Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Fantasy King 4.12 Derek Anderson, QB CLE 9.01 Jake Delhomme, QB CAR 1.01 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB SDC 5.01 Julius Jones, RB SEA 7.01 Matt Forte, RB CHI 10.12 Ricky Williams, RB MIA 2.12 TJ Houshmanzadeh, WR CIN 3.01 Marques Colston, WR NOS 6.12 Tony Gonzalez, WR/TE KCC 8.12 Donte Stallworth, WR CLE 11.01 Bryant Johnson, WR SFO As kindly as I can put it, I just don't like much about this team. Our rankings are clearly pretty different from one another. You consistently helped me by taking a guy at a position I was about to take, but someone much further down my rankings. Other than Tomlinson, I remember consistently thinking that there were usually 3-5 guys at a position that I'd have rather had at each pick. Honestly it's not a bad team, pretty well rounded, though I see very little upside unless LaDainian runs wild again. The picks I liked most were Delhomme and especially Ricky Williams. The one I liked least was Derek Anderson, though I understand it. In a no-trade mock, you were 22 picks away from going again, so if you wanted a top QB, it was then or never. You stuck to your guns with your next best, and while I don't have him at all that high, I can't fault that. I like the direction you went with this team overall, pretty well balanced. I'm a little concerned with the weak RB depth with a trio of questionably RBBC guys fighting for RB2. I like them, but it's a tough place to be at. So it goes in today's fantasy world though. Vikings4ever 3.02 Tony Romo, QB DAL 11.02 Aaron Rodgers, QB GBP 1.02 Adrian Peterson, RB MIN 2.11 Maurice Jones-Drew, RB JAX 7.02 Rashard Mendenhall, RB PIT 9.02 Justin Fargas, RB OAK 4.11 Roy Williams, WR DET 5.02 Greg Jennings, WR GBP 6.11 Chris Chambers, WR SDC 8.11 Chris Cooley, WR/TE WAS 10.11 Vincent Jackson, WR SDC 12.11 DJ Hackett, WR CAR I tend to always like the mock team you come up with, and I like this one a fair amount as well. Love the QB combo as well as where you got them, the strength of this team. Pretty strong 1-2 RB punch even if I wouldn't take MJD that high, though I'd be concerned about the depth thereafter, especially with ADP's injury concerns. I'm not a big handcuffer, but I think you'd have been much better off with Taylor at 7.2 personally, as good as he's been the past few years when ADP doesnt play. He's one handcuff I'd make sure to get, even if 7.2 seemed pretty high. I like that you went WR three times straight from 4-6. I think that's the play with a RB/RB/QB start. I don't have that trio ranked particularly high, but I like the combination. Lots of upside, lots of talent, plenty of past success. Overall, like this team a lot. robb 7.03 Jay Cutler, QB DEN 10.10 Trent Edwards, QB BUF 1.03 Steven Jackson, RB STL 4.10 Rudi Johnson, RB CIN 6.10 Cedric Benson, RB CHI 9.03 Felix Jones, RB DAL 2.10 Andre Johnson, WR HOU 3.03 Steve Smith, WR CAR 5.03 Lee Evans, WR BUF 8.10 Vernon Davis, WR/TE SFO 11.03 Sidney Rice, WR MIN 12.10 Demetrius Williams, WR BAL Wow. This is pretty close to the team I would've expected to end up with, other than your 5 and 6 picks. Sheesh. I loved the Cutler pick, the Andre pick, and especially the Smith pick. I thought Rudi was a great pick. I loved the Vernon Davis pick. I feel like you were drafting off of my spreadsheet. I'm done with this. Love the team. Da Bomb 8.09 Matt Leinart, QB ARI 10.09 Jon Kitna, QB DET 11.04 Alex Smith, QB SFO 1.04 Brian Westbrook, RB PHI 5.04 LenDale White, RB TEN 7.04 Ahman Green, RB GBP 9.04 Michael Pittman, RB DEN 2.09 Larry Fitzgerald, WR ARI 3.04 Brandon Marshall, WR DEN 4.09 Calvin Johnson, WR DET 6.09 Donald Driver, WR GBP 12.09 Todd Heap, WR/TE BAL Honestly, don't love this team that much, but I'm also not sure what I should've done differently. Just kept getting killed by robb time after time. Even though my rankings have them pretty close, I'd love Smith instead of Marshall one pick away. I do love my WR corps, but I'd be expecting to trade Marshall as soon as he shows healthy, to upgrade RB and/or QB. I'd be quite happy with Driver and Heap as my 3 and 4 guys. The biggest mistake I made on this team was waiting too long on QB. I simply estimated guys' worth wrong and kept waiting half a round too long for guys I liked, and then it cost me in the late rounds as I was playing pickup. I wonder how I'd like the team differently if I had taken a RB at 3.3. But I'm not sure who it would've been, probably Thomas Jones, and I'd have gotten a ton of crap for that anyhow. Bottom line, this is a team with a RB and lots of WRs I love but work to do at QB and RB2. I would have been better off stabilizing one of these spots so I could only keep one area to work on. I think 3.3 particularly hurt me having missed on Romo and Smith back to back before me. Alas. remote controller 4.08 Drew Brees, QB NOS 10.08 Jason Campbell, QB WAS 1.05 Joseph Addai, RB IND 3.05 Edgerrin James, RB ARI 6.08 DeAngelo Williams, RB CAR 8.08 Chris Johnson, RB TEN 12.08 Pierre Thomas, RB NOS 2.08 Braylon Edwards, WR CLE 5.05 Dwayne Bowe, WR KCC 7.05 Kevin Curtis, WR PHI 9.05 Dallas Clark, WR/TE IND 11.05 Reggie Williams, WR JAX Not too much to add here as you already know what I think. Year to year, we never seem to see eye to eye on many players. I thought you took Edge too early and could've got a similar back at 4.8 or 5.5, and it cost your WR corps dearly. I see this as a very weak group, so Brees and Addai would have to consistently have huge weeks to make up ground. I liked Brees where you took him, and Addai and Edwards were good picks as well. It was a solid start, just didn't like the players from there out. Jetdoc 6.07 Donovan McNabb, QB PHI 10.07 Vince Young, QB TEN 2.07 Reggie Bush, RB NOS 3.06 Ronnie Brown, RB MIA 4.07 Thomas Jones, RB NYJ 11.06 Leon Washington, RB NYJ 1.06 Randy Moss, WR NEP 5.06 Roddy White, WR ATL 7.06 Jerricho Cotchery, WR NYJ 8.07 Joey Galloway, WR TBB 9.06 Santana Moss, WR WAS 12.07 Darrell Jackson, WR DEN Really interesting team. My first instinct was wow, you can never go RB 2-3-4 anymore these days, but I think you actually pulled it off pretty well. I loved both McNabb and VY where you took them, just not sure I like them together. You have two guys bound to miss several games, so not sure what happens if they align poorly. Back to the RBs... I wouldn't take Bush that high but can't fault you for doing so, and Thomas Jones was a huge steal imo. I personally think Ronnie Brown that high is a wasted pick, but I can tell I'm pretty alone on that. I do like that with those 3 high RB picks, you were able to just load up on WR possibilities and I think your vet love did you well. You got all the upside you need at RB and QB, so getting safe producers in Cotch, Joey, Moss worked out great. I can't say I'd have taken Moss at 1.6, but I have no idea who I would take that high. No man's land for sure. You had a tough spot and did some unique things. I think it actually worked quite well. Fumbleweed 1.07 Tom Brady, QB NEP 6.06 Carson Palmer, QB CIN 3.07 Laurence Maroney, RB NEP 4.06 Earnest Graham, RB TBB 8.06 Selvin Young, RB DEN 9.07 Chris Brown, RB HOU 10.06 Ryan Torain, RB DEN 2.06 Terrell Owens, WR DAL 5.07 Jason Witten, WR/TE DAL 7.07 Laverneous Coles, WR NYJ 11.07 Isaac Bruce, WR SFO 12.06 Jabar Gaffney, WR NEP Well. As usual, you have a very different draft plan than any route I would go. Interestingly enough, I actually thought the Palmer pick was solid, a very good value where you got him, and actually good trade bait. That being said, I think you're going to need it. You got potentially lucky with Selvin Young if that works out, but otherwise this is a very thin RB corps with one guy who may not start and the other who has never stayed healthy. That would trouble. Actually there's one thing with this team that I just can't get over -- the double dipping, and twice. I just can't see that I'd want both Brady and Maroney, or especially that I'd want both TO and Witten. I'm not sure though. Maybe it works out that one of them always has a big week. But that also probably means the other is average at best, and that seems to leave very average weeks. Then again, there can't be any worse teams to have combos from than the Pats and Cowboys. I'd be interested to see whether you planned on these combos. I liked the Bruce and Brown picks late. kutulu 8.05 David Garrard, QB JAX 1.08 Marshawn Lynch, RB BUF 2.05 Jamal Lewis, RB CLE 5.08 Jonathan Stewart, RB CAR 6.05 Kevin Smith, RB DET 10.05 Ahmad Bradshaw, RB NYG 11.08 Ray Rice, RB BAL 12.05 Sammy Morris, RB NEP 3.08 Plaxico Burress, WR NYG 4.05 Wes Welker, WR NEP 7.08 Bobby Engram, WR SEA 9.08 Jerry Porter, WR JAX Holy RBs batman. I know it's the jetdoc mock, but wow, 7 has to be a record. I don't know what you were doing here, I guess trying to pick up a crapload of trade bait. I hope it works because in the process, you hurt yourself elsewhere. I like Garrard a lot, but no backup? And your WR crew leaves something to be desired too. I'm quite confused. Lynch and Lewis are probably one of the best 1-2 RB punches in the game. If anyone could've overlooked RB until the 6th or 7th, this would have been the team. Stewart and Smith were good enough picks when you got them, but I feel like you'd have to trade them to help yourself at QB and WR both. Interesting strategy, I have to assume that's what it is. Shane Falco 2.04 Peyton Manning, QB IND 10.04 Matt Schaub, QB HOU 1.09 Marion Barber III, RB DAL 3.09 Willie Parker, RB PIT 4.04 Darren McFadden, RB OAK 9.09 Deuce McAllister, RB NOS 12.04 Kenny Watson, RB CIN 5.09 Marvin Harrison, WR IND 6.04 Hines Ward, WR PIT 7.09 Javon Walker, WR OAK 8.04 Nate Burleson, WR SEA 11.09 Ted Ginn, WR MIA Really like this team overall. Manning's a strong pick where you got him, and I love the RBs. Parker and McFadden is a great combo to take there, and Deuce a great late pickup too. You got a potentially huge steal in Harrison, especially with Manning aleady in tow, and a chance to carry an otherwise weak-ish WR group. I'm not a big fan of Ward or Walker at this stage of their career but liked the Burleson pickup. If two of the three past-their-prime guys hit, or even one of them hits big, this would be a very tough team to beat. Great job. NAn 5.10 Matt Hasslebeck, QB SEA 11.10 Jeff Garcia, QB TBB 1.10 Clinton Portis, RB WAS 2.03 Ryan Grant, RB GBP 6.03 Fred Taylor, RB JAX 9.10 Jerrious Norwood, RB ATL 12.03 Ladell Betts, RB WAS 3.10 Torry Holt, WR STL 4.03 Santonio Holmes, WR PIT 7.10 Bernard Berrian, WR MIN 8.03 Anthony Gonzalez, WR IND 10.03 Patrick Crayton, WR DAL Pretty good team overall, though I like the WRs the least. Hass and Grant wouldn't have been my top choices where you got them, but can't fault them too much. I really like the look your RBs ended up with, especially nice getting Betts as late as you did. Taylor's a great RB3 and you've got a strong 1-2 punch if you're right about Grant. Portis would've been my pick at #6 I think. Loved the Holt pick, one of the steals of the draft. Don't care for the rest of the WRs though. I like Santonio but that seems almost a round too high. Fair enough though. The real weakness here is WR3 imo, as I don't feel you got someone you can start right away, though plenty of upside. Maybe one of the three hits. If so, this will be a very strong team. It already is. JScott 6.02 Ben Rothlisberger, QB PIT 7.11 Marc Bulger, QB STL 1.11 Frank Gore, RB SFO 3.11 Brandon Jacobs, RB NYG 4.02 Michael Turner, RB ATL 8.02 Cadillac Williams, RB TBB 12.02 DeShaun Foster, RB SFO 2.02 Reggie Wayne, WR IND 5.11 Antonio Gates, WR/TE SDC 9.11 Derrick Mason, WR BAL 10.02 Deion Branch, WR SEA 11.11 Roydell Williams, WR TEN Interesting team to me as you have unusually strong depth at both QB and RB. I thought it was going to cost you at WR, and it did, but perhaps not as much as it could have. That QB duo is so strong that, if you play the right matchups, you could well end up with as good of production as if you'd taken Manning or Romo. And again with the top 3 RBs, could be a deadly trio, plus Caddy to boot. Of course the WR depth is very weak imo. You got lucky with Mason that late and even so, he's nothing but a solid WR3 at this point (no problem with that at 9.11). With Gates ailing, and Branch as well, I'd only be worried that you may be stuck starting Roydell Williams early in the season. If that's true, you could be forced into a panic move. But if Gates is healthy and even 80% as good as usual, the rest of the team is so strong that the WR3 spot simply won't matter. Great job. Clash of the Titans 7.12 Eli Manning, QB NYG 10.01 Philip Rivers, QB SDC 1.12 Larry Johnson, RB KCC 2.01 Willis McGahee, RB BAL 6.01 Travis Henry, RB DEN 8.01 Chester Taylor, RB MIN 12.01 Kevin Jones, RB DET 3.12 Chad Johnson, WR CIN 4.01 Anquan Boldin, WR ARI 5.12 Kellen Winslow Jr, WR/TE CLE 9.12 Reggie Brown, WR PHI 11.12 Ronald Curry, WR OAK Loved the Chad Johnson pick, and Boldin was a good pick too before a dropoff there. But I disliked the RB picks just as much. I can't really argue with when you took any of them, just don't care for any of them, especially the combo. Very solid QB duo for as late as you got them, two guys playing with a lot of talent and thus with upside. Liked the Winslow and Reggie picks. Really, for as much as I didn't like some of the picks, it's actually a pretty good team overall with the combo. I don't see a real weak spot, except that you got screwed by Travis Henry. I certainly would've taken LJ's backup over Kevin Jones, but that's ticky tack. As much as any team in the draft, this team has no weak spot, and that is saying something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 4, 2008 I thought you took Edge too early and could've got a similar back at 4.8 or 5.5, and it cost your WR corps dearly. Explain why the #10 back of 2007, who amassed over 1440 yards, isn't a valid #2. Then name the back who is going to achieve that this year from 4.8 or 5.5. You justified White because he was one of the few backs that carried the ball 300 times. Edge had 324. White doesn't come close to a #2 Rb canidate if Edge isn't!!! Explain! I would take your 5 receivers over mine, but your rb corp is really poor. The trade off is clear. Edge is a vastly superior #2 rb to White by any measurement available to man. Brees is the other factor that hits the receiving corp, but I like what Bowe has to offer as a #2 and Curtis can only improve on his numbers his first year with McNabb. Your #1 Qb might not even start, thus you have 3. 4.10 Rudi Johnson, RB CIN 5.01 Julius Jones, RB SEA 5.04 LenDale White, RB TEN 5.08 Jonathan Stewart, RB CAR 6.01 Travis Henry, RB DEN 6.03 Fred Taylor, RB JAX Stewart is the only prayer in this group. You are right we never agree on players, but that does not mean that we default to what Bomb says! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted June 4, 2008 kutulu 8.05 David Garrard, QB JAX 1.08 Marshawn Lynch, RB BUF 2.05 Jamal Lewis, RB CLE 5.08 Jonathan Stewart, RB CAR 6.05 Kevin Smith, RB DET 10.05 Ahmad Bradshaw, RB NYG 11.08 Ray Rice, RB BAL 12.05 Sammy Morris, RB NEP 3.08 Plaxico Burress, WR NYG 4.05 Wes Welker, WR NEP 7.08 Bobby Engram, WR SEA 9.08 Jerry Porter, WR JAX Holy RBs batman. I know it's the jetdoc mock, but wow, 7 has to be a record. I don't know what you were doing here, I guess trying to pick up a crapload of trade bait. I hope it works because in the process, you hurt yourself elsewhere. I like Garrard a lot, but no backup? And your WR crew leaves something to be desired too. I'm quite confused. Lynch and Lewis are probably one of the best 1-2 RB punches in the game. If anyone could've overlooked RB until the 6th or 7th, this would have been the team. Stewart and Smith were good enough picks when you got them, but I feel like you'd have to trade them to help yourself at QB and WR both. Interesting strategy, I have to assume that's what it is. That's just the way my board fell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Explain why the #10 back of 2007, who amassed over 1440 yards, isn't a valid #2. Then name the back who is going to achieve that this year from 4.8 or 5.5. You justified White because he was one of the few backs that carried the ball 300 times. Edge had 324. White doesn't come close to a #2 Rb canidate if Edge isn't!!! Explain! I would take your 5 receivers over mine, but your rb corp is really poor. The trade off is clear. Edge is a vastly superior #2 rb to White by any measurement available to man. Brees is the other factor that hits the receiving corp, but I like what Bowe has to offer as a #2 and Curtis can only improve on his numbers his first year with McNabb. Your #1 Qb might not even start, thus you have 3. 4.10 Rudi Johnson, RB CIN 5.01 Julius Jones, RB SEA 5.04 LenDale White, RB TEN 5.08 Jonathan Stewart, RB CAR 6.01 Travis Henry, RB DEN 6.03 Fred Taylor, RB JAX Stewart is the only prayer in this group. You are right we never agree on players, but that does not mean that we default to what Bomb says! we've been over all this multiple times over. i think edge at this point of his career belongs right in that group of names you have posted. you disagree. ive not asked anyone to default what i say, just posted my opinion. i personally wouldnt trade my RB group for yours, regardless of where you took them. so be it. youre free to disagree, but please dont continue to make this personal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 4, 2008 Hell with it. Just try some tact just once Bomb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Why is the switch just off. You are totally discounting what he did last year, and that really isn't an explanation. You believe he did achieve 1440 yards last year right? You know he actually was the #10 fantasy rb last year right? Acknowledgment of those two things as truth's would go along way to formulating an arguement, and not a cop out. Try this: "You are right Remote, he did achieve that last year, but I don't feel he can repeat." You lack tact in any way shape or form. like i said, i'm not turning this into a personal battle. you take issue with everything i say. you've got all my thoughts on edgerrin james. if you want to know what he did last year, go back in time and join an 07 league. and while youre at it, go ahead and take a look at all my articles and crap where i have edge as one of my top 07 sleepers. we are done here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 545 Posted June 4, 2008 I'll look up Witten and Owens' games from last year to see how they scored in conjunction with one another. If the Maroney that played in December and January of last year is the Maroney of 2008, I can live with that double dip for sure. I'll have some analysis tomorrow hopefully. Thanks for the feedback, Bomb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 I'll look up Witten and Owens' games from last year to see how they scored in conjunction with one another. If the Maroney that played in December and January of last year is the Maroney of 2008, I can live with that double dip for sure. I'll have some analysis tomorrow hopefully. Thanks for the feedback, Bomb. did you plan these combos? im assuming no, its just where the value landed. i guess it would just make me uncomfortable to invest so much into any team, even teams that are that good. you automatically have two weeks where youve probably got no shot to win, with two top 5 picks on a bye each time. and then if theres ever another week where the pats or boys just stink up the joint, its probably even worse because now theyre actually in the lineup. dunno, like i said if theres any teams that you could pull it off with, its probably those two. its an interesting thought, the way it worked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 545 Posted June 4, 2008 did you plan these combos? im assuming no, its just where the value landed. i guess it would just make me uncomfortable to invest so much into any team, even teams that are that good. you automatically have two weeks where youve probably got no shot to win, with two top 5 picks on a bye each time. and then if theres ever another week where the pats or boys just stink up the joint, its probably even worse because now theyre actually in the lineup. dunno, like i said if theres any teams that you could pull it off with, its probably those two. its an interesting thought, the way it worked out. No, it wasn't planned, but I don't have much fear double-dipping into the skill position resources of the two best offenses in the NFL for 2007. Doesn't seem like much of a risk to me. As for Owens and Witten, they generally complemented each other well. Here were their fantasy points game by game from last year. Week One: Owens 20, Witten, 17 Week Two: Owens 15, Witten 2 Week Three: Owens 19, Witten 15 Week Four: Owens 3, Witten 13 Week Five: Owens 2, Witten 16 Week Six: Owens 12, Witten 4 Week Seven: Owens 16, Witten 8 Week Eight: Owens 28, Witten 13 Week Nine: Owens 29, Witten 1 Week Ten: Owens 46, Witten 6 Week Eleven: Owens 12, Witten 11 Week Twelve: Owens 26, Witten 6 Week Thirteen: Owens 2, Witten 24 Week Fourteen: Owens 3, Witten 11 Week Fifteen: Owens 10, Witten 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted June 4, 2008 Excellent feedback, Bombo. Some add-on commentary: Fantasy King - I think taking Anderson in the 4th really messed up his drafting strategy, and it shows in the depth he has at RB. Banking on JJones at RB2 without a decent backup is scary. V4E - Lots of potential at the RB2 position, but it would still scare me going into the season with MJD being your "go to guy", until Taylor bows out. Taking Romo very early kinda highlights this. robb - Excellent draft. Rudi at RB2 is the key to your season...if he returns to 2006 form, you're gold with your quality wideouts and the up-and-coming QB squad. Bomb - I simply hate your QB situation, but if you can pull off the QBBC matchups each week, you'll be in decent shape. WR's are simply outstanding, and RBBC at RB2 is serviceable. remote - Another very well rounded team. DeAngelo as RB3 is a bit scary, and your depth at WR is a bit lacking, but otherwise, a good group. Jetdoc - Other than Moss, no real superstud players. Some calculated risks at RB (with an offset with Jones), and very good depth at WR. Kind of a boring team. Fumble - definitely banking on either a Brady or Palmer trade for a RB, which makes this team very hard to judge. kutulu - One of my least favorite teams. The stable of RB's you drafted are nice, but you have serious problems at QB/WR. You have to be banking on one of your several RB gambles to pay off for a later trade. Shane Falco - I'd be in love with your team if it weren't for the serious lack of depth at WR. Banking on 3 starting wideouts with major questions coming into 2008 is just plain scary. NAn - the team with the biggest potential for downside, IMO. Your QB, RBs and wideouts all have serious questions, most of which have to go your way to have a good season. JScott - one of my favorite teams. Roth should be slinging it, a great RB1 coupled with bonafide candidates at RB2, and very well rounded WRs. I'd like a bit more quality depth at WR. Clash - the best draft, IMO. Two very solid RBs, a good mix at QB, and excellent WR's. I'm not sure if this a product of the position, but man - I'd like to have the 11th or 12th slot this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Jetdoc - Kind of a boring team. im as shocked as you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted June 4, 2008 kutulu - One of my least favorite teams. The stable of RB's you drafted are nice, but you have serious problems at QB/WR. You have to be banking on one of your several RB gambles to pay off for a later trade. I'm fine with Plax and Wes as my 1 and 2 WR. Myself, I don't feel I need WR depth and feel like I can always find a servicable 3rd WR somewhere (i.e. last year I picked up Wes after a draft but before the season started...worked out pretty decent). As far as Garrard, I mentioned how he ended last year and I think he is the most likely QB currently listed outside of most "lists" top 12 to end the 2008 in the top 10. And yes, I believe in stocking up on RBs. Feel they are much harder to find after the draft and if you hit on one or 2 they become either valuable trade currency for another position or they break into your starting lineup...either of which is a good thing. If this was an actual team, I would be looking for opportunities to trade down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted June 4, 2008 im as shocked as you are. Yeah, I don't think I've ever drafted a team where you or I said "wow". I guess my love for proven, undervalued and veteran players kinda puts me in that mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah, I don't think I've ever drafted a team where you or I said "wow". I guess my love for proven, undervalued and veteran players kinda puts me in that mode. just out of curiosity, if i may be blunt, how do you fare on average in fantasy leagues drafting this way? my guess is that it pretty consistently puts you in the middle to upper middle of leagues, but rarely at the top? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted June 4, 2008 just out of curiosity, if i may be blunt, how do you fare on average in fantasy leagues drafting this way? my guess is that it pretty consistently puts you in the middle to upper middle of leagues, but rarely at the top? In my three fantasy leagues (one dynasty, one keeper and one redraft), I'm always in the playoffs (I'd say at a 90%+ rate). I think that I'm at about a 10% clip in winning championships, which is pretty much the odds in a 12 team league. The combo of being in the playoffs and winning championships always puts me ahead money-wise. I don't trade very often, but am very active on the waiver wire (for example, last year I was able to snag Hines Ward early in the season of the wire when someone took a flashier up and comer). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bomb 0 Posted June 4, 2008 In my three fantasy leagues (one dynasty, one keeper and one redraft), I'm always in the playoffs (I'd say at a 90%+ rate). I think that I'm at about a 10% clip in winning championships, which is pretty much the odds in a 12 team league. The combo of being in the playoffs and winning championships always puts me ahead money-wise. I don't trade very often, but am very active on the waiver wire (for example, last year I was able to snag Hines Ward early in the season of the wire when someone took a flashier up and comer). cool, thats about what i figured. i used to take that style, and perhaps i would still if i was in a bunch of money leagues. but for me there are only two positions, winner and the other 11 chumps. it used to kill me if id ever miss the playoffs, which was extremely rare. but now it doesnt bother me, knowing id rather have gone all out to have a slim chance to win than just rode along and saw where my guys got me. just a different philosophy i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted June 4, 2008 Good stuff as always Bomb. We don't always agree, but your thoughts always put my own in perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyKing 4 Posted June 10, 2008 7.01 Matt Forte, RB CHI Clearly my team is now the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted June 11, 2008 7.01 Matt Forte, RB CHI Clearly my team is now the best. Did Forte get traded to an NFL Team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites