Obama Dissected

[Chargersin08 0]

clarifying that the use of force is not authorized by the authorization...

....of the war in Iraq.

[BudBro 183]

....of the war in Iraq.

 

it was with regard to iran. he told his wife he was against the war in iraq, when she was the only one who knew him or cared what he thought.

[Chargersin08 0]

it was with regard to iran. he told his wife he was against the war in iraq, when she was the only one who knew him or cared what he thought.

reread. yes it's in regard to Iran, but it states that the authorization of the war in iraq does not authorize use of force in iran.

[BudBro 183]

reread. yes it's in regard to Iran, but it states that the authorization of the war in iraq does not authorize use of force in iran.

sorry, you're probably right. he has nothing of value to say or do for this country, so i sorta don't give much of a shiit about him. he's a commie ###### just like the people he models himself after.

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sorry, you're probably right. he has nothing of value to say or do for this country, so i sorta don't give much of a shiit about him. he's a commie ###### just like the people he models himself after.

what led you to this assertion? out of curiosity.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

what led you to this assertion? out of curiosity.

 

I don't think he is a Marxist, although his recent statements about religion are similar to Marx's statement of "Religion is the opiate of the masses".

His mentor while he was young was a communist : Link

 

Some highlights:

 

Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist.

 

It was in Chicago that Obama became a “community organizer” and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.

 

However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”

 

Not sure how accurate this all is, just did a google search really and the title of the article is "Is Obama a Marxist Mole"...so take that for what it's worth. Obviously the author is biased. And just because he has socialist connections doesn't mean he's a socialist. Interesting read, but again not too sure about it.

[wiffleball 4,797]

I don't think he is a Marxist, although his recent statements about religion are similar to Marx's statement of "Religion is the opiate of the masses".

His mentor while he was young was a communist : Link

 

Some highlights:

Not sure how accurate this all is, just did a google search really and the title of the article is "Is Obama a Marxist Mole"...so take that for what it's worth. Obviously the author is biased. And just because he has socialist connections doesn't mean he's a socialist. Interesting read, but again not too sure about it.

 

FWIW, in his first book "Wet Dreams From My Father", he specifically talks about seeking out the most radical elements on campus - including militant Marxists to become part of his "tribe".

 

 

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students, the foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."

 

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out, many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs."

 

"(I)t remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

 

Obama wrote frankly about how he blamed "white people – some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."

 

His words. Really want this guy running the country??

[kpbuckeye 3]

I'm sorry, I have yet to receive this E-mail cuz I don't have fucktard friends.

 

I would have thought that common sense would have given in away, how its written in all caps, the structure, etc.

judging from your pissy school girl rants, i'm guessing you have no friends. I guess you always have 'hope' to fall back on. good luck with that.

[Ravens 03 0]

So in conclusion, is Obama a racist, a marxist, a commie, or just a typical Liberal politician?

 

[BudBro 183]

So in conclusion, is Obama a racist, a marxist, a commie, or just a typical Liberal politician?

 

yes

[Savage Beast 1]

So in conclusion, is Obama a racist, a marxist, a commie, or just a typical Liberal politician?

 

 

All of thee above.

[Chargersin08 0]

FWIW, in his first book "Wet Dreams From My Father", he specifically talks about seeking out the most radical elements on campus - including militant Marxists to become part of his "tribe".

His words. Really want this guy running the country??

yes.

 

 

btw, Marxism is different than Communism.

[BudBro 183]

btw, Marxism is different than Communism.

 

they are the same, in that neither works. if you feel the need to expound upon your knowledge of the two and how they differ, have at it. i'd rather not have the wikipedia nonsense. if you're some sort of history expert or actually from a communist country, i'll listen. if you're doing it to help someone like me change my opinion of elitist barry and his racist wife and his marxist mentor and his separatist preacher and his terrorist friends, it's prolly not going work. mccain is moderate enough for the libs, and tends to work with both parties equally. he'll be fine as president.

[Chargersin08 0]

So in conclusion, is Obama a racist, a marxist, a commie, or just a typical Liberal politician?

 

You people don't even know what you're talking about. You feed on all of the stupid lies about Obama and it's clear that you have never taken the time to study politics with an objective mind. None of you really understands communism, you just know that it's bad because the anti-communism era in the US.

 

You can't be a communist and be racist.

[kpbuckeye 3]

You people don't even know what you're talking about. You feed on all of the stupid lies about Obama and it's clear that you have never taken the time to study politics with an objective mind. None of you really understands communism, you just know that it's bad because the anti-communism era in the US.

 

You can't be a communist and be racist.

 

 

wow, just wow.

[Chargersin08 0]

wow, just wow.

I know, right?

[BudBro 183]

You can't be a communist and be racist.

 

why can't one be a communist and a racist (keeping in mind, racist means judgemental against people of a different race, not just blacks)?

[gocolts 300]

You people don't even know what you're talking about. You feed on all of the stupid lies about Obama and it's clear that you have never taken the time to study politics with an objective mind. None of you really understands communism, you just know that it's bad because the anti-communism era in the US.

 

You can't be a communist and be racist.

What stupid lies about Obama are you addressing???

 

Most of what I have seen people complain about when it comes to him is shiat straight out of his own mouth. You can only use the "I misspoke" so many times before people start to realize that maybe it is actually how the dude feels. They ran Trent Lott out of Washington for making a comment at some old man's birthday party. Obama ran Imus off the focking air waves for a focking joke. Yet some of the libs on here, mainly that woman Korban Dallas, act as if people are insane for believing what Obama admits in his greta speeches. Which is another thing. If Obama is so focking greta at speeches, why does he continue to insert his foot in his mouth with speeches??? I am not saying the guy can't read well, cause he does. He just keeps on stepping in it over and over.

[Chargersin08 0]

why can't one be a communist and a racist (keeping in mind, racist means judgemental against people of a different race, not just blacks)?

Because a true communist society would be an egalitarian society.

[Chargersin08 0]

What stupid lies about Obama are you addressing???

 

Most of what I have seen people complain about when it comes to him is shiat straight out of his own mouth. You can only use the "I misspoke" so many times before people start to realize that maybe it is actually how the dude feels. They ran Trent Lott out of Washington for making a comment at some old man's birthday party. Obama ran Imus off the focking air waves for a focking joke. Yet some of the libs on here, mainly that woman Korban Dallas, act as if people are insane for believing what Obama admits in his greta speeches. Which is another thing. If Obama is so focking greta at speeches, why does he continue to insert his foot in his mouth with speeches??? I am not saying the guy can't read well, cause he does. He just keeps on stepping in it over and over.

Read the first post in this topic for some of the stupid lies I'm addressing.

[mighty_thor 115]

FWIW, in his first book "Wet Dreams From My Father", he specifically talks about seeking out the most radical elements on campus - including militant Marxists to become part of his "tribe".

His words. Really want this guy running the country??

 

I don't want a guy who expanded his mind during his college years. I'd rather have another stupid president like the one we have now.

How is this for a resume? John McCain's class rank was 894/899! Daddy could pull some strings to get him in to Annapolis but he couldn't do his homework.

[BudBro 183]

Because a true communist society would be an egalitarian society.

ok, your premise was that one can't be a communist and racist. then you changed it to a society can't be communist and egalitarian, and now i have lay out the two and compare if a communist can be a racist, which is what you first said can't happen.

 

Egalitarian doctrines tend to express the idea that all human persons are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.

 

Communism has ten essential planks:

 

Abolition of Private Property.

Heavy Progressive Income Tax.

Abolition of Rights of Inheritance.

Confiscation of Property Rights.

Central Bank.

Government Ownership of Communication and Transportation.

Government Ownership of Factories and Agriculture.

Government Control of Labor.

Corporate Farms and Regional Planning.

Government Control of Education.

 

communism has to do with property and how it is controlled, and egalitarianism is a philosophy or idea, like a religion, in essence. neither has anything to do with the other. i would guess that a person could want the state to nationalize all private property, and yet still have judgements regarding people based upon their race. it's also clear that most communist pigs feel they are more equal than other pigs and animals, to take a description from a famous book, making them not egalitarian even within the same race. the college professors we all had to pay to listen to are generally full of horseshiit. it's alright to let all that drivel ooze out of your brain. you won't need it for anything more than to annoy people, and your wife, at parties.

[BudBro 183]

I don't want a guy who expanded his mind during his college years. I'd rather have another stupid president like the one we have now.

How is this for a resume? John McCain's class rank was 894/899! Daddy could pull some strings to get him in to Annapolis but he couldn't do his homework.

the current president is an ivy leaguer also.

[gocolts 300]

Read the first post in this topic for some of the stupid lies I'm addressing.

LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:

You don't.

 

HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN "FAMILY".

Oh my god, black?!? His father's religious affiliation is of no bearing; he saw his pops I think a total of 1 time after he was 2 years old.

No lie here. You just say it shouldn't matter.

 

HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHEIST, WHITE- WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?

His mother is dead (great job doing your homework), his grandfather is also dead, but here's a picture of his WHITE grandmother with him at his wedding

No lie here. The pics of the white side of his family are rarely if ever displayed on the news outlets.

 

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND THE FATHER WENT BACK TO HIS OTHER FAMILY IN KENYA.

ok, so it seems his father was a piece of ######.

No lie here.

 

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL.

It was only a "Muslim" school because the majority of students that attended there where Muslim. He also attended Catholic schools there. CNN went there and reported on what the schools he attended are really like, go read it:

No lie here. You said it was a muslim school yourself.

 

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?

His grandparents were hard workers. His grandma was born into a white collar family and she worked her way up in various banks, eventually becoming vice president of a bank in Hawaii.

No lie here. Ravens just asks a question of how. Your explanation is pretty lacking.

 

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?

He's written 2 best-sellers, $1.4 mill house isn't that big of a deal.

No lie here. Again just a question of how. It is easy to see now that we know he made like 4 million last year. Not bad for a once elected US senator.

 

HE "WORKED" AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO-HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES.

Working in the Senate is not a productive job?

No lie here. And no, being a career politician is not a productive job. Just look at all the legislation he has got through since he became a US senator.

 

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.

Your point? Everyone has to start from somewhere.

No lie here. He has won 1 election to the US senate and almost immediately started his POTUS run. Keep in mind he himself said he was a big believer in knowing what your doing before running for POTUS.

 

HE IS PROUD OF HIS "AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A "CULTURAL" GENE. WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?

What do you want him to say, "white power?" Yes he has embraced the fact that he's part black, but he acts white and he caters to white people.

No lie here. Nobody said he should say white power. It seems like the only time he brings up his white side of the family is so he can throw them under the bus.

 

HE GOES TO AN "AFROCENTRIC" CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH

hahahahahaha. a church that hates whites, but yet has white members. doh.gif

No lie here. After hearing what has been going on in there this can't really be disputed.

 

HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!

Why would that be his job? Bush never went and confronted them. Bush led a war based on fallacies and got the leader of another country executed. Would he have been that brave if he knew that Iraq had WMDs?

No lie here. Just a statement/question. You just went the old Bush is bad route here.

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.

I think the hope is that he hopes that the average voter is not a gullible dumbshit like you.

No lie here. Just a comment you didn't even attempt to touch.

 

Stupid lies huh??? You have not shown any lies whatsoever. This is why it is getting border line ridiculous with Obama supporters. Hopefully the Dems will learn this year that you can't anoint someone to POTUS before we know enough about them. The guy seemed decent in the beginning, as far is wasn't horrifying if he got in. The last few months we have learned enough about him that is down right scary, and the GOP hasn't even got started yet.

 

So again, what "Stupid lies" are you talking about???

[Me_2006 14]

You people don't even know what you're talking about. You feed on all of the stupid lies about Obama and it's clear that you have never taken the time to study politics with an objective mind. None of you really understands communism, you just know that it's bad because the anti-communism era in the US.

 

You can't be a communist and be racist.

and the fact that Stalin killed tens of millions of people only to establish an economic and political system that ravaged the entire area and eventually collapsed in on itself has nothing to do with it? Alright, call me McCarthy then I guess.

[Chargersin08 0]

ok, your premise was that one can't be a communist and racist. then you changed it to a society can't be communist and egalitarian, and now i have lay out the two and compare if a communist can be a racist, which is what you first said can't happen.

 

Egalitarian doctrines tend to express the idea that all human persons are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.

 

Communism has ten essential planks:

 

Abolition of Private Property.

Heavy Progressive Income Tax.

Abolition of Rights of Inheritance.

Confiscation of Property Rights.

Central Bank.

Government Ownership of Communication and Transportation.

Government Ownership of Factories and Agriculture.

Government Control of Labor.

Corporate Farms and Regional Planning.

Government Control of Education.

 

communism has to do with property and how it is controlled, and egalitarianism is a philosophy or idea, like a religion, in essence. neither has anything to do with the other. i would guess that a person could want the state to nationalize all private property, and yet still have judgements regarding people based upon their race. it's also clear that most communist pigs feel they are more equal than other pigs and animals, to take a description from a famous book, making them not egalitarian even within the same race. the college professors we all had to pay to listen to are generally full of horseshiit. it's alright to let all that drivel ooze out of your brain. you won't need it for anything more than to annoy people, and your wife, at parties.

I never said that communist societies couldn't be egalitarian, I said they would be egalitarian. The basic premise of communism is that everybody would be EQUAL in a true communist society, and you call these people "pigs"?

 

This is what I mean about not knowing what communism is. You think they want government control of everything, but they don't, they want there to be no government.

[Chargersin08 0]

and the fact that Stalin killed tens of millions of people only to establish an economic and political system that ravaged the entire area and eventually collapsed in on itself has nothing to do with it? Alright, call me McCarthy then I guess.

That wasn't communism, that was a totalitarian government that was led by a communist party, but nice try?

[Me_2006 14]

I never said that communist societies couldn't be egalitarian, I said they would be egalitarian. The basic premise of communism is that everybody would be EQUAL in a true communist society, and you call these people "pigs"?

 

This is what I mean about not knowing what communism is. You think they want government control of everything, but they don't, they want there to be no government.

But they establish a massive government to get there, along with mass killings, seizure of property and labor, etc. It's never gotten to the point of "no government" because the system simply doesn't work. It's a Utopian thought, not a practical application.

[Me_2006 14]

That wasn't communism, that was a totalitarian government that was led by a communist party, but nice try?

I really don't know where to start with this. Honestly. So they had the right idea and just screwed it up and had the wrong people trying to implement it? Or what on earth are you saying? Are you honestly arguing in favor of Communism?

[BudBro 183]

I never said that communist societies couldn't be egalitarian, I said they would be egalitarian. The basic premise of communism is that everybody would be EQUAL in a true communist society, and you call these people "pigs"?

 

This is what I mean about not knowing what communism is. You think they want government control of everything, but they don't, they want there to be no government.

little dude, i'm going to have to be done with you. i didn't just make up the tenants of communism...i just listed them for you. all of them say government control. trust me when i say, you'll grow out of this when you start earning a paycheck. thank god you're not old enough to actually vote for obama.

 

also, the pigs reference is to a book by george orwell called "animal farm." you might ask your high school literature teacher if it would be alright to do a book report on it. keep in mind while reading it that it is about communism, not just animals that can talk.

[Me_2006 14]

little dude, i'm going to have to be done with you. i didn't just make up the tenants of communism...i just listed them for you. all of them say government control. trust me when i say, you'll grow out of this when you start earning a paycheck. thank god you're not old enough to actually vote for obama.

 

also, the pigs reference is to a book by george orwell called "animal farm." you might ask your high school literature teacher if it would be alright to do a book report on it. keep in mind while reading it that it is about communism, not just animals that can talk.

One of the few actually funny condescending posts on this board. Funny thing is, he's probably older than I am. Although it's apparent age is more than a number of candles on a cake.

 

 

 

For the record, not an Obama voter. The talking animals convinced me otherwise.

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little dude, i'm going to have to be done with you. i didn't just make up the tenants of communism...i just listed them for you. all of them say government control. trust me when i say, you'll grow out of this when you start earning a paycheck. thank god you're not old enough to actually vote for obama.

 

also, the pigs reference is to a book by george orwell called "animal farm." you might ask your high school literature teacher if it would be alright to do a book report on it. keep in mind while reading it that it is about communism, not just animals that can talk.

your son is ugly

[remote controller 143]

Obama was literally dissected last night in the debate.

[BudBro 183]

your son is ugly

best you got, eh? you shouldn't disparage...you're probably close to his age and could play wingman for him. guys like you need guys like him to help garner you some attention. you have a couple of things in common with him...he owns a chargers jersey, and you both know the same about communism.

[Chargersin08 0]

Obama was literally dissected last night in the debate.

That wouldn't be a debate if he was literally dissected. It would be an autopsy.

 

Are you from Texas?

[Chargersin08 0]

best you got, eh? you shouldn't disparage...you're probably close to his age and could play wingman for him. guys like you need guys like him to help garner you some attention. you have a couple of things in common with him...he owns a chargers jersey, and you both know the same about communism.

So what your saying is your kid is smarter than you?

[Bishop82 61]

I never said that communist societies couldn't be egalitarian, I said they would be egalitarian. The basic premise of communism is that everybody would be EQUAL in a true communist society, and you call these people "pigs"?

 

This is what I mean about not knowing what communism is. You think they want government control of everything, but they don't, they want there to be no government.

 

[remote controller 143]

That wouldn't be a debate if he was literally dissected. It would be an autopsy.

 

Are you from Texas?

This might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted????

[Me_2006 14]

So can we agree he has no focking clue what he's talking about?

 

 

 

 

I'm still waiting on replies to my posts Re: communism btw.

[Rattlesnake 0]

Obama was literally dissected last night in the debate.

 

 

Stephanopoulos did a nice job delivering the questions given to him by Hannity and the former President. I agree. Too bad that the debate had nothing to do with any issues that even remotely matter.