Happy Holidays fudge-packer fans

[Cruzer 1,996]

The Packers can and will beat Dallas on the road. I'd wager money on it. Look no further then Big D for the BIGGEST frauds in the NFL this season.

oh, had to check the date on this post. looked just all the rest of them posted before green bay played dallas earlier this year.

[Cruzer 1,996]

and when dallas loses in the playoffs, gb will have home field again...

green bay will be watching the nfc championship on tv if they play like that dog crap in their playoff game.

[Cruzer 1,996]

Favre's past in Dallas is pretty irrelevant given all but about a quarter and a half of it happened before 2000.

folks keep saying this, and yet favre still sucks ass everytime he steps into texas stadium. so there just might be something to it - 8 or 9 times of no wins and sucking ass is one hell of a coicidence. and the score was 27-10 when favre got knocked out - the pack may have been down 40 if he had stayed in.

 

that being said, dallas hasn't looked exactly great the last 2 weeks either. the pack can certainly beat us, and beat us up pretty good, if we do not pick it back up to the previous level.

 

as far as glenn, no he's not a savior - but he will be a HUGE lift. not only from an emotional standpoint, but we're not talking about your average skilled wr. glenn has temendous speed and presents and whole different set of concerns for the defense, not to mention opening up avenues not previously open to this offense w/out him.

[Sho Nuff 720]

ok, i think we are done here....

 

God Bless you being one of the few to have the internet in Tennessee...for what you claim you know, you are letting yourself down...i hear about the team long before you find out on your lil websites and chatrooms..are you reading what you write?

 

sherman wouldnt have been fired after the seahawks game..the bashing came after the phily game....

 

the phily game was AFTER the seattle game...if he was bashed after a home playoff win and phily...do you think the vultures wouldve been quiet after a loss at home and NO playoff wins? are you KIDDING me? did you even think that one through? quick, go look it up on the internet and tell me what it tells you...

you can bash the nfc west if u wish...but ill just point out that no..the north is not any better...it isnt...

 

Do you think all I hear about the team comes from the Internet?

Lets forget that all of my family lives there.

Lets forget that there are 6 season tickets in my family and they attend every game.

Lets forget that I watch about every press conference as soon as its up on Packers.com.

Lets forget that I read the Press Gazette, Journal Sentinal, and Appleton Post Crescent just about daily.

 

Yes, I follow the team pretty damn closely.

 

Yes, the Philly game was after the Seattle game, but that game alone would not have just gotten him fried.

 

I can bash the NFC West because it blows. And yes, the North is better.

 

i just think its great how u are so confident that u know more..(though u dont)..and u think its better for a punter on the other teams 40 to blast it into the endzone for a touchback as opoosed to plackemeyer putting it out at the 10 or so..just because ryan gains 10 more gross yards doesnt mean hes a better punter...

 

Yes, I am confident I know more about the Packers...just as you would be confident that you know more about Seattle.

And eventhough I live in Nashville, I bet there are plenty of Titans fans that know more about them than I do. (even some that don't live here)

 

I was not the one claiming that GB is so great in punting. You made the claim of your punter being better...yet the stats don't seem to really support that.

 

and im not thumping my chest about 4th and 26...i took grief about that everytime i went to phily after that..i just correctly point out what led to it..had favre had been as brass and bold as hass was that day, no one here wouldve hated him for it.. packers fans have big anti-sentiments when it comes to holmgren and the seahawks...get over it already...you arent a TRUE packers fan if you think of that way in any way, shape or form and laugh about it....

 

Had Favre been as brash as bold to say that, he would have been called arrogant...but he would also have had previous success (in the playoffs even) to back it up...Hasselbeck had what to base his stupidity on?

 

I have anti sentiments for the way Holmgren left. Nothing more. Don't care either way about the Seahawks...but it seems you are the one who needs to get over it. Its you who made the idiotic point of blasting someone who had the nerve to think GB can beat Seattle. Not the other way around.

 

 

and im not a blind homer for giving reasons why i think seattle can win..YOU are the one that keeps acting like this is miami vs ne..you just keep making up excuses when i comment on seattle and that is getting old quick..

should be a good game regardless...i hope like you, the packers are looking past seattle and preparing for dallas...see if that gets them as far as working indoors during the winter you can reply...but im done with this topic...

 

You are a blind homer who thinks GB has no chance.

Where did I claim anything like Miami vs. NE?

Where did I claim they would kill them and it would not be close.

I very simply asked why GB could not or should not beat them? Because you were the one with the nerve to question why someone thought GB could do it.

 

Where have I looked past Seattle, or whoever would come to GB in the playoffs?

Can't find it can you.

[Sho Nuff 720]

folks keep saying this, and yet favre still sucks ass everytime he steps into texas stadium. so there just might be something to it - 8 or 9 times of no wins and sucking ass is one hell of a coicidence. and the score was 27-10 when favre got knocked out - the pack may have been down 40 if he had stayed in.

 

What he did in 99 has nothing to do with what he can do today is the point.

The team around him is completely different.

The D is different, the WRs are different, the line is different, the coaches have changed...and so on.

 

And actually, the score was 20-10.

 

that being said, dallas hasn't looked exactly great the last 2 weeks either. the pack can certainly beat us, and beat us up pretty good, if we do not pick it back up to the previous level.

 

Agreed...and any team will kill Green Bay if they play like they did against Chicago.

 

as far as glenn, no he's not a savior - but he will be a HUGE lift. not only from an emotional standpoint, but we're not talking about your average skilled wr. glenn has temendous speed and presents and whole different set of concerns for the defense, not to mention opening up avenues not previously open to this offense w/out him.

 

I agree he should help...but how rusty will he be after missing all that time.

How would his timing with Romo be...his own timing getting off the line (especially if it is against GB and he is getting bumped at the line by Woodson)?

I agree he is a tough Veteran...but the time off might be a bit too much.

[49ers_suck 0]

Sorry "douchy", I'm not a Packers fan, I'm a Seahawks fan. I just haven't been blinded by the mainstream media and your huge bandwagon fanbase. Despite records there isn't that much separating Dalls, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and Seattle. I've come to the conclusion that the conference is completely up for grabs.

 

All said, I'd much rather have the Hawks face you guys in Irving then the Packers in Green Bay. I dont care if Dallas has beaten them, the Packers are a much more complete team.

 

Getcha popcorn ready </gay>

well, if you come to Irving and find the Cowboys team clicking on all cylinders, you will be wishing you were playing the packers in GB. the whole, "Dallas isn't much of a home field advantage" thing is stupid. a comfortable Romo will pick the hawks apart all day long. now ,with that said, the Cowboys have not played well at the end of the regular season. but they are the most talented team in the NFC. we'll see if they play like it.

 

folks keep saying this, and yet favre still sucks ass everytime he steps into texas stadium. so there just might be something to it - 8 or 9 times of no wins and sucking ass is one hell of a coicidence. and the score was 27-10 when favre got knocked out - the pack may have been down 40 if he had stayed in.

 

that being said, dallas hasn't looked exactly great the last 2 weeks either. the pack can certainly beat us, and beat us up pretty good, if we do not pick it back up to the previous level.

 

as far as glenn, no he's not a savior - but he will be a HUGE lift. not only from an emotional standpoint, but we're not talking about your average skilled wr. glenn has temendous speed and presents and whole different set of concerns for the defense, not to mention opening up avenues not previously open to this offense w/out him.

this pretty much sums it up.

 

favre has been a very good QB this year, but he is prone to very bad outings (see game against Dallas).

 

we can sit here and talk smack back and forth till the cows come home. i cant wait until we see some playoff action! this is Romo's time to shine! and i'm totally prepared to eat crow if the Boys lose. but i dont think it will happen, at least not until the SB. we should own the NFC!

[donhaas 19]

folks keep saying this, and yet favre still sucks ass everytime he steps into texas stadium. so there just might be something to it - 8 or 9 times of no wins and sucking ass is one hell of a coicidence. and the score was 27-10 when favre got knocked out - the pack may have been down 40 if he had stayed in.

 

score was 20-10

Favre's arm got hit, causing that second interception... Up to that point he had one interception.... the same as what Romo should have had if the refs make the obvious call....

 

But no excuses... Favre was playing stupid...but I've seen him start out excited and stupid in a million games and settle down and have great games. It's not like there weren't huge holes on short to intermediate stuff... Aaron Freakin Rodgers was going up and down the field on that defense... This is Rodgers who has never played, never taken any snaps with the first string offense, doesn't have the knowledge of reading defenses and audibles that Favre has, was extremely rusty, etc.... Rodgers was going up and down.... The Detroit Freakin' Lions just went up and down the field on this defense.... It's not entirely inconceivable that Favre (having one of the best seasons of his career) could have settled down and turned it around like he's done many times before...

 

As a Dallas fan, you can rest on the fact that Favre would have laid an egg for the entire game... I expect a rabid fan to make prognostications based upon one quarter (versus Favre this entire season).... but let's just drop the whole rationale about what Favre did when deon sanders and charles haley and antonio freeman and don beebe were playing on why Dallas will win if they were to match up again . There is nothing special about this field besides the fact that a very young Favre was playing a very good 3-time NFL champion on that field over a decade ago.

 

 

If Favre plays well like he has all season, I expect it to be a great game... Our best pass rusher will be back and one of our best defensive players will be back... you will have sherrie glenn....

 

should be a good game if both teams even make it...

[Cruzer 1,996]

What he did in 99 has nothing to do with what he can do today is the point.

The team around him is completely different.

The D is different, the WRs are different, the line is different, the coaches have changed...and so on.

what isn't different is what's between favre's ears though. call it what you want, deny it all you want - the fact is favre plays out of his character and sucks when he plays in texas stadium. the brett favre we saw in the first two quarters of this year's game looked like the same paniced brett favre of the 90's.

 

And actually, the score was 20-10.

technically, your correct. but dallas score on it's next possession so by the time the pack got the ball back (no matter who was qbing) the score was 27-10.

[BMoney 0]

I very simply asked why GB could not or should not beat them? Because you were the one with the nerve to question why someone thought GB could do it.

 

Where have I looked past Seattle, or whoever would come to GB in the playoffs?

Can't find it can you.

 

 

nah..i never said YOU were overlooking the seahawks..i just get the feeling that everyone is overlooking them...they are the team with the most playoff experience..of the nfc teams in it...

 

i know gb can win..without a doubt..im not debating that..im just voicing my reasons for why seattle COULD win...

 

id have been cool with favre doing what hasselbeck did...he took the bullet for the rest of the team that did nothing but drop balls all game..people forget that part

 

i dont have any issues with ryan...just was pointing out that punt yards are misleading when he kicks from the other teams 45 and puts it 8 yards into the endzone...its only a net of 25...kick the focker to the corner..thats all....

 

the green bay packer gazette really sucks..no idea about appleton..i would stick with the milwaukee journal...i LOVE theor sports..

 

you are probably right..my friends felt the same way at the time also..that sherman wouldnt have been fired..maybe it was wishful thinking on my part..he had some good regular seasons..but as a GM, he was killing the team(so i thought)....

 

if seattle DID lose..i would defintely pull for gb..just making that known...

[FlaHawker 24]

Packers are the most overrated team is the NFl

100% correct.

[FlaHawker 24]

Where have I looked past Seattle, or whoever would come to GB in the playoffs?

Can't find it can you.

It will be a beautiful thing to see the Seahawks beat in the 1st round of the playoffs.

If that's not looking past a team, I don't what is. But you'll spin it. Slowpuff pwned again

[Sho Nuff 720]

If that's not looking past a team, I don't what is. But you'll spin it. Slowpuff pwned again

 

That I think they may get beat in the first round is not looking past them...its thinking the packers will never have to look to them at all.

 

FlaHawker...pulling quotes out of context and making up crap again...but you are right...you don't know what looking past is.

[Sho Nuff 720]

i dont have any issues with ryan...just was pointing out that punt yards are misleading when he kicks from the other teams 45 and puts it 8 yards into the endzone...its only a net of 25...kick the focker to the corner..thats all....

 

His net average is higher than Plack's as well. (36.8 to 34.3)

He only has 11 TBs...to Plack's 6...so 5 more as you say of him punting from the other team's 45 and putting it 8 yards into the endzone.

[FlaHawker 24]

That I think they may get beat in the first round is not looking past them...its thinking the packers will never have to look to them at all.

 

FlaHawker...pulling quotes out of context and making up crap again...but you are right...you don't know what looking past is.

Spinning like a top...as usual.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Spinning like a top...as usual.

 

Having nothing of substance...as usual.

Nice use of a quote that is over a month old though...eventhough you still got it wrong.

[FlaHawker 24]

Having nothing of substance...as usual.

Nice use of a quote that is over a month old though...eventhough you still got it wrong.

[Sweetness_34 0]

Happy off-season fudgepacker fans

 

Bears sweep fudge packers

 

Fudge packers choke at home against Eli Manning led Giants despite all the mistakes by the Giants (fumble on int; block on TD run etc) and despite the refs not calling half the pass ints by the over-rated green gay defense

 

Oh what a fun night this was....oh, and the Bears owns your sorry azzes. Next year, you will be lucky to even make the playoffs when reality sets in

[Giants Fan 85]

I'm not joking, but the only guy I ever knew that liked the Packers was an openly gay dude. He was actually my direct boss at one point. I grew to hate him. Not because he was gay, but he would steal my ideas and blame his mistakes on me ... we were obviously on "other teams".

 

SO FOCK YOU TODD! I didn't hafta double check the focking photo credit! Just because you are my boss, doesn't make me a lightningrod for your mistakes!

 

Oh yeah ... and GIANTS WIN!

 

That's all. I feel better now.

[Sweetness_34 0]

I'm not joking, but the only guy I ever knew that liked the Packers was an openly gay dude. He was actually my direct boss at one point. I grew to hate him. Not because he was gay, but he would steal my ideas and blame his mistakes on me ... we were obviously on "other teams".

 

SO FOCK YOU TODD! I didn't hafta double check the focking photo credit! Just because you are my boss, doesn't make me a lightningrod for your mistakes!

 

Oh yeah ... and GIANTS WIN!

 

That's all. I feel better now.

 

What did you expect from fudgepacker fans? Didn't you see the idiots dressed up in focking hunting gear last night at the game....they must have not been told that there are no deers to hunt at lameblow field I guess....But the silence and boos were awesome at the end .... especially when betty fart threw that int .... no pressure from the Giants, one on one coverage on Driver and fart threw his customary season ending pick....

[Giants Fan 85]

Believe it or not .... I'd prefer to prove how right I was ... than to bust on GB.

 

Once again, they played a good game.

 

I even called that the Giants/Dallas game would be 14-14 at the half.

[cheeseboy 0]

Happy off-season fudgepacker fans

 

Bears sweep fudge packers

 

Fudge packers choke at home against Eli Manning led Giants despite all the mistakes by the Giants (fumble on int; block on TD run etc) and despite the refs not calling half the pass ints by the over-rated green gay defense

 

Oh what a fun night this was....oh, and the Bears owns your sorry azzes. Next year, you will be lucky to even make the playoffs when reality sets in

 

Of course the only way a Bear fan would have fun is watching a loss, you're so used to losing it seems like fun!

 

And way to man up and hide like a little girl for 4 weeks hoping your shame of a pathetic season wasn't there for us all to see. It's hillarious that a Bears fan, a win nothing ever Bears fan, a not even playing in January Bears fan has the stones to talk sh!t today...

 

Don't worry, there's a Charles Martin out there waiting for you too

 

And, the bad news is, all of your bitter tears don't wash away the pain of being the worst franchise in the NFL...and with the Lions being around, that's saying a lot!!

[The Hood 9]

Of course the only way a Bear fan would have fun is watching a loss, you're so used to losing it seems like fun!

 

And way to man up and hide like a little girl for 4 weeks hoping your shame of a pathetic season wasn't there for us all to see. It's hillarious that a Bears fan, a win nothing ever Bears fan, a not even playing in January Bears fan has the stones to talk sh!t today...

 

Don't worry, there's a Charles Martin out there waiting for you too

 

And, the bad news is, all of your bitter tears don't wash away the pain of being the worst franchise in the NFL...and with the Lions being around, that's saying a lot!!

Did all this crying help wash away another Favre choke job?

[Guest ramrock11]

Did all this crying help wash away another Favre choke job?

 

Well said

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Sweetness remembered that regardless of their win against the Packers, they still cant get into the playoffs, still dont have a QB, and still have one of the most overrated and pathetic defensive units in the league. "But we've got Devin Hester!!!" ...and as great as he is, not even he can return 5 kicks for TDs in one game, which is about what that pathetic team needs. The Dolphins beat the Ravens last week, so until it happens in the playoffs, a win is a win, and when you dont have very many, it'd be wise to not draw attention to yourself.

Oh, and dont use injuries, etc as an excuse. The Colts have more talent injured than the Bears have on their entire roster. Amazing what having a QB will do.

 

I love it....You know how long its been since the losing team of the superbowl has been in the playoffs the next year???

We had alot of injuries this year, and to call that Defense pathetic??? you must be drinking some moonshine....id like to know what your fav team is so i can point out countless number of times our defense stomped you....

 

FYI, no one can return 5 kicks, and let me know whens the last time the bears were down by 5 scores...please...

THE GROSSMAN SAGA IS NOT OVER FOLKS....he will be back

I cant wait till next year when the bears own the NFC and the NFL....cause im going to have a great time!

 

Next year no more jinx= Begining of next dynasty!

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Bears fan's have no room to criticize any team that made the playoffs this year. I hope you enjoyed your Superbowl run last year because it's back to another 5 years or so of Suck City. You'll be envying the Lions.

 

Hopefully Hester isn't under contract for too long, he is such wasted talent.

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Bears fan's have no room to criticize any team that made the playoffs this year. I hope you enjoyed your Superbowl run last year because it's back to another 5 years or so of Suck City. You'll be envying the Lions.

 

Hopefully Hester isn't under contract for too long, he is such wasted talent.

 

I GUARENTEE that it will be less then 5 years for the bears to once again make the super bowl....this team has a sh!tload of talent, and some great young players emerging out of the woodwork

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Of course the only way a Bear fan would have fun is watching a loss, you're so used to losing it seems like fun!

 

And way to man up and hide like a little girl for 4 weeks hoping your shame of a pathetic season wasn't there for us all to see. It's hillarious that a Bears fan, a win nothing ever Bears fan, a not even playing in January Bears fan has the stones to talk sh!t today...

 

Don't worry, there's a Charles Martin out there waiting for you too

 

And, the bad news is, all of your bitter tears don't wash away the pain of being the worst franchise in the NFL...and with the Lions being around, that's saying a lot!!

 

Your crazy if you REALLY beilive the Bears are the worst franchise in the NFL....Dont try and go to far now....

 

 

Also thats not true, i didnt enjoy watching a loss....i enjoyed watching a win...2 times by the Bears and once BY THE GIANTS WOOOOOT GO BEARS

[philmckracken 3]

I GUARENTEE that it will be less then 5 years for the bears to once again make the super bowl....this team has a sh!tload of talent, and some great young players emerging out of the woodwork

 

Actually, the bears don't have a shitload of talent. All they need is help at quarterback, running back, wide reciever, defensive back and saftey.

[Cuse9 131]

What a hilarious thread. I can't believe a Bears fan would want to rip on anyone after the season they had. Jesus, just take your lumps and go crawl back into the cave of shame and hope for a better year next year. Is this what it's like to be a Bears fan? Don't matter if you lose you can just jump other teams when they lose and your happy. Truely sad.

[swamp dog 0]

Actually, the bears don't have a shitload of talent. All they need is help at quarterback, running back, wide reciever, defensive back and saftey.

 

 

...and o-line and...

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Bears Talent:

 

Hester

Urlacher

Tommy Harris (oft-injured)

Mike Brown (ALWAYS hurt)

Olin Kreutz

Lance Briggs

 

That is all.

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Actually, the bears don't have a shitload of talent. All they need is help at quarterback, running back, wide reciever, defensive back and saftey.

I have to disagree, the QB postion would be fine with grossman if he had better protection, so i think the help is more needed on the line... The WR's could use a lil help, but they are far from the worst in the NFL... I duno wtf you are thinkning when you say we need DB help, Tillman and Vasher are both playmakers, We have Ricky Manning JR. in a BACKUP spot, and Mcbride is did fantastic this year. The safty spot is a lil bit weaker now that Brown cant stay heathy but Mcgowan and Manning have done great filling the shoes and will only get better.....your nuts dude

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

What a hilarious thread. I can't believe a Bears fan would want to rip on anyone after the season they had. Jesus, just take your lumps and go crawl back into the cave of shame and hope for a better year next year. Is this what it's like to be a Bears fan? Don't matter if you lose you can just jump other teams when they lose and your happy. Truely sad.

 

No, just when the packers lose....

 

Injuries killed us, wait till next year you will see

[swamp dog 0]

I have to disagree, the QB postion would be fine with grossman if he had better protection, so i think the help is more needed on the line... The WR's could use a lil help, but they are far from the worst in the NFL... I duno wtf you are thinkning when you say we need DB help, Tillman and Vasher are both playmakers, We have Ricky Manning JR. in a BACKUP spot, and Mcbride is did fantastic this year. The safty spot is a lil bit weaker now that Brown cant stay heathy but Mcgowan and Manning have done great filling the shoes and will only get better.....your nuts dude

 

ricky manning jr isn't anything special. every team in the nfl has ricky manning jrs on it. urlacher is a shell of his former self, briggs will be gone, the o-line's a mess, the qb position is a mess. reality check, aisle 9 please!

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Bears Talent:

 

Hester

Urlacher

Tommy Harris (oft-injured)

Mike Brown (ALWAYS hurt)

Olin Kreutz

Lance Briggs

 

That is all.

Hillenmeyer( one of the most under rated OLB in the NFL)

Jamar Williams (going to be great once Briggs is gone)

Ogunleye, Alex Brown, and Mark anderson (you crazy for not mentioning them)

Mark Bradley (is hurt alot yes, but one full heathly season and could be top notch, did great at end of season)

Charles Tillman

Nate Vasher

Bernard Berrian

 

 

the whole damn team are playmakers, a few key FA adds this offseason and a good draft....we will win our division again next year and probly be be in the SB again.

[Cuse9 131]

No, just when the packers lose....

 

Injuries killed us, wait till next year you will see

I realized injuries hurt (Mike Brown the biggest), but how can you rip on a team that had a great year and lost in the NFC championship? I like the Broncos, did I have any right/reason to rip on the Chargers? I don't see how you can rip on another team for losing in the championship game when your/our teams didn't even make the playoffs? Don't make sense?

 

However, I guess if the Packer fans did this to you guys last year after the Super Bowl then all is fair?

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

ricky manning jr isn't anything special. every team in the nfl has ricky manning jrs on it. urlacher is a shell of his former self, briggs will be gone, the o-line's a mess, the qb position is a mess. reality check, aisle 9 please!

 

Im aware the o-line is a mess, and with proper protection Grossman is a really good QB, and has one of the best deep balls in the NFL....

 

Hester is going to be the next Steve Smith in the passing game too, on top of returning kicks and punts, which he is 2 TDs away from being the best ever.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Grossman is a really good QB, and has one of the best deep balls in the NFL....

 

Credibility Lost.

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

I realized injuries hurt (Mike Brown the biggest), but how can you rip on a team that had a great year and lost in the NFC championship? I like the Broncos, did I have any right/reason to rip on the Chargers? I don't see how you can rip on another team for losing in the championship game when your/our teams didn't even make the playoffs? Don't make sense?

 

However, I guess if the Packer fans did this to you guys last year after the Super Bowl then all is fair?

 

I never ripped on the packers dude, I just extreamlley glad they didnt make it to the SB and win it....Some of your guys just dont understand the rivalry....

[Dont_Fook_Wit_me 0]

Credibility Lost.

 

 

How many FULL games have you actually watched him play....Im not talking about ESPN highlights....hey i may even be one of the only guys even in chicago that likes grossman, i just see alot of potential...and since there are NO QB's in FA that would be an upgrade from grossman so why not keep him and give him more protection.