However please provide your argument/links that global warming is "just the sun stoopid". Also, could you please answer the rest of my question on what you think should be done about the environment? And what specifically are you concerned with when it comes to the environment. Also, can you tell me what percentage of the funding is from Exxon? I don't know the exact percentage of funding Exxon is responsible for so I am curious to see what a "small amount" is. It may very well be a small amount I'm just curious what you consider a small amount. Also, you insinuated that this report was not funded at all by Exxon and you even asked me to prove that it was so please don't try and make it seem otherwise.

 

So now you are claiming EVERY scientist who says man isn't causing global warming is funded/owned by Exxon.

 

LMFAO

 

My argument that the sun is causing global warming is based on centuries of documented evidence of changes in solar activity either warms or cools the earth's climate. I'm not basing it on "computer models" written by people with an agenda, and which have been proven inaccurate every time someone actually compares the predictions with what actually transpired.

 

And I don't give a ratsass about the % that Exxon contributed to the former organization in your link. It proves exactly squat with regards to the findings of the study of the group I linked to.

 

So, are you ever gonna show us the "various reasons" that are causing the other planets to warm or not?

[Flashover 0]

See most scientists are pretty intelligent and logical. So to say that the overwhelming majority of scientists who believe that man contributes to GW didn't consider that maybe it's "Just the Sun"? well...I understand a simpleton like you might believe that but not most scientists. Does the sun play a role in GW?...sure. Is it the sole cause? No. And please answer my question about what specifically are you concerned with in regards to the environment? Do you think we should do anything about the environment? I mean afterall it is just the sun right? And if you don't give a rat's ass (or even know what it is) about what percentage Exxon's funding is then don't make a point about it and claim that it's a small portion.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

See most scientists are pretty intelligent and logical. So to say that the overwhelming majority of scientists who believe that man contributes to GW didn't consider that maybe it's "Just the Sun"? well...I understand a simpleton like you might believe that but not most scientists. Does the sun play a role in GW?...sure. Is it the sole cause? No. And please answer my question about what specifically are you concerned with in regards to the environment? Do you think we should do anything about the environment? I mean afterall it is just the sun right? And if you don't give a rat's ass (or even know what it is) about what percentage Exxon's funding is then don't make a point about it and claim that it's a small portion.

 

Ok jackass, I'll take a cue from you:

 

I answered your questions, now it's your turn.

 

Show us the "various reasons" other planets are warming......for about the 15th time.

[itsbigmoni 1]

The good news is you can now elect Hillary Clinton and her cronies will raise your taxes too. Enjoy.

 

BTW - Do you agree that Capitalism is the best system in the world because it offers people incentive to take risk and increase wealth, which is good for the country? If so, you should be celebrating everytime Google, Haliburton, Exxon, etc. pronounce profits exceeding expectations.

 

So you'd be in favor of letting monopolies form? I mean, if they beat out their competition, its pure capitalism right?

 

I am happy when most companies exceed their expectations, however i'm not excited by the fact exxon made record profits. Oil is unlike just about every other product. It was proved back in the 70's that oil doesn't follow typical economic rules. People are dependent on oil. So i'm not happy about exxon charging high prices on a HIGHLY inelastic product. I mean, if they wanted to, they could charge $10 a gallon and it would still sell. We rent out part of our shop to a mobile tire guy. His rates are going up becuase of how much gas cost has gone up.

 

Do you guys have any idea how much trucks are use to deliver products? So when companies like my uncles start charging farmers more to deliver their produce, the farmers are gonna have to charger higher prices. Now, safeway has to pay more for the produce, but they're just gonna pass the cost on to the consumer.

 

I could understand gas prices if opec was charging outrageous amounts. I can't understand gas prices at a time exxon is making record profits.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Do you guys have any idea how much trucks are use to deliver products? So when companies like my uncles start charging farmers more to deliver their produce, the farmers are gonna have to charger higher prices. Now, safeway has to pay more for the produce, but they're just gonna pass the cost on to the consumer.

 

Glad to see you are in favor of lower taxes on businesses.

[Flashover 0]

First of all you didn't answer my questions and here ya go:

 

 

Jupiter is growing a new red spot and the Hubble Space Telescope is photographing the scene. "Red Spot Jr." as it is being called, formed after three white oval-shaped storms—two of which were at least 90 years old—merged between 1998 and 2000. Close inspections of Red Spot Jr., in Hubble images released today, reveal that similar to the Great Red Spot, the more recently developed storm rises above the top of the main cloud deck on Jupiter. The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe. The storm is growing in altitude, this growth signals a temperature increase in that region.

Jupiter Link

 

New findings suggest that Saturn's moon Enceladus is oozing heat. That's a surprise because Saturn orbits, on average, about 1.3 billion kilometers (more than 800 million miles) from the sun. "You expect everything to be cold and frozen" out there, says Andrew Ingersoll. He's a planetary scientist at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The evidence comes from the Cassini spacecraft, which has been orbiting Saturn since July 2004 (see "Ringing Saturn"). When Cassini passed close to Enceladus in 2005, it sent data from a dozen scientific instruments to teams of scientists across the United States. An instrument for measuring magnetism detected unusual warping in the magnetic field around the moon's south pole. A detector for measuring infrared radiation (which is associated with heat) sensed a hot spot in the same polar area. Another instrument saw glassy ice there, but nowhere else, on the moon. Cameras revealed large cracks on the surface. Other instruments unveiled a cloud of gas, which contained tiny grains of water ice and other ingredients, over the pole.

Plumes of icy material spew from the southern polar region of Enceladus. Indeed, later images showed a geyser of ice crystals and other material shooting hundreds of miles into space (see "A Moon's Icy Spray"). That's as high as Enceladus is wide.

The only explanation for these unexpected findings is that enceladus somehow supplies its own heat. "Sunlight could not possibly produce temperatures like that in the outer solar system."

Saturns moon link

 

Shifting dust storms on Mars might be contributing to global warming there that is shrinking the planet's southern polar ice caps, scientists say. The wind speeds could ramp up until a threshold is reached, at which point conditions are ripe for a dust storm that swamps the entire planet, the researchers speculate. "A dust storm is kind of like a big party that picks up dust and tosses it everywhere," said study leader Lori Fenton of the NASA Ames Research Center in California. "It takes forever to clean up after a party." Once the dust storm subsides, particles fall out of the atmosphere and are redistributed over a large portion of the planet. "You can almost think of a big dust storm as a resetting mechanism. The researchers think they are on the right track because the computer model predicts a build-up of heat in the atmosphere above Mars' southern hemisphere that is roughly equal to the amount of energy necessary to account for the diminishment of the planet's southern polar ice caps that has been observed in recent years.

Mars link

[Recliner Pilot 61]

The only explanation for these unexpected findings is that enceladus somehow supplies its own heat.

 

Shifting dust storms on Mars might be contributing to global warming there that is shrinking the planet's southern polar ice caps, scientists say. The wind speeds could ramp up until a threshold is reached, at which point conditions are ripe for a dust storm that swamps the entire planet, the researchers speculate. "A dust storm is kind of like a big party that picks up dust and tosses it everywhere," said study leader Lori Fenton of the NASA Ames Research Center in California. "It takes forever to clean up after a party." Once the dust storm subsides, particles fall out of the atmosphere and are redistributed over a large portion of the planet. "You can almost think of a big dust storm as a resetting mechanism. The researchers think they are on the right track because the computer model predicts a build-up of heat in the atmosphere above Mars' southern hemisphere that is roughly equal to the amount of energy necessary to account for the diminishment of the planet's southern polar ice caps that has been observed in recent years.

Mars link

 

Ironclad it ain't.

[TheBlade 3]

First of all you didn't answer my questions and here ya go:

Jupiter is growing a new red spot and the Hubble Space Telescope is photographing the scene. "Red Spot Jr." as it is being called, formed after three white oval-shaped storms—two of which were at least 90 years old—merged between 1998 and 2000. Close inspections of Red Spot Jr., in Hubble images released today, reveal that similar to the Great Red Spot, the more recently developed storm rises above the top of the main cloud deck on Jupiter. The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe. The storm is growing in altitude, this growth signals a temperature increase in that region.

Jupiter Link

 

New findings suggest that Saturn's moon Enceladus is oozing heat. That's a surprise because Saturn orbits, on average, about 1.3 billion kilometers (more than 800 million miles) from the sun. "You expect everything to be cold and frozen" out there, says Andrew Ingersoll. He's a planetary scientist at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The evidence comes from the Cassini spacecraft, which has been orbiting Saturn since July 2004 (see "Ringing Saturn"). When Cassini passed close to Enceladus in 2005, it sent data from a dozen scientific instruments to teams of scientists across the United States. An instrument for measuring magnetism detected unusual warping in the magnetic field around the moon's south pole. A detector for measuring infrared radiation (which is associated with heat) sensed a hot spot in the same polar area. Another instrument saw glassy ice there, but nowhere else, on the moon. Cameras revealed large cracks on the surface. Other instruments unveiled a cloud of gas, which contained tiny grains of water ice and other ingredients, over the pole.

Plumes of icy material spew from the southern polar region of Enceladus. Indeed, later images showed a geyser of ice crystals and other material shooting hundreds of miles into space (see "A Moon's Icy Spray"). That's as high as Enceladus is wide.

The only explanation for these unexpected findings is that enceladus somehow supplies its own heat. "Sunlight could not possibly produce temperatures like that in the outer solar system."

Saturns moon link

 

Shifting dust storms on Mars might be contributing to global warming there that is shrinking the planet's southern polar ice caps, scientists say. The wind speeds could ramp up until a threshold is reached, at which point conditions are ripe for a dust storm that swamps the entire planet, the researchers speculate. "A dust storm is kind of like a big party that picks up dust and tosses it everywhere," said study leader Lori Fenton of the NASA Ames Research Center in California. "It takes forever to clean up after a party." Once the dust storm subsides, particles fall out of the atmosphere and are redistributed over a large portion of the planet. "You can almost think of a big dust storm as a resetting mechanism. The researchers think they are on the right track because the computer model predicts a build-up of heat in the atmosphere above Mars' southern hemisphere that is roughly equal to the amount of energy necessary to account for the diminishment of the planet's southern polar ice caps that has been observed in recent years.

Mars link

 

Ok, honest question here....You quoted 3 sources that cite 3 different reasons for 3 different planets having unexplained rises in global heat. So why is it so obvious that warming on earth is caused by SUVs, carbon emissions, holes in the ozone, etc.??

 

Again, I'm asking an honest question that I think is a logical one based on the arguments thus far in this thread.

[Flashover 0]

Ironclad it ain't.

 

"Scientists have struggled to explain the shrinkage and have blamed it on everything from fluctuations in the Sun's output to natural variations in the planet's orbit and tilt."

 

Looks like yours isn't either, then again you haven't posted your argument/links like I asked nor have you answered what you are specifically concerned with when it comes to the environment. You also haven't answered my question of what you think should be done about the environment...if anything, or if you believe the sun is solely responsible for GW on earth? So I guess you haven't answered my questions like you claim you have. I on the other hand have answered yours including giving you reasons why other planets may be warming (Dust clouds/storms, carbon dioxide and other gases, volcanic activity/vents, etc.) I also like how you convieniently ignored my other links.

[Flashover 0]

Ok, honest question here....You quoted 3 sources that cite 3 different reasons for 3 different planets having unexplained rises in global heat. So why is it so obvious that warming on earth is caused by SUVs, carbon emissions, holes in the ozone, etc.??

 

Again, I'm asking an honest question that I think is a logical one based on the arguments thus far in this thread.

 

I think one of the main points here is that GW is not caused by SUV, carbon emissions, holes in the ozone, etc. but they are all contributors. There are numerous factors that can contribute to GW including the sun. However, the consensus is that carbon emissions and other pollutants and actions that we do contribute and expedite GW. A lot of GW skeptics try and discredit others by incorrectly stating their argument. Most people aren't saying get rid of your SUV because it's the sole cause of GW, the point is that if we can start making steps towards being more environmentally conscious and start researching and developing alternative types of fuels then we can make a huge difference to our environment/planet, our future, and our kids' future.

[TheBlade 3]

I think one of the main points here is that GW is not caused by SUV, carbon emissions, holes in the ozone, etc. but they are all contributors. There are numerous factors that can contribute to GW including the sun. However, the consensus is that carbon emissions and other pollutants and actions that we do contribute and expedite GW. A lot of GW skeptics try and discredit others by incorrectly stating their argument. Most people aren't saying get rid of your SUV because it's the sole cause of GW, the point is that if we can start making steps towards being more environmentally conscious and start researching and developing alternative types of fuels then we can make a huge difference to our environment/planet, our future, and our kids' future.

 

I can respect that. Thank you for the honest answer.

 

FWIW, I don't believe much of anything that has Al Gore's name attached to it. But, I do think that we as a civilization need to do more to be environmentally friendly. You would think that with the technology available today, someone could come up with a reliable, AFFORDABLE alternative fuel source. Maybe someday.

 

And to the posters earlier talking about ExxonMobile and capitalism, every company should do the best they can to maximize profits to maximize share value for the shareholders. BUT, with something such as oil that all of modern civilization has become so dependent on, I personally don't think that this maximization should include record profits in the BILLIONS per quarter over the last 5 or so years. The amount of money that big oil is making is absolutely absurd. And I don't think that the American populace should have to cut down on their driving miles and vehicle choice to bring fuel back into an affordable range. This is not an issue of supply and demand when companies are setting records for profits each and every quarter. It's ridiculous and not a defensible position outside of pure greed.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

"Scientists have struggled to explain the shrinkage and have blamed it on everything from fluctuations in the Sun's output to natural variations in the planet's orbit and tilt."

 

Looks like yours isn't either, then again you haven't posted your argument/links like I asked nor have you answered what you are specifically concerned with when it comes to the environment. You also haven't answered my question of what you think should be done about the environment...if anything, or if you believe the sun is solely responsible for GW on earth? So I guess you haven't answered my questions like you claim you have. I on the other hand have answered yours including giving you reasons why other planets may be warming (Dust clouds/storms, carbon dioxide and other gases, volcanic activity/vents, etc.) I also like how you convieniently ignored my other links.

 

 

I asked earlier if you were kin to Slo Nuff, now I'm convinced you are one of his alia.

 

I have answered your questions......you just didn't get the answers you were expecting or wanting. I guess I will try one last time. I am for a clean environment, and I am against pollution.

 

I just don't buy into Algore's BS. He would have us sign a treaty (Kyoto) that would devestate the U.S. economy while exempting the biggest polluters on the planet (China, Inda). And he bases this on junk science that has no history of being correct, and has been proven as lies by scientists as well as courts of law.

 

And yes, once again I will stand by the fact the Sun is responsible for any changes in temperatures we are experiencing. Once again, I base this on centuries of documented climate changes related to changes in solar activity. You can believe the inventor of the innerwebs, I will stick with a proven track record.

 

Funny how you want to bring volcanic activity into the discussion as a viable reason other planets are warming, yet your ilk dismiss it as falacy when someone points out volcanoes spew more greenhouse gasses into Earth's atmosphere than man has since the beginning of time.

 

So, you didn't get the answers you were looking for did ya? Nope, I don't want to cut down every tree, poison the rivers and lakes, starve old people, kick puppies, or eat babies for dinner. Damn, those Demwitmoveon.org talking points are wrong yet again.

[Flashover 0]

And yes, once again I will stand by the fact the Sun is responsible for any changes in temperatures we are experiencing.

 

Funny how you want to bring volcanic activity into the discussion as a viable reason other planets are warming, yet your ilk dismiss it as falacy when someone points out volcanoes spew more greenhouse gasses into Earth's atmosphere than man has since the beginning of time.

 

I thought it was "Just the Sun Stoopid" or is it volcanoes? Make up your mind!

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I thought it was "Just the Sun Stoopid" or is it volcanoes? Make up your mind!

 

 

If you were able to comprehend what I just posted you would know I said volcanoes have released more greenhouse gasses than all of mankind. Sometimes in a single eruption, as in Mt. Pinitubo.

 

That fact kinda adds to the mountain of evidence Algore, and you, are full of BS.

 

HTH

[drobeski 3,061]

where is the "just shut the fock up for once and get a focking life already option, you have been crying about the same old bullshit for how many years now at this site ? all politicians are lying scumbags, realize it and do something productive with you life" option ?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

where is the "just shut the fock up for once and get a focking life already option, you have been crying about the same old bullshit for how many years now at this site ? all politicians are lying scumbags, realize it and do something productive with you life" option ?

 

NEWSFLASH:

 

If ya don't want to read a thread, don't click on it.

 

YOU can now STFU and go back to the poop threads.

 

HTH

[drobeski 3,061]

NEWSFLASH:

 

If ya don't want to read a thread, don't click on it.

 

YOU can now STFU and go back to the poop threads.

 

HTH

just trying to help pal

 

maybe you should try a proffesional ?

[Greedo 13]

That's because it is!

The Science and Public Policy Institute (SPPI) is formerly the Center for Science and Public Policy for the Frontiers of Freedom. The Frontiers of Freedom Institute received a donation of $100,000 from ExxonMobil in 2002 for the foundation (in 2003) of the Frontiers of Freedom Institute's Center for Science and Public Policy. It received a further $90,000 in funding from ExxonMobil in 2006. Nice try. Another fine example of why you have no credibility on this board.

 

How dare you trouble those in fantasy land (ie. the 3 people left that don't believe in global warming), with actual facts! Oil company funded hack outfits can be credible, just ask neutral parties such as RP.

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See Retarded Pilot, you insinuated in your original post that your link was not funded by Exxon. When I said it was you asked me to prove it, which I did. You asked me why that makes it less credible and I explained how Big Oil deliberately lied in front of Congress not to mention how they had to offer money to scientists to dismiss GW. Considering that Big Oil's purpose is to make lots of money/profit, they have a vested interest in discrediting GW. If you cannot see how all that hurts their credibility, well then you probably believed Big Tobacco when they said smoking doesn't cause cancer and nicotene isn't addictive. Lastly, I provided you with reasons why other planets might be warming (Gases, dust storms, volcanic activity, etc.)

 

You still haven't posted your Proof that the sun is solely responsible for GW.

I asked for specifics on your view of the environment and what should be done if anything.

You claimed that Exxon's funding was only a small amount but then was unable to back up your claim so you had to back track.

You said that I was "looking for certain answers that I didn't get" which is BS!

You're implying that I'm saying that you want to cut down every tree, poison the rivers and lakes, starve old people, kick puppies, or eat babies for dinner. Come on now!

...Drobeski is right, there needs to be a "just shut the fock up for once and get a focking life already option"

 

So before you start misstating my arguments why don't you go up a couple of posts and read my answer to the question "TheBlade" asked me. Then when you're done, read the first line of his response. It should look something like this:

I can respect that. Thank you for the honest answer.

Take a good look at it because that's the closest a phrase like that will ever get to one of your posts!